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GOTG 2 UHD/3D combo last chance

these have been sold out, this is likely the last chance to get the 3D version of this movie in the US. The 3D is outstanding on this movie and should be seen at least once in 3D.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/guardia...?skuId=5904801

http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/490...hdbluray2.html
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these have been sold out, this is likely the last chance to get the 3D version of this movie in the US. The 3D is outstanding on this movie and should be seen at least once in 3D.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/guardia...?skuId=5904801

http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/490...hdbluray2.html
You're Killing me!

...but you're rarely wrong so it's on the way.
BB Canada never did get on the shelves and sold out months ago (on-line only) so I totally missed out by not pre-ordering.
and BB.com won't ship to Canada ....so that left ebay as my only option (from a fellow Canuck)

I guess I need to get me some 3D glasses finally, been putting it off for almost a year now.

I have quite a few 4K/3D combo's to watch already, and since this was such an AWESOME movie to begin with,
I didn't want to have any regrets by missing out on a 3D option. (I'm also a HUGE sucker for steelbooks)
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Have you seen them on a recent machine? While both my RS4910 and RS600 have had bright corners, but they're only visible on a completely black screen, and only after your eyes adapt to the dark. It's not something I've ever seen with anything on the screen.
No I haven't noticed them at all on any recent machines that I've viewed at trade shows. But I watch a lot of older (some not so old) films that have long slow fade-to-blacks and I feel that I need to have the projector in my environment (Bat-cave) w/ my screen to properly test for bright corners to my satisfaction. But I hear what you are saying and nothing is perfect and if they are only viewable on a rare occasion then I could certainly live w/ them. I'll be buying a new JVC projector (e.g. 9900, 600, 620) after CEDIA so I'll be testing for them soon enough. My experience (contrary to others) is they never lessen or fade away with time.
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You're Killing me!

...but you're rarely wrong so it's on the way.
BB Canada never did get on the shelves and sold out months ago (on-line only) so I totally missed out by not pre-ordering.
and BB.com won't ship to Canada ....so that left ebay as my only option (from a fellow Canuck)

I guess I need to get me some 3D glasses finally, been putting it off for almost a year now.

I have quite a few 4K/3D combo's to watch already, and since this was such an AWESOME movie to begin with,
I didn't want to have any regrets by missing out on a 3D option. (I'm also a HUGE sucker for steelbooks)

and... it's gone again. that was fast, I grabbed a copy for a coworker who missed out on the steelbook.

We had guests this past weekend that aren't generally 3D fans requesting a 2nd viewing the 3D is that good in this movie.

you can get a pair of glasses + RF transmitter for relatively cheap:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZW7SR2
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you can get a pair of glasses + RF transmitter for relatively cheap:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZW7SR2
Yes, I think we've had that exchange before (almost a year ago) but amazon.com won't ship those to Canada,
and they are twice as much at amazon.ca, So Mitsubishi 642 series is considered compatible with JVC? is the emitter IR or RF ?

They are still substantially cheaper than the JVC PK-AG3 RF Glasses + emitter up here
($150ea + $130 JVC PK-EM2G RF Emitter)

Is RF preferred over IR in some setups?

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Yes, I think we've had that exchange before (almost a year ago) but amazon.com won't ship those to Canada,
and they are twice as much at amazon.ca So Mitsubishi is considered compatible? is the emitter IR or RF ?

They are still substantially cheaper than the JVC PK-AG3 RF Glasses + emitter up here
($150ea + $130 JVC PK-EM2G RF Emitter)

Is RF preferred over IR in some setups?

My JVC is sitting on top of a 5' high bookcase,
about 3' behind my MLP and backs onto a velvet wall (~4" gap for breathing room)
I forgot we discussed before. That kit was just branded for Mitsubishi they include an Xpand RF transmitter (works for Sony and JVC) and a pair of Xpand RF105 glasses.

I like the RF better since there's no chance for sync loss. Some sell the older IR glasses but they are heavier and less comfortable than the RF105's.

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I forgot we discussed before. That kit was just branded for Mitsubishi they include an Xpand RF transmitter (works for Sony and JVC) and a pair of Xpand RF105 glasses.

I like the RF better since there's no chance for sync loss. Some sell the older IR glasses but they are heavier and less comfortable than the RF105's.

