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The link isn't working for me. What is meant by "drift in its panels"?
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Hi all...

I've been trying to find some info on how to eliminate or at least minimize the flicker affect in 3D Movies. I was wondering if there were any step by step settings changes that I can do on my JVC DLA-x550r projector to eliminate the flickering. I have the JVC RF Emitter with Xpand "X3" glasses.

Any help you can share with me, is greatly appreciated.

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Better now - at least with one of the pairs of glasses. Stay tuned...
All's good now - and my six pairs of Panasonic and two pairs of Xpand glasses are synced.
What I think I've learned (and my apologies for being dense if I didn't pick up on this before):
Insure glasses are fully charged before syncing.
Leave switch in "on" position and wait for solid green to verify sync.

Ready now for this week's showing of either "It Came From Outer Space" or the new "Ghostbusters".
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All's good now - and my six pairs of Panasonic and two pairs of Xpand glasses are synced.
What I think I've learned (and my apologies for being dense if I didn't pick up on this before):
Insure glasses are fully charged before syncing.
Leave switch in "on" position and wait for solid green to verify sync.

Ready now for this week's showing of either "It Came From Outer Space" or the new "Ghostbusters".
Thanks to all who helped out here.
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Let me know what you think of "It Came From Outer Space." Looks interesting, but I wasn't confident enough that it would be worth it to buy it yet!

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Just received my 400 a few days ago and like it except for the HDR setting that is on the JVC website.

Would someone please share their HDR settings with me along with any "gaming" settings used to reduce lag

I scanned thru and number of pages and couldn't find the info. Apologize if this has already been answered.

I did manage to watch a few minutes of a 3d dvd ( new ghostbusters and combo included a HDR version) and was impressed with the lack of ghosting; great for a non DLP projector. Not as bright as the Epson 5040 that my neighbor has but the Epson ghosted which is a deal breaker for me.

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Just received my 400 a few days ago and like it except for the HDR setting that is on the JVC website.

Would someone please share their HDR settings with me along with any "gaming" settings used to reduce lag

I scanned thru and number of pages and couldn't find the info. Apologize if this has already been answered.

I did manage to watch a few minutes of a 3d dvd ( new ghostbusters and combo included a HDR version) and was impressed with the lack of ghosting; great for a non DLP projector. Not as bright as the Epson 5040 that my neighbor has but the Epson ghosted which is a deal breaker for me.

Only allowed 4 hours or less if projector can be returned for credit.

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Can you please test online pes fifa etc football games and report input lag?
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Can you please test online pes fifa etc football games and report input lag?
I have watched American football and do not see any lag, nor any while playing Gears of War 4 for a few minutes
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I have watched American football and do not see any lag, nor any while playing Gears of War 4 for a few minutes
You can't see lag watching tv, he means for video games. It's the amount of time it takes for the game to react after you hit a button on the controller. The RS400 is known to have pretty terrible lag. It's playable for some types of games, but if you play anything that needs really precise timing, like online shooters or platformers, most people will find it unplayable.
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I'm losing my mind trying to get a sharp image.

Clear Black: A misleading name. As far as I can see, this is a Darbee-like enhancement. High is nice for close-ups but medium or wide shots have artifacts, making objects appear artificially sharpened.

Enhance: Contrary to its name, this seems like the standard Sharpness slider rather than an enhancement feature. Leaving it at 0 makes the picture too soft but 5 is causing artifacts around edges.

4K E-shift On 1080p material, I can't see much of a difference.

Currently, I have Clear Black on Low, Enhance at 3, and e-shift on. My player is a PS3, so no upscaling there.

With the above settings, something like the grass in a wide shot in The Hobbit looks horrible and overly sharpened. But if I reduce Enhance or Clear Black, the picture becomes soft. I'd appreciate it if somebody could help me out with this.

CMD, NR, Smoothing, Blur Reduction are all off. I view a 12 ft wide 16:9 screen from 10 ft away.
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I'm losing my mind trying to get a sharp image.

Clear Black: A misleading name. As far as I can see, this is a Darbee-like enhancement. High is nice for close-ups but medium or wide shots have artifacts, making objects appear artificially sharpened.

Enhance: Contrary to its name, this seems like the standard Sharpness slider rather than an enhancement feature. Leaving it at 0 makes the picture too soft but 5 is causing artifacts around edges.

4K E-shift On 1080p material, I can't see much of a difference.

Currently, I have Clear Black on Low, Enhance at 3, and e-shift on. My player is a PS3, so no upscaling there.

With the above settings, something like the grass in a wide shot in The Hobbit looks horrible and overly sharpened. But if I reduce Enhance or Clear Black, the picture becomes soft. I'd appreciate it if somebody could help me out with this.

