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Gregg Loewen came to my house last Thursday to calibrate my RS500. I am doing the Vertex 2 hack to get Dolby Vision. He set me up with a low and high SDR and an HDR10 and Dolby Vision calibration. I really enjoyed sitting in on the calibration. I had ChadB calibrate this projector 2 years ago, but he wasn't available for several more months. Gregg was. I will definitely give him a call the next time I need a calibration. Excellent experience and beautiful product.! My HDR/DV settings are so much brighter with the Arve tool gamma curves he made for me. For those of you from Va to Maine on the East coast, he travels the area once or twice a month. He may do a broader area, but you'd have to ask him.

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I'm perfectly happy with my X750R. No custom curves-Just using it with a couple different settings depending on what we are watching including 3D. UHD via a Panasonic 820 using the HDR-SDR conversion.

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Gregg Loewen came to my house last Thursday to calibrate my RS500. I am doing the Vertex 2 hack to get Dolby Vision. He set me up with a low and high SDR and an HDR10 and Dolby Vision calibration. I really enjoyed sitting in on the calibration. I had ChadB calibrate this projector 2 years ago, but he wasn't available for several more months. Gregg was. I will definitely give him a call the next time I need a calibration. Excellent experience and beautiful product.! My HDR/DV settings are so much brighter with the Arve tool gamma curves he made for me. For those of you from Va to Maine on the East coast, he travels the area once or twice a month. He may do a broader area, but you'd have to ask him.

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Love to hear more about the difference between the hdr10 and Dolby vision calibration. I thought the Dolby vision hack just produced a better hdr10 stream....so that your custom hdr10 curve could handle both hdr10 and hdr from the Dolby vision hack.

Was Greg familiar with the hack? Guessing so.

Are you saying your new custom curves are brighter than your old custom curves from Chad?

What are your sources for hdr content?
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I thought the Dolby vision hack just produced a better hdr10 stream....so that your custom hdr10 curve could handle both hdr10 and hdr from the Dolby vision hack.
The Dolby Vision hack produces a stream that’s been pre-mapped to the TV’s capabilities (e.g., Sony A1). Thus the custom curve can be made brighter without concern for clipping at the very high end. Loosely speaking, it’s akin to the Panasonic HDR Optimizer and the JVC NX Panasonic custom profiles.
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ChadB's calibration was fantastic but my system's calibration preceded the new Gamma curves. Chad gave me one fantastic curve but it was much less bright than the new curves I would read about and now have.

Gregg was familiar with the hack but the end adjustment for a Dolby Vision setting versus HDR10 setting was to decrease red (saturation, as I recall) of the HDR10 mode and to label it as Dolby Vision- but worth asking him for specifics. No red push with my sources. The Vertex 2 automatically switches between SDR/HDR/Vision in the JVC using the RS232 connection.

I use Panasonic 820 for discs. I have Roku Ultra, Fire TV 4k and Shield TV... to Apple TV 4k two days ago. I've migrated in that order for my streaming. Each box had its issues. The Roku Ultra had lots of trouble with interfering with startup and shutdown for my JVC and often had trouble maintaining good connection over HDMI. Software updates would screw things up, frequently. No Dolby Vision, often no Atmos. The Fire TV 4k just not enough options for adjusting color space and refresh rate. Shield TV seemed great but would not convert all to Dolby Vision and was finicky in what refresh rates and color space were available with settings on the Vertex 2 for getting the Dolby Vision displayed. The Apple TV is blowing them all away and I am sad that I didn't try it sooner.

I have locked everything to Dolby Vision 4k24 for output from Apple TV. I now no longer have to deal with RS500 slow switching between color space and rarely with changes in refresh rate (4k50 material comes to mind). My home page is Dolby Vision, SDR output as Dolby Vision and my HDR10 is converted to Dolby Vision. I leave lamp on low until a movie or show demands it, to my eyes. I do not know if I will stick with always on DV but it makes my system so easy to use and much more wife/children acceptable due to no dreaded delays in switching. I want as much as I can in low refresh rate primarily because the JVC cannot do Anamorphic setting for 4K60 and I like the image/flexibility of my anamorphic lens.

The Roku has been around in my house since the Ultra came out, but the Fire TV stick and Shield are newer and had their issues. Again, too bad I held out on the Apple TV. It also doesn't seem to hang my receiver and projector with shutdown, so the Harmony remote sequence is much faster. I currently have a 4 second delay forced in the JVC shutdown. This supports shutdown with the other streaming devices and I'm itching to remove the delay to make shutdown faster for the AppleTV. I might have to occasionally use the other devices, so still resisting the urge. I suspect the Panny 820 won't release HDMI connection fast enough, so further reason to keep the delay.