Spoiler!
Order placed! (there were only 2 left, so I felt compelled to act RFN).
...also added Gravity 3D and Prometheus 3D blurays

Thanks Again Brother Zombie!
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Order placed! (there were only 2 left, so I felt compelled to act RFN).
...also added Gravity 3D and Prometheus 3D blurays

Thanks Again Brother Zombie!
Hey Pio was this amazon.ca? Do u have the link? Thanks man

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Hey Pio was this amazon.ca? Do u have the link? Thanks man
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/EX105BT-Shutte.../dp/B009ZW7SR2

Looks like there's more available now from 5 different vendors, but the prices are up +$20 now
I went with the cheapest price, free shipping, best feedback and shortest shipping dates

From amazon.ca Glasses plus emitter $98


From amazon.com (International Global Shipping)
Single Pair of Glasses $40(US) ea + $14.50 international shipping



I could not get the Glasses + Emitter through Amazon.com Global shipping for some reason.
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Order placed! (there were only 2 left, so I felt compelled to act RFN).
...also added Gravity 3D and Prometheus 3D blurays

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Link: https://www.amazon.ca/EX105BT-Shutte.../dp/B009ZW7SR2

Looks like there's more available now from 5 different vendors.
I went with the cheapest price, free shipping, best feedback and shortest shipping dates
I went back to check my price paid for the original JVC 3D glasses from Eastporters. It cost me CAD 130 per pair + Sales Tax about 11 months ago. The JVC RF emitter was CAD 100.
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I went back to check my price paid for the original JVC 3D glasses from Eastporters. It cost me CAD 130 per pair + Sales Tax about 11 months ago. The JVC RF emitter was CAD 100.
I just got an email from Eastporters (also where I bought my X750)
...expecting to catch a price break, not so much: $150/pair for JVC glasses and $100 emitter.
For my 3 seat theater that would have been $550 before taxes LOL!

I'll take my chances with Expand from amazon
and use the money saved to build up a 3D library of some of my favorite titles on Black Friday

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BladeRunner UHD HDR.. get it!

Bladerunner sold out at Amazon and BB - I can see why this is so popular they did a remarkable job with this transfer.

The WCG looks great and most important is how much shadow detail they were able to maintain throughout the various dark scenes which is basically the entire movie.

what a perfect match of a movie for the JVC. The ATMOS track is also excellent. I can finally retire the LaserDisc.


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Bladerunner sold out at Amazon and BB - I can see why this is so popular they did a remarkable job with this transfer.

The WCG looks great and most important is how much shadow detail they were able to maintain throughout the various dark scenes which is basically the entire movie.

what a perfect match of a movie for the JVC. The ATMOS track is also excellent. I can finally retire the LaserDisc.


I watched it yesterday evening with a friend, it was the first time I was able to see something close to the initial theater release. It was very moving. Only the screen size prevented it from being better than at the cinema, every single aspect (contrast, color, sound) was as good or better. The Atmos track is great (it feels like it rains on us and the crowd ambiance is fantastic) and HDR is well used. It's very faithful to the original, just tastefully enhanced. One of the best restorations I've seen, although the latest Spartacus on bluray was even more incredible as it was so much more colorful.

Still, the shots of the Tyrell corp building, the neon signs in the streets are incredible. Nice to see they reproduced the original grain and didn't try to sharpen it artificially. There is a lot of detail as it is. It certainly never looked that good at home, and I had the VHS, DVD and Bluray! One of my favorite movie of all times, those old enough to have seen the original theatrical release in their teen years as I did will be moved to see it looking that great. It's like seeing a long lost friend after many years!
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I watched it yesterday evening with a friend, it was the first time I was able to see something close to the initial theater release. It was very moving. Only the screen size prevented it from being better than at the cinema, every single aspect (contrast, color, sound) was as good or better. The Atmos track is great (it feels like it rains on us and the crowd ambiance is fantastic) and HDR is well used. It's very faithful to the original, just tastefully enhanced. One of the best restorations I've seen, although the latest Spartacus on bluray was even more incredible as it was so much more colorful.

Still, the shots of the Tyrell corp building, the neon signs in the streets are incredible. Nice to see they reproduced the original grain and didn't try to sharpen it artificially. There is a lot of detail as it is. It certainly never looked that good at home, and I had the VHS, DVD and Bluray! One of my favorite movie of all times, those old enough to have seen the original theatrical release in their teen years as I did will be moved to see it looking that great. It's like seeing a long lost friend after many years!
I cant wait to get my hands on this, it comes out in Australia in two weeks at a price point quite a bit lower than the US, so I will have to wait.

I remember seeing a proper 4k projection of this when they did the remaster back in 2007 I think it was. Really excellent then, I am sure its going to be mind blowing in UHD. Great to hear they did the HDR right and didn't try and shove the colours down our throats. I was a little worried there.

Also one of my all time films, I could almost go as far as saying one of the 5 best films ever made, right there with 2001. Speaking of... I cant wait for 2001.
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these have been sold out, this is likely the last chance to get the 3D version of this movie in the US. The 3D is outstanding on this movie and should be seen at least once in 3D.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/guardia...?skuId=5904801

http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/490...hdbluray2.html
Based only on you guys raving about the 3D and the UHD HDR transfers I went on Amazon today and ordered that "SteelBook" set for $63. There were quite a number of options of whom to buy from including from the US.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...axy+2+Ultra+HD
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Looks like there's more available now from 5 different vendors.
I went with the cheapest price, free shipping, best feedback and shortest shipping dates
Thank you for the link, also made the order, to Finland!