CMD, NR, Smoothing, Blur Reduction are all off. I view a 12 ft wide 16:9 screen from 10 ft away.
We need more info, are you using a custom preset that you created or just one of the standard settings like cinema? You should use zombie10k settings to create a user preset as a starting point. If you search for user zombie10k he has a linl in his signature.
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We need more info, are you using a custom preset that you created or just one of the standard settings like cinema? You should use zombie10k settings to create a user preset as a starting point. If you search for user zombie10k he has a linl in his signature.
I've created a custom preset. Gamma and color calibration (for every aperture) has been done via Autocal.

Color Profile: Manni's rec 709
Gamma: 2.3 (Picture tone: 0. Dark Level: 4. Bright level: -3)

Brightness: 1
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CMD, NR, Smoothing, Blur Reduction are all off. I view a 12 ft wide 16:9 screen from 10 ft away.
Just for clarification you are sitting 10' away
from a 12' wide 165" diagonal 16:9 screen, 81"tall
...My eyes are bleeding just trying to imagine that




sorry, what was the question again?
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Just for clarification you are sitting 10' away
from a 12' wide 165" diagonal 16"9 screen, 81"tall
...My eyes are bleeding just trying to imagine that
Spoiler!


sorry, what was the question again?
I like it filling my field-of-view; makes for an immersive experience .
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and yet you wonder why you can't get a sharp image?

(hint: perhaps it's because your eyes can't keep up with the onscreen action)
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Just for clarification you are sitting 10' away
from a 12' wide 165" diagonal 16:9 screen, 81"tall
...My eyes are bleeding just trying to imagine that




sorry, what was the question again?
He has indicated he is having trouble with sharpness.

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and yet you wonder why you can't get a sharp image?

(hint: perhaps it's because your eyes can't keep up with the onscreen action)
That's not really an issue. It's not as daunting as it sounds on paper-- it's more like sitting in the middle of the theater as opposed to the front row.

I'm actually pausing the movies to adjust the sharpness. Trying to find the right balance between the softness and the over-sharpened image is driving me crazy. Clear Black and Enhance: the two seem to have a push-pull relationship.
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He has indicated he is having trouble with sharpness.
When I park my butt 6' feet from my 8'-6" wide screen,
my JVC X750 doesn't look so "sharp" anymore because my eyes don't have enough time/distance or space to focus during a high action sequence.

Unless he has a defective JVC,
Sharpness is not a known issue for JVC users with "reasonable" viewing distances/angles.

Everything has its limits and the only factor to determine a flaw in this case is
whether its the ability/acuity of the human eye or a flaw in the JVC projector.

"My JVC is not sharp enough" said no one ever, until now.
So that brings into question, what makes srinivas1015's different from most?

Either the projector is broken,
or it's user error/improper setup.

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I'm actually pausing the movies to adjust the sharpness.
You're doing it wrong!

Is this your first projector?

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You're doing it wrong!

Is this your first projector?
Elaborate?

If I recall, you have your Enhance setting at 5, right? This does give a sharp image, but what I'm trying to do is increase sharpness without artifacts being introduced.
But for that, I'm trying to gather whether the artifacts are being caused by Clear Black or Enhance or E-shift.
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To adjust my lens zoom, shift, and focus I turned off E-shift and used the JVC green grid.
Then the only adjustments I made from factory defaults were as per zombie10k's settings, 100% to the letter.
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That's not really an issue. It's not as daunting as it sounds on paper-- it's more like sitting in the middle of the theater as opposed to the front row.
Actually

10' from a 12' wide screen
is .83 screen widths viewing distance
and very close to the front row. 62º viewing angle

10' from an 8'-6" wide screen (120" diagonal)
is ~1.2 screen widths viewing distance
is right in the middle (45º viewing angle)



...Keep in mind that's based on a scope image 2.39:1
Full screen 16:9 content would be extremely taxing on your vision

What's the throw distance and what screen material/gain?

I cant imagine where you would have room for a center channel speaker if its not an AT screen.

If using an acoustically transparent screen at that size/distance that may explain it.
The larger you make the image, the larger the pixels get and sitting closer than "normal"
amplifies your ability to see things you would not at a typical viewing distance.
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I like it filling my field-of-view; makes for an immersive experience .
Having an image that large and sitting that close will definitely reveal artifacts that most wouldn't even normally notice.

Try keeping e-shift off for non-4K sources. I find it definitely increases the perceived sharpness to keep it off.

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Having an image that large and sitting that close will definitely reveal artifacts that most wouldn't even normally notice.

Try keeping e-shift off for non-4K sources. I find it definitely increases the perceived sharpness to keep it off.

