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My understanding is that it’s 2 years even in the US.
Interesting. Here's a copy of mine, and I was told this was only valid in the US. I asked why I received this certificate when I had purchased from a Canadian dealer. They could not answer that, and continued to tell me in Canada it was only under warranty for 2 years.
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Interesting. Here's a copy of mine, and I was told this was only valid in the US. I asked why I received this certificate when I had purchased from a Canadian dealer. They could not answer that, and continued to tell me in Canada it was only under warranty for 2 years.
Sorry about the confusion. The photos I posted were both for the X550, 2 years in US and Canada. In Canada you have to go to the X950 or the RS models to get the longer warranty, but your photo shows 3 years for X750 in the US.

Did yours also come with a copy of the Canadian warranty?
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Sorry about the confusion. The photos I posted were both for the X550, 2 years in US and Canada. In Canada you have to go to the X950 or the RS models to get the longer warranty, but your photo shows 3 years for X750 in the US.

Did yours also come with a copy of the Canadian warranty?
Even though your certificate is for the 550, there's a line that lists the X750RB as only 2 years. I found it interesting that my US certificate for my X750RB is 3 years. After all the conversations I've had with my dealer, I'm wondering now if my certificate was a mistake. To answer your question, no, I never did receive a Canadian warranty card. (Unless I lost it, but I don't believe so) My JVC dealer had asked me for that as well.
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Even though your certificate is for the 550, there's a line that lists the X750RB as only 2 years. I found it interesting that my US certificate for my X750RB is 3 years. After all the conversations I've had with my dealer, I'm wondering now if my certificate was a mistake. To answer your question, no, I never did receive a Canadian warranty card. (Unless I lost it, but I don't believe so) My JVC dealer had asked me for that as well.
The certificate on the left (2 years) is from a US X550, compared with your picture which shows 3 years for the US X750.
The warranty card on the right is for Canada and lists all different models.
So indeed the US and Canadian models have different warranties.


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The certificate on the left (2 years) is from a US X550, compared with your picture which shows 3 years for the US X750.
The warranty card on the right is for Canada and lists all different models.
So indeed the US and Canadian models have different warranties.

Ok, I see that now. Thank you for clarifying. It does make me feel a little better about the whole thing.
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RS500 shutting down unexpectedly

I am having an interesting problem with my RS500. After about 1 hour, the unit just shuts off, leaving the optical lens cap open and without leaving the cooling fan on for a couple minutes like a regular shutdown. There are no LED indications at all.

It feels like maybe the unit shut down due to an overheating sensor, but you would think that if that were the case, then the unit would still shut the lens cap and run the cooling fan for a couple minutes.

I can turn the unit back on right away, but it will typically shutdown again in 5 or 10 minutes.

I cleaned the filter on the outside bottom of the unit. I also replaced the bulb (which just reached 2000 hours) hoping that would fix the problem. Neither resolved the problem.

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OK, so, say a dumb-dumb like me, who only has Apple products (including laptops) bought a Linker or Vertex. Is it as easy as just putting it inline in-between the HDMI cable coming from the receiver to the projector? Or is it the cable from the projector to the AVR? Will I lose the custom calibrated gamma settings? And, if not, will they still work the same way with this in the middle also working with the picture? Basically, I just need the projector to stop getting bad info about non-existent source shifts. That's my sole goal here. Definitely willing to invest $200-$300 to eliminate the annoyance, but don't want to solve one problem only to cause another, if you know what I mean. Or even make things worse.
If you don't mind spending a bit more, the HDfury Vertex2 would be much easier to configure since you can access all of its settings and perform firmware updates using an internet browser on any PC, table, or phone.

The Linker and original Vertex require a Windows PC to do firmware updates and access the full set of options. There is an iOS/Android App that communicates over blue tooth for simple configuration changes.

I believe the discount code "discount" is currently valid to get you a discount. You missed the Christmas sale.

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Hello,
Please, can you tell me how long the lamp will last in high mode?
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Please, can you tell me how long the lamp will last in high mode?
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Rated for 3500 hours in high mode, 4500 hours in low. YMMV.
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Rated for 3500 hours in high mode, 4500 hours in low. YMMV.
I thought less, so it's perfect, it still leaves a lot of time.
If you want an accurate calibration without too much loss of lumens, you have to set a high lamp.