The Panny 820 with Dolby Vision discs is very similar on the screen to the Apple TV Dolby Vision. I don't feel I get much better on disc versus streaming now but I haven't spent a lot of time testing. I do feel the perceived quality of image from the Apple TV is better than the other streaming devices. The 820 will not convert HDR10 to Dolby Vision. The Tone Mapping adjustment on HDR10 with Panny 820 is probably as good or maybe slightly better on the screen than the same HDR10 converted to Dolby Vision by the Apple TV, but I would need a lot more testing to confirm; testing that I probably won't do.

My movie catalog is accessible through Amazon, Apple and Vudu through MoviesAnywhere. I like Vudu but using AppleTV through the AppleTV+ to display the MoviesAnywhere titles might give slightly better image, but I need more testing. Some of my titles are on Vudu only because some distributors do not yet have a contract/arrangement with MoviesAnywhere.
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I want to addend my previous note:

Just watched Hobbs and Shaw in Dolby Vision with the Panasonic 820. Absolutely the best image I have seen. Many thanks to Gregg Loewen!
The DV through the Vertex 2 is an awesome hack. The RS500 with the calibration is amazing and the DV from disc is clearly better than DV from Apple TV even though the Apple TV 4k DV is really pretty fantastic.
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Just watched Hobbs and Shaw in Dolby Vision with the Panasonic 820. Absolutely the best image I have seen. Many thanks to Gregg Loewen!

The DV through the Vertex 2 is an awesome hack. The RS500 with the calibration is amazing and the DV from disc is clearly better than DV from Apple TV even though the Apple TV 4k DV is really pretty fantastic.
I have this hack and it absolutely amazing.. through apple it looks stunning and though dv disc it looks even stunnier.. if that's even a word..



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I see there are several posts referring to the "Dolby Vision Hack." Can someone provide a link explaining what its all about?

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Thanks for the feedback. Although I don’t relish converting non DV to DV, so much of what I watch is native DV on the ATV4k that this is something I Will need to look into further. I was very hesitant because I had read that the color space is sparing using the DV hack and I only have a engenders 1 Vertex which I understand is not ideal....and I don’t yet have a calibrated setting for the evening hack.
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Thanks for the feedback. Although I don’t relish converting non DV to DV, so much of what I watch is native DV on the ATV4k that this is something I Will need to look into further. I was very hesitant because I had read that the color space is sparing using the DV hack and I only have a engenders 1 Vertex which I understand is not ideal....and I don’t yet have a calibrated setting for the evening hack.
Since you watch mostly native DV on the ATV4K, I think you will be satisfied with much of the results (check out For all Mankind). And for those cases where the notorious red tint appears, just use Dominic's custom LLDV color profile. As for a "special" calibrated setting for this hack, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. As long as you have a nice (I recommend one of Dominic's bright curves) custom curve installed, your normal HDR 10 settings will work just fine. I have also been playing around with SDR and HDR10 to DV conversions, and some of it could look very impressive.
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I have also been playing around with SDR and HDR10 to DV conversions, and some of it could look very impressive.
What device are you using for that? The ATV4K and UB820 won’t do it.
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What device are you using for that? The ATV4K and UB820 won’t do it.
I picked up another X800M2
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That’s what I thought
Can you confirm if it allows subtitle fonts and position to be customized? White is way too bright for HDR.
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That’s what I thought
Can you confirm if it allows subtitle fonts and position to be customized? White is way too bright for HDR.
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Definitely! Stepping out now for a bit but I will check it out as soon as I get back.
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I want to addend my previous note:



Just watched Hobbs and Shaw in Dolby Vision with the Panasonic 820. Absolutely the best image I have seen. Many thanks to Gregg Loewen!

The DV through the Vertex 2 is an awesome hack. The RS500 with the calibration is amazing and the DV from disc is clearly better than DV from Apple TV even though the Apple TV 4k DV is really pretty fantastic.
Comments like that kill me, I didnt hang with my rs600. I had it for about a year from initial release with the samsung k8500 before custom curves etc. Bailed and went with sony 385es, chad b calibrated but have always felt the better machine is boxed up in the other room.

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I picked up another X800M2
Crap I was going to suggest this hack to my friend who has a jvc520 but the panasonic ub820 doesn't work for this hack? Or it does let you play dolby vision but not convert HDR10 to DV..

