Originally Posted by Globespy
I know there's a price difference, but I'm hoping for some unbiased opinions (take your JVC hat off please).
I was going to buy the Epson until I found out it didn't work with Xbox One X at 4K HDR 60.
That was until some smarty found the HDFury that solved this issue and it's essentially a format/handshake issue.
I've read that the 2015/2016 JVC models had crushed blacks, and very slow software changing between sources.
Latency for games for RS400/500 etc series is a lot higher and not really great for gaming without artifacts.
New Rs420 etc is much more in line with the Epson (25ms or so).
I saw the X590R is to be had for a bit under $4K, and the 5040 is $2400. I plan to keep my PJ for at least 6 years, so $1500 is immaterial.
I have a home theater in my newly finished basement. It's a large open space that will see some daylight (not a ton of direct sun as window wells), so during the day some ambient light viewing will be likely. I game. A lot. Xbox One X and PC. I need low latency, capable of a minimum of 4K HDR 60. My gaming PC can do much more than 60FPS 4K HDR - not sure if either of these PJ's can do more than that? Are they limited to 60FPS? I don't know how the actual displays work and if source is a huge factor?
Which brings me to my question.
Money aside, if the price was the same, what is better for my needs?
Hoping to see some unbiased, objective reviews - if you could buy today, what would you do (not what you did and sticking to your guns because you are financially and thus emotionally invested in being biased).
1st, if you want low latency for gaming, You're in the wrong JVC thread.
This is the 2015
model JVC thread for the RS500/600,
You will want a 2016 520/620 or 2017 540/640 for low latency gaming.
They both have their own dedicated threads.
The Espon's Faux-K PJ's are limited by a 10.2Gbps HDMI chip (green only in the chart below)
JVC's (2015 and up) are all full 18.0 Gbps compatible, in Gold on the chart below.
Spec for 4K over HDMI 2.0
...and No, an HDFury device won't fix that for you, (I have an HDFury Vertex and an Integral)
It's NOT simply a "handshake" issue, it's a Bandwidth issue!
The only way an Espon can do 4K60 with HDR is to drop to 8 Bit and you will get banding
HDR requires at least 10 Bit color depth and 4K at 60P requires 11.1 Gbps minimum bandwidth that the Espon cannot pass.
The JVC's are good to 18.0 (technically 17.8 at 4K/60 4:2:2 and up to 12
4K/60 4:2:2 HDR BT.2020 12 Bit on my 2015 JVC X750(RS500)
If an Epson 5040 can do that with an HDFury Vertex, I would love to see it.
FWIW I was an Epson fan boy and hard core gamer for over a decade, my Espon 1080UB lasted 8 long years, 5 replacement lamps and logged 13K hours.
When I retired it for 4K and a better Cinema
experience with a JVC X750(RS500) I was thrilled with the Massive upgrade in Native Contrast.
No way I'd ever go back to Epson now, no matter how much money it would save me.
The JVC support on AVS is second to none for calibration and custom gamma curves for HDR
and the Vertex just took things to a whole new level.