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I cant wait to get my hands on this, it comes out in Australia in two weeks at a price point quite a bit lower than the US, so I will have to wait.

I remember seeing a proper 4k projection of this when they did the remaster back in 2007 I think it was. Really excellent then, I am sure its going to be mind blowing in UHD. Great to hear they did the HDR right and didn't try and shove the colours down our throats. I was a little worried there.

Also one of my all time films, I could almost go as far as saying one of the 5 best films ever made, right there with 2001. Speaking of... I cant wait for 2001.
This movie is one of the main reasons I went through the arguably pretty-great (and not possible to achieve without avsforum.com) four week hassle to upgrade and calibrate my home theater to 4k/HDR.

In what I can only interpret as a someone-greater-than-this-god-forsaken-world-felt-my-pain-weird turn of event the Blu-ray is now on its way to Sweden Thursday from Amazon.com on highest shipping speed...with free shipping! Including a copy of Alien: Covenant...with free shipping!

When I pre-ordered Blade Runner I also bought Covenant as a separate item on two shipping speeds, not wanting to slow down Blade Runner. As I was of hit with bit of environmental shame, I contacted Amazon support and asked if there might be a way still to combine the two, and without hesitation Amazon just dead-pan informed me that they would refund me all shipping charges for both items (!).

So instead of more than 100 USD for both movies I'm now paying less than 50 USD. Amazon: in my heart. Environment: rain check....

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Bladerunner sold out at Amazon and BB - I can see why this is so popular they did a remarkable job with this transfer.
My order from Amazon was supposed to be delivered yesterday. I got an email in the afternoon stating that shipping was delayed. I am afraid they might have oversold and will have to wait until restocked.

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I remember seeing a proper 4k projection of this when they did the remaster back in 2007 I think it was. Really excellent then, I am sure its going to be mind blowing in UHD. Great to hear they did the HDR right and didn't try and shove the colours down our throats. I was a little worried there.
Manni couldn't have said it better...it is indeed very faithful and restoration is very solid. The UHD looked organic and very film-like it brought me back in time. The combined resolution, color gamut, HDR, and contrast depth is intoxicating - for example, they all come together at the start in chapter 15: as the camera descends slowly into view towards the fish lab under natural fluorescent lighting with strong neon lights just above them; while on the right side there's very strong contrast detail on the street with natural HDR enhancements all over in this scene.

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Also one of my all time films, I could almost go as far as saying one of the 5 best films ever made, right there with 2001. Speaking of... I cant wait for 2001.
Truly admire Sir Scott's vision and work - the visual design, screenplay, pacing, all the characters, the spinner...and not to forget that very fascinating esper machine w/c can exist by today's standards.

funny when I watched it late last night...my reaction to Blade Runner was somehow similar to Vincent Teoh's of HDTV Test in his latest video with the sony monitor. You should see his emotions and lost for words...
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Same here. No banding (and not looking for it...) but bad, bothersome bright corners that did not change since day one.
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Same here. No banding (and not looking for it...) but bad, bothersome bright corners that did not change since day one.
Which model do you have?

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Has anyone experienced a sudden lamp failure after a brief power outage?

Ten days ago our home lost electrical power for a few minutes and for no apparent reason (nice weather outside).

A few days later, I tried turning on my RS500 (for the first time since the power outage) but the red and orange lights were on and no light was emitted from the PJ. The lamp was dead (at less than 450 hours total)!

I removed and reinstalled the lamp without any effect

Only inserting my back up lamp fixed the problem right away and everything has been OK since then.

Can a power outage suddenly kill a lamp? the PJ was plugged in but was not turned on...
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RS500. I know there should be some banding, but I never looked for it or noticed it...
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Has anyone experienced a sudden lamp failure after a brief power outage?
The lamp was more likely damaged by the surge transients associated with the power outage, than the power outage itself.
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Thanks guys. Does your HDMI haywire condition look like this? http://vid177.photobucket.com/albums...psdqvwwg6m.mp4
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Yes, that's it.

I power cycled the whole theater, and also turned CMD off, as some have suggested that this might be the source of the problem.

I was then able to reconnect and sync without problem.
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The first pattern, which you show in that video, is what I see when I try to load Netflix.

If I then switch inputs on my Marantz SR7010, to try and re-establish Sync, I then got what sounds like the second pattern - very vivid colors, straight lines, sometimes some grainy like areas along the top vertical edge of the picture. I was trying to 're-establish' sync, but this wouldn't work. Had to turn the PJ off and then on again to re-sync.