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Crap I was going to suggest this hack to my friend who has a jvc520 but the panasonic ub820 doesn't work for this hack? Or it does let you play dolby vision but not convert HDR10 to DV..
Yes ^^^
The Sony will even convert SDR to “DV”.
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Yes ^^^

The Sony will even convert SDR to “DV”.
I'm sorry dominic not understanding your answer.. the Panasonic does let you convert uhd10 disc to DV?sorry to ask again

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Finally got the jvc 600 up and running a few weeks ago. Ive got chad b coming in March to do his magic but I’ve been really impressed by the picture just by putting in calibration I got off projector reviews until he shows up. This is my first projector so o have nothing to compare it too, but I love it! It’s going on a 127” 2:35 severtson cinema white microperf screen. Here’s a few shots taken just with my iPhone, jumanji and then a little Columbo for you to show the different ratio’s.
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I'm sorry dominic not understanding your answer.. the Panasonic does let you convert uhd10 disc to DV?sorry to ask again

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You asked if "it does let you play dolby vision but not convert HDR10 to DV" and my answer was yes, meaning indeed it plays DV discs but does not convert anything else to DV.
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You asked if "it does let you play dolby vision but not convert HDR10 to DV" and my answer was yes, meaning indeed it plays DV discs by does not convert anything else to DV.
Your right I asked the wrong question.

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That’s what I thought
Can you confirm if it allows subtitle fonts and position to be customized? White is way too bright for HDR.
Thanks.
@Dominic Chan after exploring all the sub-menus, it looks like only the position of the sub-titles can be changed (up or down). Font size and font color cannot be changed. And I agree, the white really is too bright for HDR. The picture with the menu option highlighted is: subtitle shift
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Owners of these Projectors should head over to the HDR/SDR to DV conversion for projectors thread as there have been some exciting developments. It's beneficial to read the whole thread but check out the last page just for a taste of where things have evolved.

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Ford vs. Ferrari UHD

We just finished watching Ford vs. Ferrari tonight, it was an excellent movie for the story, acting, visuals and the pounding sound track!

They did a great job transporting us back to the time period of this race. high recommend to check out the movie.

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We just finished watching Ford vs. Ferrari tonight, it was an excellent movie for the story, acting, visuals and the pounding sound track!

They did a great job transporting us back to the time period of this race. high recommend to check out the movie.
I watched it today as well (also saw it in IMAX); it looked and sounded great. I am so glad the Disney "Atmouse" audio issues haven't bled over to Fox. Ford v Ferrari is probably the best movie of 2019, top 3 for sure.

Also picked up Shutter Island 4K and that looked great too (same DTS-HD audio as Blu-ray).
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Help Needed with JVC Contact

Hi, I need some help, I have JVC X9000 projector that is just under 4 yrs and it has developed the following fault:
Out of the 4 installation modes, the projector works OK on the 2 upright modes, and exhibits the fault on both the inverted positions (Installation setting)
This needs the main PCB board & DD PCB, X9000 replaced Part numbers
XD1-0155-50 & XD1-0175-50 at a cost of just under $1800 AUD.

I consider this a major failure. I have emailed customer service/Support here Australia last Monday and informed them about the failure and would they consider this an acceptable failure for such a high value product and would they consider and 'Gesture of Goodwill' repair through the JVC repair centre they recommended I use when I first contacted them ab out the fault.

To-date I haven't received a response not even an acknowledgment of the receiving the email. This isn't unusual for Australian based companies. That said I would like to try escalate this within JVC.

This is reason for posting here to gauge whether I'm being unreasonable or not and if anyone here has another contact email address for JVC as it seem a pointless trying again through the JVC Australian Support.
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Hi, I need some help, I have JVC X9000 projector that is just under 4 yrs and it has developed the following fault:
Out of the 4 installation modes, the projector works OK on the 2 upright modes, and exhibits the fault on both the inverted positions (Installation setting)
This needs the main PCB board & DD PCB, X9000 replaced Part numbers
XD1-0155-50 & XD1-0175-50 at a cost of just under $1800 AUD.
I can't speak to what they will do for you. I assume your warranty was only 3 years for that? Did you happen to purchase with a credit card that extends your warranty? Here in the US some cards offer that service. My AmEx adds 1 year and Citi card adds 2 years.

Is your projector actually inverted when it is failing for you or are you just cycling the modes and it fails in that mode regardless of physical orientation? I ask only because my first projector, from years ago, had the same fault but it was the bulb starting to fail. It would operate upright but fail when inverted.
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