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That's odd (not saying it's not true) that E-Shift "Off" would sharpen 1080 content....

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That's odd (not saying it's not true) that E-Shift "Off" would sharpen 1080 content....
Yes it is very counter to what I would have expected when I received my JVC 6 months ago. However I'm not the only who has noticed this.

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Gotcha. And, I'm speaking as a neutral. Both the JVC and the Epson are top of my list for a near future purchase. Users of the Epson talk about how significantly better 1080 Blu-ray is with 4K enhancement. Some of the pro reviews reflect this as well, like projectorreviews.com

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I don't think its even possible to get the focus dialed in with E-Shift engaged,
its partially designed to intentionally blur the lines of the gaps between the pixels to reduce the screen door effect when you are closer to the screen.

It's those "gaps" that can reveal the pixel definition and at a distance "fool" your eyes
into believing they are seeing a sharper image.

That's why a true pro review uses the term "perceived" sharpness.

The JVC/Sony Lcos have an extremely high pixel fill factor compared to LCD panels
So the "gap" between pixels are much smaller and harder to see.



I know it sounds counter-intuitive but when viewed from a distance, a lower fill factor
can be perceived as sharper, when in fact it is not. The higher fill factor will appear more natural and film-like.

I prefer the later,
and its also why I've always liked Plasma over LCD TV's as well.

My 120" screen from 9' away, samsung smartphone camera

4K


1080 w/E-shift



1080 w/E-shift


If you like the Soap Opera effect, (looks too "digital" to my eyes)
Epson may be a better projector choice.

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Does anybody else have issues with the projector throwing error codes and failing to start? I have had this happen twice in about 8 months now. I get a code via the indicator lights that the bulb failed the light. I unplug and replug the projector and that fixes it. Not sure if this is something I should contact JVC over.

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If you like the Soap Opera effect, (looks too "digital" to my eyes)
Epson may be a better projector choice.
I don't think that Frame Interpolation and the "Soap Opera Effect" are at play here. That's not what's being discussed with regards to sharpness or "perceived sharper detail or resolution".

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To adjust my lens zoom, shift, and focus I turned off E-shift and used the JVC green grid.
Then the only adjustments I made from factory defaults were as per zombie10k's settings, 100% to the letter.
That's how I had set up my JVC as well. Used the Pattern Generator for Lens Shift, Focus, and Zoom.
I'm using a movie to only set Clear Black and Enhance, as they're essentially Darbee-like settings.


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Actually

10' from a 12' wide screen
is .83 screen widths viewing distance
and very close to the front row. 62º viewing angle

10' from an 8'-6" wide screen (120" diagonal)
is ~1.2 screen widths viewing distance
is right in the middle (45º viewing angle)
Spoiler!


...Keep in mind that's based on a scope image 2.39:1
Full screen 16:9 content would be extremely taxing on your vision

What's the throw distance and what screen material/gain?

I cant imagine where you would have room for a center channel speaker if its not an AT screen.

If using an acoustically transparent screen at that size/distance that may explain it.
The larger you make the image, the larger the pixels get and sitting closer than "normal"
amplifies your ability to see things you would not at a typical viewing distance.
All right, I took some actual measurements today. My screen is 10 ft wide; not 12. And my seat is exactly 13 ft away. The projector is 20 ft away from the screen. Brightness is not at all an issue now, even with Picture Tone at 0 and the lamp on low.

I'm not sure about the screen material but I do know that it's not Acoustically Transparent and the gain is 1.0.

This is a photo I had taken with my old Optoma projector just to give you an idea of what it's like: (and yes, I know that white walls wash out the contrast )




Pringles for scale.

Oh, and by the way, another factor to consider is that your player is superior and also comes with 4K upscaling. I'm using a PS3 at the moment and it induces judder at 24 hz. I know it's the PS3 because it's the same case when used with both my TVs. I won't say anything on this until I get my Oppo UDP-203, which will most likely make this a non-issue.


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Having an image that large and sitting that close will definitely reveal artifacts that most wouldn't even normally notice.

Try keeping e-shift off for non-4K sources. I find it definitely increases the perceived sharpness to keep it off.

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I watched 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi today with E-Shift off-- noticeably sharper. Just to test things out, I set Clear Black to high but hadn't noticed any artifacts. Enhance was at 3. I guess it depends on the source as well.

The convergence is slightly off on either side of the image and I'm working on fixing it with Pixel Shift. I'm assuming this contributes to the sharpness as well?

Either way, I'm thoroughly impressed with the JVC's black levels (even with my white walls). The Auto Iris is a godsend and I can't even imagine how I'm going to use HDR without it. I see now why everyone here is using an Integral.
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