Originally Posted by Larryfl
this thread is amazing with all the information but can someone tell me how the hdfury will help and how hard to setup/program etc...
I have no problem purchasing one if there will are a real perceived benefit...just not really sure what it will mean to me as the thread is a little bit information overload
I have a Marantz 8802 along with Roku and appletv4k both of which support HDR and using a jvc rs600
On this generation of projectors, RS500/600, the Fury products give you (these are the main features, not ALL the features):
1) Don't trigger Gamma D. What does this mean? When playing back an HDR source, this generation of JVC goes into an HDR mode called Gamma D. This mode is NOT a correct gamma for HDR, but it was a "best guess" when JVC created these projectors. The next two generations (the 520/620 and the 540/640) have a better gamma for HDR. Not perfect, but good enough that most people won't notice they are missing anything. With Gamma D, everyone notices things look like crap. The solution: Buy an HD Fury product and trick the JVC by not letting it know it's getting an HDR signal..... and create a CUSTOM gamma for HDR, which you manually select when playing an HDR source.
(If you get the latest Fury product, the Vertex, you can also have the Vertex switch the JVC gamma automatically for you -- but if you are on a budget, a used Linker can do most of what you need other than this auto switching, for 1/3 the price on the used market.)
2) Enable dynamic iris. What does this mean? The JVC, when going into HDR/Gamma D mode, disables the dynamic iris. By using a Fury product, you can "trick" the JVC into using the dynamic iris in HDR mode (because you are not going into Gamma D but into your custom curves mode). Most people really like this. I use it this way too much of the time, but I'm not sure it makes a huge difference in my setup - but my peak brightness in HDR mode is only about 80 nits, so that may mean I don't really have significantly elevated black levels to begin with....
NOTE: You do NOT need any FURY product in order to use a Custom HDR Gamma, but you will have to manually select your custom gamma each time the signal changes because without a Fury the JVC will switch to Gamma D (RS500 generation) at first when getting an HDR signal.
Originally Posted by mustang5o
I was leaning towards the x750 especially if I can get them to drop the price a bit more. However, does the x750 support increased color space? I wasn't sure if that was supported until 2017 mid and upper end models. If the x750 does support the full DCI P3 (I know none of the entry level models do) then that really pushes me that direction.
There are three levels each year. Since at least the RS500 generation, the middle and top models have supported a much wider color space than the bottom level -- ie, essentially all of P3-DCI.
Of course, that makes sense. If I could find a NIB x750 or x770 for a really good price I might consider that. Again, I need to figure out my priorities and all. I think seeing these two available now is making me want to upgrade the projector. Which will accelerate everything else I need to do
Frankly, when putting a room together, I would wait and get the projector and receiver last. Screen, seating, acoustic treatment, and everything else should be in place ..... and then the projector and receiver. Why? Because it is a motivating factor and because you can save lots of money with the price decreases that happen while you are getting everything else put together.
Can you point me to some threads on the Fury products and the people mentioned here who help make them work great with the JVC's? Lots of reading to do I'm sure. I wonder how much they can help out the entry level JVC's?
I'm actually trying to budget in a meter and calibration software myself (been studying it off and on for a couple of years now). Probably one of the ChromaPure packages with EyeOne Pro2 and Display 3. Considering I could probably use a real calibration (instead of DNice settings) on my 2 plasmas (ZT60, 500M) it would be worth it for me to get into calibrating my own stuff. Any threads on these custom gamma settings or are they buried in the owners threads?
There is a whole JVC autocal thread which covers the basic use of the JVC autocal software (which requires a Spyder meter). https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...500-rs600.html
Calibrating a JVC is a multistep process for best results, roughly:
1. Autocal process (using JVC software and correct Spyder meter) to get a good baseline.
2. Touch up calibration process, using something like HCFR, Calman, etc with a better meter like a ColorMunki.
3. Custom gamma process, to create a custom gamma curve to replace/supercede the GammaD curve (RS500 generation). Later generations have a much better HDR gamma built in, but can still benefit from a custom curve.
If you are game to go down the calibration rabbit hole, more power to you! It's not for the faint of heart, but it's like learning to do work on your own car -- a sense of empowerment, some saved money, a steep learning curve but it is possible to learn, etc etc.