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What sub-sampling are you all outputting from your 4K player? Is there a rationale for something other than 4:2:0?

I'm sure this has been covered thoroughly. Thanks!

For HDMI 2.0, 4:2:0 is only valid at 4K60. There is not any 4:2:0 format that can be sent over HDMI for 4K24. Even if you set 4:2:0 in the player it will convert 4K24 4:2:0 source content to either 4K24 4:2:2 or 4K24 4:4:4 before sending the output to a display. The 4:2:0 setting in players is typically there as a 4K60 option.


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For HD, the RSx00 projectors are awesome. 4K & HDR are a different story. If you buy 4K discs, you will want a Panasonic UB820. The implementation of HDR is fundamentally different from anything you've experienced before and the RSx00 implementation is extremely poor.

I'd strongly suggest getting a UB820 as it has tone mapping which is different to all other 4K players (except the more expensive UB9000). It will handle the HDR information so the projector doesn't have to and is something the RSx00 projectors significantly benefit from with the correct configuration.

Also, you'll probably need new HDMI cables.

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Better yet - an htpc with madvr bests the ub820 in a big way. ive used both with my rs400 and madvr kills the 820.

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Better yet - an htpc with madvr bests the ub820 in a big way. ive used both with my rs400 and madvr kills the 820.
I'm interested in that MadVR box that is supposedly being developed. I'm not interested in tweaking settings all the time. For me, SDR2020 conversion on the 820 is aces...it looks great and is stupid simple. If the eventual MadVR box has a "set it and forget it" option, I'll look into it.
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I'm interested in that MadVR box that is supposedly being developed. I'm not interested in tweaking settings all the time. For me, SDR2020 conversion on the 820 is aces...it looks great and is stupid simple. If the eventual MadVR box has a "set it and forget it" option, I'll look into it.

I use the new version of madvr that does dynamic tone mapping. I really tweak nothing at all. I actually used your suggested settings with the ub820 (hoping for a brightness boost in hdr) and was surprised by the superiority of madvr. Tone mapping was similar but detail a big win for madvr.

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I'm interested in that MadVR box that is supposedly being developed. I'm not interested in tweaking settings all the time. For me, SDR2020 conversion on the 820 is aces...it looks great and is stupid simple. If the eventual MadVR box has a "set it and forget it" option, I'll look into it.

Does anyone know when the Madvr box is due to come out ?
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Does anyone know when the Madvr box is due to come out ?

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Apollo 11 documentary

Last night we watched the recently released Apollo 11 documentary. This was an unbelievable viewing experience and high recommendation for others to check it out. I have a large collection of documentaries and this one is in a league of it's own.

50% of the recently found 65mm footage has never been seen and the remaining footage has never looked this good. It has the classic 1960s Kodachrome look which is still awesome to see today.

No CGI, no unnecessary celebrity narration - 93 amazing minutes of of the entire mission from beginning to end.

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I have a copy of this on my way to me. I'll hopefully get it early next week.
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I use the new version of madvr that does dynamic tone mapping. I really tweak nothing at all. I actually used your suggested settings with the ub820 (hoping for a brightness boost in hdr) and was surprised by the superiority of madvr. Tone mapping was similar but detail a big win for madvr.
What does MadVr display, visually, over the 820? I'm curious about Envy as well.
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Last night we watched the recently released Apollo 11 documentary. This was an unbelievable viewing experience and high recommendation for others to check it out. I have a large collection of documentaries and this one is in a league of it's own.



50% of the recently found 65mm footage has never been seen and the remaining footage has never looked this good. It has the classic 1960s Kodachrome look which is still awesome to see today.



No CGI, no unnecessary celebrity narration - 93 amazing minutes of of the entire mission from beginning to end.



I saw it and it blew my mind.. the rocket taking off and the leaving the moon was ridiculous.. The dark side of the moon.. OMG!!!

Then I saw they should not grow old.. Speechless

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Then I saw they should not grow old.. Speechless
It is pretty incredible what previous generations have gone through and we all stand on the shoulders of these great heroes.
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It is pretty incredible what previous generations have gone through and we all stand on the shoulders of these great heroes.
Absolutely. Some of them where as young as 13. Crazy

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Yes, Apollo 11 is quite excellent indeed. Really offset the stink of Cold Pursuit.
I liked the Norwegian original version - I'll skip the remake. Now I need to check out Apollo 11 !
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What does MadVr display, visually, over the 820? I'm curious about Envy as well.

The Envy is going to be mad expensive. But if you already have a PC with a current gen Nvidia card - Madvr is totally worth using for free.


Hard to explain how visually it bests the ub820. You just have to see for yourself.

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Chernobyl - must see viewing

Has anyone watched the new HBO mini-series Chernobyl yet? I stumbled upon this the other night and watched all 3 episodes. I was watching regular TV with my DLP projector (1700:1 native, 6800:1 DI, better than most of the XRP DLP's) and figured it's just a TV quality production, what difference will it make watching on the DLP.

