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wse 10-24-2015 08:30 AM

Owners of Sony VPL-VW665
 
Sony VPL-VW665ES / Sony VPL-VW520 ES

Sony 4K Home Theater ES Projector

Advanced SXRD panel technology delivers incredible 4K images with four times the resolution of

Full HD. You’ll experience rich colors, impressive


1800 lumens brightness and huge 300,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio — for
vibrant, detail-packed pictures with native 4K resolution that always look clear and sharp, even in day lit living rooms.

Native 4K resolution for immersive experience
HD to 4K upscaling turns your HD content into a 4K experience
High brightness and high contrast for vibrant images / 300,000:1 dynamic contrast
Support for High Dynamic Range (HDR) content
HDMI® 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 compatible for enjoying up-to-date 4K content services
Compact size and front exhaust for flexible installation
Powered 2.06 zoom and wide lens shift and lens memories
Built in RF 3D transmitter
More color, depth and realism with TRILUMINOS® color
6,000 hour long lasting lamp
Built-in auto calibration

Features

- Cinematic 4K clarity with four times the detail of Full HD
- SXRD® panel technology featured in our professional cinema projectors delivers native 4K (4096 x 2160) resolution images, with no artificial pixel enhancement. Every detail is clear and natural, without jagged edges or visible pixels.
- Very high brightness and contrast
With an impressive 1,800 lumens brightness and spectacular 300,000:1 dynamic contrast range, 4K images are clear with bright
highlights and rich, deep blacks — even in well-lit rooms.
- Smooth, fluid on-screen action
- Coupled with the panel’s super-fast response rate, Motionflow™ technology means you’ll see every detail with minimal blur — no matter how fast the action.
- TRILUMINOS™ Display for wider, more natural colors
Sony’s TRILUMINOS™ Display technology accurately reproduces a much broader range of colors than a standard projector system. You’ll see the difference with finely-reproduced tones and textures plus greater color purity, depth and realism.
- HDR Compatible
- Take full advantage of the latest content produced with HDR (High Dynamic Range) for extremely wide contrast with an even higher range of brightness levels.

Support for latest standards

The VPL-VW665ES can project content at up to 60 frames per second (fps) in 4K (at color signal YCbCr 4:2:0 / 8 bit) for even
smoother images with superior color and realism. Support for HDCP 2.2 lets you enjoy the latest 4K content services.

Reality Creation upscales movies to 4K
As well as projecting native 4K content, the VPL-VW665ES upscales your Full HD Blu-ray™ or DVD movie collection to 4K with

Reality Creation — Sony’s Super Resolution processing technology that enhances lower-resolution content, and even upscales 3D
movies to 4K resolution.

Compatible with ‘Mastered in 4K’ Blu-ray™


Enjoy a near-native 4K experience with discs ‘Mastered in 4K’. It’s as close as you can get to the 4K-pixel resolution and expanded
color range of the original.

Long-lasting lamp

Up to 6000 hours rated lamp operating life (in Low mode) means simpler maintenance, with fewer lamp swaps and reduced running costs.

Picture position memories

Memorizes up to five zoom lens positions for future viewing. Stored settings can be matched to a movie’s aspect ratio, including

16:9 and Cinemascope.


Flexible home installation with wide zoom and shift lens


The powered zoom lens with a 2.1x zoom ratio and wide lens shift range gives greater installation flexibility in any room size, even
with high ceilings.

Front-facing fan

With the fan exhaust positioned at the front of the projector, you don’t need to worry about wall clearance and room for air inhale/exhaust when installing. This helps maximize throw distance, for the biggest possible projected images.

Built-in auto calibration

Set-up is quick and easy: auto calibration ensures superb pictures without effort.

Industry standard RF 3D compatible

The projector’s built-in RF transmitter synchronizes with any RF 3Dglasses for wider coverage and greater stability, so there’s no need for an external transmitter.

3-year limited warranty


All Sony Elevated Standard (ES) projectors enjoy 3-year limited warranties.


15,000 dollars in the US

9,999 euros in Europe!

http://www.sonypremiumhome.com/proje...PL-VW665ES.php

http://www.sonypremiumhome.com/pdfs/..._SpecSheet.pdf

http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/product/vpl-vw520es/

wse 10-24-2015 08:37 AM

My question is do they still have plastic lens?