As I said above, turning CMD off seemed to do the trick.
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It's definitely not the JVC because JVC has moved on to the RS620 and is not about to do another firmware update or admit it's their issue.

But seriously, 4k hdr from the Roku is 2160p60 4:2:2 12 bit, a legal full bandwidth signal, and not 4:4:4 8 bit. So showing the Samsung works is not relevant, as the format is different.

Besides, the fact that turning off CMD "fixes" the issue ought to tell you where the problem lies.
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We are going in circles. It doesn't matter what CAUSES the problem - under no circumstances should the JVC HDMI completely freeze up and not be recoverable without power cycling the unit, short of a defect in it's software or firmware, which should be fixed. Yes JVC may not be able to prevent the signal from dropping out or not showing up, but their projector should be able to recover from the condition more gracefully. The fix we are asking for is just that - so we don't have to power cycle the unit to get it working again once it goes haywire.

In my case I have the UB900 which does put out 4K 60 444 for its Home screen, which I can display just fine on the projector. And as I mentioned, this is NOT just in the case of the Roku. It has happened about 1-2 times a month (with every day projector usage) when switching between the UB900 and Comcast X1 STB with the Roku not even in the chain at the time, as I reported here back in October. When you ask why are we blaming the projector when Roku is so buggy (which it is!), THAT is why - it is not confined to the Roku. Tho that said, the Roku definitely triggers it to happen more often. And also as I said, in any event, the projector needs to be able to handle such a case more gracefully instead of going haywire.
Hey guys - I'm following up on the "HDMI going haywire" issue that we were talking about here several months ago with my RS600.

As a quick recap - I would run into this issue every blue moon when watching 4K UHD Blu-rays on the UB900, specifically when switching back to another source. This was tolerable because it was so infrequent. However, I recently started watching Netflix and Amazon Prime Video shows in 4K HDR - and with these streaming services I would get the HDMI haywire issue pretty much every single time it started playback of the show. This would happen with both the Panasonic UB900 and Roku Ultra.

I was recently emailing with @Mike Garrett about it, and he suggested I switch the CMD to off. Sure enough, with CMD off I do not have the issue at all. My apologizes to those who suggested this months ago in this thread, saying that it solved it for them too. I'm not sure how I missed or overlooked that.

At any rate, I can confirm that 90%+ of the time I try 4K HDR from Netflix or Amazon off the UB900 or Roku I have this issue, and in the 50-some times I have tested this since turning CMD to off I have never had the issue. Just as a quick test, I recently changed the CMD back to Low and sure enough immediately got the issue again (as would be expected now).

We can say for certain this is NOT the fault of the Roku or UB900, since it happens with both devices. And we can say that even if they are sending something the JVC does not like which it should not be sending, then the JVC should still be handling this more gracefully. The HDMI haywire wouldn't be so bad if you could just say "oh whoops" and switch inputs back and forth and clear it. But the full power cycle makes it a real hassle.

I am waiting to hear back from JVC on why this occurs and what the plan is to correct it. Mike - Any word from them? Since the last time we emailed I now have tested this dozens more times as mentioned above and can conclusively say that CMD off is fine and Low causes the issue (not sure about how). I can even switch to CMD Low AFTER the HDMI sync and its fine - but the problem with that is that I forget after the show to put it back to off before the next HDMI handshake and then the HDMI goes haywire.

Thanks!
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I think Mike told us he would let us know if he heard anything. I just leave mine off, but it shouldn't do this in my opinion and is a known bug. SJ
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I have been meaning to ask UB900 and Roku owners if there is a difference in PQ and sound playing Netflix from these two. I notice a big difference from my TV and roku2, so going 4k with these projectors I want to know if the panny is as good as the roku ultra (or viceversa) for Netflix.

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Please let's keep the focus on the JVC in this thread. If you want some additional info on other products please take the questions to those forums or send a member a PM with your questions (continue the discussion)

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I'm really a fan of JVC projectors. I own a X950 unit and the difficulties existing in getting HDR, only possible with the use of Fury products. Even with the little we know about the new e-shift 5 projectors, in my case, is it worth an upgrade?
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I'm really a fan of JVC projectors. I own a X950 unit and the difficulties existing in getting HDR, only possible with the use of Fury products. Even with the little we know about the new e-shift 5 projectors, in my case, is it worth an upgrade?
I don't think it only Fury products. What about Lumagen RadiancePro for instance?

HT: Oppo UDP-203 -> Lumagen RadiancePro 4446 {18 GHz input x2 & 18 GHz output x1 cards} - "new (112818 FW)" 18 GHz microcode - parallel outs to --> [Audio: Denon 5308CI] --> [Video: JVC RS520 FW v30.1]
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