There are many low - very low APL scenes in the episodes I've seen so far. so 1/2 way through the viewing I switched over to the RS600 and started over again with episode 1. holy moly what a day and night difference. -11 on the iris with the DI on, it digs so deep in these scenes and they become more believable when the background isn't washed out in a grey haze.

The RS600 DI's ability to clamp down hard is a major feature I missed when I had the RS2000 here. I think they really need to reconsider this as a 3rd iris option. I was surprised how 'lit up' my screen was in these kinds of scenes with the RS2000.

if you still have your 500/600 today in 2019 go give it a pat on the back, these are still the native contrast kings in this price range.
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Has anyone watched the new HBO mini-series Chernobyl yet? I stumbled upon this the other night and watched all 3 episodes. I was watching regular TV with my DLP projector (1700:1 native, 6800:1 DI, better than most of the XRP DLP's) and figured it's just a TV quality production, what difference will it make watching on the DLP.

There are many low - very low APL scenes in the episodes I've seen so far. so 1/2 way through the viewing I switched over to the RS600 and started over again with episode 1. holy moly what a day and night difference. -11 on the iris with the DI on, it digs so deep in these scenes and they become more believable when the background isn't washed out in a grey haze.

The RS600 DI's ability to clamp down hard is a major feature I missed when I had the RS2000 here. I think they really need to reconsider this as a 3rd iris option. I was surprised how 'lit up' my screen was in these kinds of scenes with the RS2000.

if you still have your 500/600 today in 2019 go give it a pat on the back, these are still the native contrast kings in this price range.

We watched the 1st one over the weekend (very good so far)!

(kinda glad now I didn't have the cash to fork over on the RS2000 over getting my new "down south theater" finished! . . . Chad's coming down to my place in Tennessee 1st week in June so I'm excited to have everything finished after a YEAR!!)
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We watched the 1st one over the weekend (very good so far)!

(kinda glad now I didn't have the cash to fork over on the RS2000 over getting my new "down south theater" finished! . . . Chad's coming down to my place in Tennessee 1st week in June so I'm excited to have everything finished after a YEAR!!)
Keep watching, it gets better each episode!

Do you have any photos of the new setup? You had some great personal touches in the old theater, did you carry some of them over to the new?
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Keep watching, it gets better each episode!

Do you have any photos of the new setup? You had some great personal touches in the old theater, did you carry some of them over to the new?
Can't wait (now that GOT is over we'll be watching more of these other shows)!

I did post a few new pics back in Feb HERE but you may have missed it. I went with more of an old retro classic 40's look sans the CRAZY carpet I had to have (and I do agree with our convo last year when I was trying to convince you about the overhead Atmos speakers you eventually installed, that the overhead position I now have corrected (like yours), does indeed make a HUGE difference in the HWD interconnected fluidity of immersive sound... WOWee!).

Oh and a EDIT here cause I know you'll ask... Yes I'm using two SVS PC2000's as my Marvel & DC prop stands on the side of the velvet curtains!
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if you still have your 500/600 today in 2019 go give it a pat on the back, these are still the native contrast kings in this price range.
After 20 plus projectors, I always gravitate back to JVC. The 500/600 are really special indeed. I've burned quite a few hours on the lamp during these 2 weeks. Normally I watched sports in my lowly BenQ (which I just sold) due to its brightness but noisy fan. With this JVC, I really enjoyed the NBA playoffs via Roku 4K/YouTube TV, as well as old movies, such as Harry and Tonto, Batman 1989, Black Hawk Down 1080p, etc. Concert such as the Eagles Farewell Tour and documentary like Apollo 11 were also outstanding to watch. Each time when the end credits started to roll up, the fade to black just took on a new high (what bright corners? guess I was fortunate). Fast 8 in 4k Ultra HDR was lent to me; it's quite a treat, as well as Oblivion.

I returned the Sony x800 back to BB (after BR 2049 crashed it) and wait for the Panny 820 coming later this week to play with its tone mapping feature.

The only downside is HDMI synching, taking too long comparing to my 2k RS45.
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It will be soooooo much better when you use the 820. I personally use the RS2000 and UB9000 but literally every client who exchanged/upgraded their player to 820 and 9000 are much happier now.
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Can the 820 stream 4k online rentals yet? That's what has been holding me back.
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What kind of online rental? I use my ATV4K for rental.

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What kind of online rental? I use my ATV4K for rental.


I think you missed the point lol. The ATV cannot go through the 820 as no HDMI input. I think you obviously know that. The ATV has to go direct to JVC and therefore no tone mapping....custom curves are the best you can get for ATV.


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I’m not missing your point. I’m wondering which rental are you referring to as I use my ATV4K as my rental source.

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@tswire nailed it. I like the idea of the of the 820 but I only watch streaming uhd rentals. I’m not sure the 820 can help there but I hope I’m wrong.
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If you really want everything to be HDR optimized, then the new RS1000/2000/3000 is what you need. They come built in with HDR Optimizer.

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