Seegs108 10-24-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wse (Post 38347633)
My question is do they still have plastic lens?

It's only the exit element that is plastic. But from the looks of it, yes, they're using the same lens from the 600ES/300ES.

wse 10-24-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Seegs108 (Post 38347697)
It's only the exit element that is plastic. But from the looks of it, yes, they're using the same lens from the 600ES/300ES.

Did you see it in real? If that's the case that is a real bummer! For $15,000 it should be glass!

DavidHir 10-24-2015 02:48 PM

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I'm really surprised it doesn't support P3.

cischico 10-25-2015 06:24 AM

I have the VW515 which is the VW665 equivalent for the Japanese market (I live in Japan). As mentioned above it looks identical to the 500ES model it replaced. The menu is Japanese only and the remote is in English. I used the calibration pro software to adjust the settings and all is good. Now I just need to find HDR content to make a comparison.

latreche34 10-25-2015 01:31 PM

What modes are available for 4:4:4 ?

billqs 10-25-2015 02:22 PM

Unless I missed it, the 665 doesn't even support the full HDMI 2.0 pipe at 18Ghz. 4k 60 is still in 4.2.0. It's almost an exact replica of the 500/600 but with a somewhat brighter-longer lasting bulb and better contrast numbers (which we can't put much stock in until the reviews verify it.) Won't be trading my 500 in any time soon as least not for a 665, it appears.

billqs 10-25-2015 02:26 PM

So, they really DID finally lock down the menu's language control to only Japanese for the local market there. Of course they wouldn't have to do that if they just wouldn't charge double the cost to the US market.

JeffR1 10-25-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by latreche34 (Post 38377577)
What modes are available for 4:4:4 ?

I think the only one that can do that is the 5000ES, the rest are still 4:2:0. (still HDMI 1.4a)
The HDR that's available is done through the brighter lamp and new iris and and I'm not even sure if that is new.

Seegs108 10-25-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffR1 (Post 38379017)
I think the only one that can do that is the 5000ES, the rest are still 4:2:0. (still HDMI 1.4a)
The HDR that's available is done through the brighter lamp and new iris and and I'm not even sure if that is new.

None of the Sony 4K models can do 4:4:4 chroma with 10 or 12 bit color. All of the Sony 4K models can do 2160/30p (and 24p) 8bit 4:4:4 and 2160/30p (and 24p) 8/10/12bit 4:2:2.

rak306 10-25-2015 03:30 PM

I am very disappointed with Sony this year. IMO, they should have just lowered the prices on the current models to $6k for the 350, and $10k for the 600. Then next year add P3 and 18 Gbps HDMI (at those same lowered prices). With low JVCs street prices (and Sony's tight control of prices), I don't see many going for the high end Sony's this year.

JeffR1 10-25-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Seegs108 (Post 38379721)
None of the Sony 4K models can do 4:4:4 chroma with 10 or 12 bit color. All of the Sony 4K models can do 2160/30p (and 24p) 8bit 4:4:4 and 2160/30p (and 24p) 8/10/12bit 4:2:2.

I'll save my 60K then... :rolleyes:

Seegs108 10-25-2015 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR1 (Post 38380929)
I'll save my 60K then... :rolleyes:

That's my fault. The one Sony unit that CAN do it is the $60,000 5000ES. The others can not.

billqs 10-25-2015 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seegs108 (Post 38381065)
That's my fault. The one Sony unit that CAN do it is the $60,000 5000ES. The others can not.

Grrr.... I know it's economics of scale but we're saying that it takes a $50,000 projector from Sony to do what $1999 Vizio flatscreen will do.

R Harkness 10-25-2015 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billqs (Post 38382705)
Grrr.... I know it's economics of scale but we're saying that it takes a $50,000 projector from Sony to do what $1999 Vizio flatscreen will do.

On the other hand, it takes a $130,000 Vizio Flatscreen to do what a $50,000 Sony projector will do.* ;)

http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-reference-series/



*(That is, reach projection-like image sizes).