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Rated for 3500 hours in high mode, 4500 hours in low. YMMV.
Can you confirm your estimate?
I contacted JVC France, no information ...
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Can you confirm your estimate?
I contacted JVC France, no information ...
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JVC does not guarantee the life of a lamp.

https://manual3.jvckenwood.com/proje...SYedffqtum.php


Usable lamp life
When the lamp is used with “Lamp Power” set to “Low”, the lamp life on this unit is approximately 4500 hours. This is the average usable time and not a guaranteed value.

The lamp life may not reach 4500 hours depending on the operating conditions.

When the lamp has reached the end of its usable life, deterioration progresses rapidly.

When the video image appears dark, when the color tone looks unnatural, or when the image flickers, replace the lamp unit with a new one promptly.

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JVC does not guarantee the life of a lamp.

https://manual3.jvckenwood.com/proje...SYedffqtum.php


Usable lamp life
When the lamp is used with “Lamp Power” set to “Low”, the lamp life on this unit is approximately 4500 hours. This is the average usable time and not a guaranteed value.

The lamp life may not reach 4500 hours depending on the operating conditions.

When the lamp has reached the end of its usable life, deterioration progresses rapidly.

When the video image appears dark, when the color tone looks unnatural, or when the image flickers, replace the lamp unit with a new one promptly.
So in use "lamp mode" high ", there is no way to know how long it will last?
Has anyone used a JVC constantly with the lamp mode "High" and inform us?
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So in use "lamp mode" high ", there is no way to know how long it will last?
Has anyone used a JVC constantly with the lamp mode "High" and inform us?
there is no way they could promise a lamp length. they have already stated the approx in low lamp which would be the least use on the lamp. Past that you will need to gather anecdotal evidence from members here that keep track of their viewing and mix of high/low lamp, room conditions, temp, circulation around projector, etc, etc, etc.

For me, I changed out my lamp at approx 3000 hours (based on the 3500 hours in high lamp approx from JVC) with 95%+ viewing in high lamp and the picture still looked fantastic. I replaced because I was having a calibration done and I wanted it done with a new lamp.

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Can you confirm your estimate?
I contacted JVC France, no information ...
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The rating is 3500 hours for high lamp, 4500 hours for low lamp.

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I thought I would post my recent experience with buying bare lamps on eBay for my JVC RS500, just in case others are tempted to do the same...

To make a long story short, the seller advertised some JVC PK-L2615UP Ushio Bare lamps, model NSHA250JK. I asked the seller if those lamps were exactly the same quality as the original ones, and the answer was a clear Yes.

I received the two lamps, they both looked legit, same as my original ones (I have two original lamps plus lamp housing, both lamps with 500-600 hours on each, and both lamps having dimmed approximately 25% since they were new).

it only took a quick comparison between the four lamps to come to this conclusion: Do not buy bare lamps from eBay, no matter what the seller says...
The new lamps are 30-35% dimmer than my older two lamps. I redid the test four times, I reinstalled each lamp twice, without ever moving my probe (i1Pro) from its original position.
The absolute nits reading means nothing, but the relative reading means a lot. Those lamps are worthless because of that.
Those new, legit lamps are probably 40-45% dimmer than the original ones (when they were new) according to my estimation...

On a brighter note, I have just ordered two lamps from Dominic Chan , and reports are that those are as bright as the real ones! I can't wait to get those.
I should have known better...
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I thought I would post my recent experience with buying bare lamps on eBay for my JVC RS500, just in case others are tempted to do the same...

To make a long story short, the seller advertised some JVC PK-L2615UP Ushio Bare lamps, model NSHA250JK. I asked the seller if those lamps were exactly the same quality as the original ones, and the answer was a clear Yes.

I received the two lamps, they both looked legit, same as my original ones (I have two original lamps plus lamp housing, both lamps with 500-600 hours on each, and both lamps having dimmed approximately 25% since they were new).

it only took a quick comparison between the four lamps to come to this conclusion: Do not buy bare lamps from eBay, no matter what the seller says...
The new lamps are 30-35% dimmer than my older two lamps. I redid the test four times, I reinstalled each lamp twice, without ever moving my probe (i1Pro) from its original position.
The absolute nits reading means nothing, but the relative reading means a lot. Those lamps are worthless because of that.
Those new, legit lamps are probably 40-45% dimmer than the original ones (when they were new) according to my estimation...

On a brighter note, I have just ordered two lamps from Dominic Chan , and reports are that those are as bright as the real ones! I can't wait to get those.
I should have known better...
There is more than one Chinese company that manufactures "replacement" or "compatible" bulbs that can mislead you into believing they are OEM bulbs. Not surprised they might end up on eBay. Other eBay sellers have tried to pass off 225 watt bulbs as OEM bulbs for our JVC projectors when we know JVC is now using 265 watt bulbs. The 225 watt bulbs were used in earlier JVC projectors.