Mike Garrett 10-25-2015 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seegs108 (Post 38379721)
None of the Sony 4K models can do 4:4:4 chroma with 10 or 12 bit color. All of the Sony 4K models can do 2160/30p (and 24p) 8bit 4:4:4 and 2160/30p (and 24p) 8/10/12bit 4:2:2.

Except for VW5000.

Seegs108 10-25-2015 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Garrett (Post 38383937)
Except for VW5000.

Check my next comment down. ;)

Mike Garrett 10-25-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seegs108 (Post 38383961)
Check my next comment down. ;)

Yeah, just saw that. Sorry, been traveling and now playing catch up.

billqs 10-25-2015 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Harkness (Post 38382873)
On the other hand, it takes a $130,000 Vizio Flatscreen to do what a $50,000 Sony projector will do.* ;)

http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-reference-series/

*(That is, reach projection-like image sizes).

I agree with you, and I'm still absolutely in love with the picture my 500ES puts out on my 133" diagonal screen. It's just an object lesson in scale and types of display that things that become commonplace on one type of display take forever to show up on another.

Although I do have to mention my brother picked a year old 4k LG 79" flatscreen floor demo originally $9999 for $2499. The electronic store wanted to replace the model with one that was curved. :rolleyes:

JeffR1 10-26-2015 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billqs (Post 38387881)
Although I do have to mention my brother picked a year old 4k LG 79" flatscreen floor demo originally $9999 for $2499. The electronic store wanted to replace the model with one that was curved. :rolleyes:

That's quite a jump, they must be loosing allot of money to go from almost 10 grand to less then 3000.00$ _ or the markup was really out of this world !
This would never happen with Sony's 4k projectors. :rolleyes:

Mike Garrett 10-26-2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR1 (Post 38390521)
That's quite a jump, they must be loosing allot of money to go from almost 10 grand to less then 3000.00$ _ or the markup was really out of this world !
This would never happen with Sony's 4k projectors. :rolleyes:

Street prices of TV's usually do not have much markup. Of course, that 10K was MSRP I am sure, but even then, cost was a lot higher than what your brother paid for it. I guess the main purpose of that set, was to draw people into the store and if they sold it, even better.

JeffR1 10-26-2015 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Garrett (Post 38407121)
Street prices of TV's usually do not have much markup. Of course, that 10K was MSRP I am sure, but even then, cost was a lot higher than what your brother paid for it. I guess the main purpose of that set, was to draw people into the store and if they sold it, even better.

My brother ???

Seegs108 10-26-2015 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR1 (Post 38407961)
My brother ???

He meant billqs's brother.

Mike Garrett 10-26-2015 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR1 (Post 38407961)
My brother ???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seegs108 (Post 38408065)
He meant billqs's brother.

Yep. Thanks for keeping me straight. :)

Seegs108 10-26-2015 03:54 PM

Mike's mind is like jello with all the pre-orders he's had to deal with in the last few days. :)

billqs 10-26-2015 09:25 PM

My brother got the deal. That was MSRP and I did find some internet prices for the set around $3500, so it's not quite as stupendous as it sounds (still many people did pay much closer to its MSRP when it came out.)

hrada 10-30-2015 12:10 PM

Throw
 
Newbie here so apologize in advance. Looking at purchasing new projector. I have a 21.5 ft throw. Also using a lens. Will the 665 work for me?
Thanks
H

Mike Garrett 10-30-2015 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrada (Post 38522081)
Newbie here so apologize in advance. Looking at purchasing new projector. I have a 21.5 ft throw. Also using a lens. Will the 665 work for me?
Thanks
H

Yes will probably work for 1080P, but you will need a way to do vertical stretch for 4K, since the VW665, nor VW1100 can do vertical stretch. You can buy one of the new 4K lumagen video Processors and that can handle 4K vertical stretch. Also other options. PM for more info, since outside the scope of this thread.

Added
You do not say what your current screen size is. Need to know that to answer the question for sure.

Craig Peer 10-30-2015 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrada (Post 38522081)
Newbie here so apologize in advance. Looking at purchasing new projector. I have a 21.5 ft throw. Also using a lens. Will the 665 work for me?
Thanks
H


Same lens as the VW600 - here is a lens calculator - http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sony...ulator-pro.htm


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