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I am having an interesting problem with my RS500. After about 1 hour, the unit just shuts off, leaving the optical lens cap open and without leaving the cooling fan on for a couple minutes like a regular shutdown. There are no LED indications at all.

It feels like maybe the unit shut down due to an overheating sensor, but you would think that if that were the case, then the unit would still shut the lens cap and run the cooling fan for a couple minutes.

I can turn the unit back on right away, but it will typically shutdown again in 5 or 10 minutes.

I cleaned the filter on the outside bottom of the unit. I also replaced the bulb (which just reached 2000 hours) hoping that would fix the problem. Neither resolved the problem.

Any ideas?
So I changed the projector settings to "High Altitude" which seems to simply increase the fan speed, and the projector no longer shuts down unexpectedly. But I live at 400 ft above sea level, so I should not need to set the projector to High Altitude and hear the substantially louder fan noise.

I am wondering if my fan is failing or my temperature sensor is failing. Has anybody else had any thermal issues?
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There is more than one Chinese company that manufactures "replacement" or "compatible" bulbs that can mislead you into believing they are OEM bulbs. Not surprised they might end up on eBay. Other eBay sellers have tried to pass off 225 watt bulbs as OEM bulbs for our JVC projectors when we know JVC is now using 265 watt bulbs. The 225 watt bulbs were used in earlier JVC projectors.
That is why I double checked with the vendor (located in the United States). The vendor confirmed to me that is was a genuine JVC PK-L2615UP Ushio Bare lamp, model NSHA250JK (Same as OEM 265W)...of course, that means nothing, even though it says so on the box...
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So I changed the projector settings to "High Altitude" which seems to simply increase the fan speed, and the projector no longer shuts down unexpectedly. But I live at 400 ft above sea level, so I should not need to set the projector to High Altitude and hear the substantially louder fan noise.

I am wondering if my fan is failing or my temperature sensor is failing. Has anybody else had any thermal issues?
Is it out of warranty?
I believe you have 7 fans in your projector. One recently failed in my older rs45 which also showed no codes, but never shut down the projector either. it caused vertical convergence lines.
What I did was open my unit up and tear it apart until I found the faulty fan. The local JVC parts store was asking $200 for basically a little computer blower fan for the optical block. I ordered it from China for less than 1/4 than that.
The projector runs fine opened up for diagnosis, do not touch anything while it is running or shut off/ unplugged until all lights are off in projector.
I also used compressed air to cool the area around the optical block to confirm the fan not running was my issue.
Lots of parts and screws.
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Is it out of warranty?
I believe you have 7 fans in your projector. One recently failed in my older rs45 which also showed no codes, but never shut down the projector either. it caused vertical convergence lines.
What I did was open my unit up and tear it apart until I found the faulty fan. The local JVC parts store was asking $200 for basically a little computer blower fan for the optical block. I ordered it from China for less than 1/4 than that.
The projector runs fine opened up for diagnosis, do not touch anything while it is running or shut off/ unplugged until all lights are off in projector.
I also used compressed air to cool the area around the optical block to confirm the fan not running was my issue.
Lots of parts and screws.
Great info - Did you happen to take any pictures of the teardown?

(Yes, I am out of warranty)

Also, does anybody have a JVC RS500 service manual?
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I didn't take any photos during tare down. But here I sit waiting for the new fan. Hopefully its not power related. Good luck with yours.
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I didn't take any photos during tare down. But here I sit waiting for the new fan. Hopefully its not power related. Good luck with yours.
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So I changed the projector settings to "High Altitude" which seems to simply increase the fan speed, and the projector no longer shuts down unexpectedly. But I live at 400 ft above sea level, so I should not need to set the projector to High Altitude and hear the substantially louder fan noise.

I am wondering if my fan is failing or my temperature sensor is failing. Has anybody else had any thermal issues?
Good sleuth work. Now you know its probably a cooling issue.

I assume you have been cleaning out the air filter every hundred hours or (better) more frequently? To the naked eye it should look completely clean. Clean it anyway. And if you actually see any dust, then it is WAAAY too dirty to be working well.
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I have been cleaning the filter every couple of months which is about 200 hours of use. It always looks clean, but I clean with water anyway.

Thanks for the teardown pictures. I think I will try the same thing!
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