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post #1681 of 5642 Old 05-21-2016, 10:01 PM
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Ill ask again.
Got a quick question. I have the RS400 PJ. My screen is a 2.40 screen and I use a Panamorph UH480 Anamorphic Lens. If I want to move to watching 4k what do I need other than a 4K blu ray player? I have the Marantz 7702MKII Processor. Will the picture be that much noticeably better?
Also do I need to do a firmware update? Only had the pj a month or so.
Are you planning to watch uhd 4k discs or just steaming? You would need a hdmi cable that will carry 18gb which finding one that goes more than 25' seems to be hit or miss. If you plan to get samsung k8500 you should update both the samsung and jvc to latest fw. And import/load bt2020 color profile in jvc.

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Stupid question:

Regarding playing blu rays. I have an upscaling player by Sony that upscales to 4K. Should I use that function in the player and send the projector a 4K picture, or should I just set the Sony to 1080p and let the JVC upscale it? Your rationale would be much appreciated , too.
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^^^^ Try it both ways, I would bet it looks better allowing the JVC to handle things. Imagine how good the scaler is in the Sony Blu Ray player when the player itself costs $100 or so. The only true way to enjoy 4K is to have the original content filmed in 4K then transferred to the devise of choice in 4K. Upscaling usually does very little. For example lets say you have the Brady Bunch series on DVD, how good do you think that will look upscaled to 4K Start with crap, end with crap....
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In addition to what Chris says above, there's also the matter of data transmission and the HDMI cable. People have had plenty of problems passing full 4K 18Gbps data through various HDMI cables, even expensive ones, which increase with the longer cable length.

If you pass only the 1080P data from the Sony to the JVC, there wouldn't be any issues in this regard, and the JVC would then handle the heavy work.

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So in real world impressions - how bad is this thing with gaming? I did a ton of research on projectors, and I was close to pulling the trigger on this yesterday - but then the bombshell hit and I read a couple reviews that say this isn't the best projector for gaming. I've also heard it's not the worst. Kind of annoying as I pretty much had this part picked out, and now I feel like I have to start over.

I'll be using the project for 50/50 movies/games. My kids will most likely be doing 10% movies, 90% games - but I have a panasonic plasma they can also use for gaming if needs be. But I definitely want to game on the projector (don't have a lot of time for it, but I do play around occasionally).

I've got an xbox 360, xbox one, ps3, ps4, and a hefty gaming PC as well. I'm not like a competitive gamer or anything. Most / all of the games I play are single player (no COD / multiplayer for me). I do like action oriented, RPG, and games with good story's (uncharted, far cry, bloodborne, fallout, etc). So how annoying is this supposed lag it has? If I don't play any multiplayer games is this not a big deal?

I can't imagine that I'm terribly picky (I use all wireless mouse / bluetooth receivers for gaming, so I'm not a wired mouse fanatic). I have no idea how much input lag wireless mouse / bluetooth type receivers / controllers have, but I don't notice any lag on them (if there is it's too low for me to notice). Just as a reference to what I'm used to. How bad is it going to be? Should I be looking at another projector? If anyone lives in Utah / SLC and is willing to let me demo it, I'd be all over it.

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Hi i just recieved a roku4
I have it set to 4k and the picture is amazing
But when im watching a show in 4k every now and then the right side of the screen looses sync, and gets a whole heap of green lines for a second then goes back to normal
I think it is my internet not keeping up as i only have adsl 2
Any theories ?
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In addition to what Chris says above, there's also the matter of data transmission and the HDMI cable. People have had plenty of problems passing full 4K 18Gbps data through various HDMI cables, even expensive ones, which increase with the longer cable length.

If you pass only the 1080P data from the Sony to the JVC, there wouldn't be any issues in this regard, and the JVC would then handle the heavy work.
So what HDMI cables people are having the most success with ? I need one for 30-35ft.

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Hello friends

First of all sorry for my English.

I have a dedicated home theater. It is equal a black cave. (Matte grey walls and ceiling) 106inch fixed frame elite 1.1 cinewhite screen

I have Sony HW50es. If i upgrade to jvc rs400 will there a be a huge difference with overall PQ?

Which one is sharper? Sony + Reality Creation ON or JVC 400 with Native lens?

Which one has more accurate colors with OUT of BOX?

What about Motion and 3D? I know gaming is bad with jvc.

Is it worth to upgrade? only difference is BLACK levels? I am not a huge fan of black level

Thank you
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Hello friends

First of all sorry for my English.

I have a dedicated home theater. It is equal a black cave. (Matte grey walls and ceiling) 106inch fixed frame elite 1.1 cinewhite screen

I have Sony HW50es. If i upgrade to jvc rs400 will there a be a huge difference with overall PQ?

Which one is sharper? Sony + Reality Creation ON or JVC 400 with Native lens?

Which one has more accurate colors with OUT of BOX?

What about Motion and 3D? I know gaming is bad with jvc.

Is it worth to upgrade? only difference is BLACK levels? I am not a huge fan of black level

Thank you
not a fan of Black levels!!? black is the canvas
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not a fan of Black levels!!? black is the canvas
I wonder will i only get benefit of black levels or more? Sorry maybe i cant explain myself very well
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I wonder will i only get benefit of black levels or more? Sorry maybe i cant explain myself very well
HDR.
Better 3D.
4K Input.
E-Shift 4
18Gbps HDMI
1700 Lumens

And of course about 4 times better black levels.

Not enough?
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HDR.
Better 3D.
4K Input.
E-Shift 4
18Gbps HDMI
1700 Lumens

And of course about 4 times better black levels.

Not enough?
Nice what about sharpness, natural skin tones and colours, and motion? Thank you
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Nice what about sharpness, natural skin tones and colours, and motion? Thank you


Skin tones and colours can be calibrated to a level that is impossible to tell apart from a sony. OOTB is a gamble but both brands are supposed to be excellent.

The JVC has a far better lens than that Sony does, and possibly even better than the 300ES.

As for the rest I am not sure I haven't compared the two. Go have a look at one.

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Is your PJ shelf/table mounted to the center of the screen?
My current setup has the projector slightly below the center of the screen.

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Right now a dealer has a very good deal on the X5000 here in Denmark
Before I buy I'm interested in knowing how HDR content looks with the lamp on the Low setting
I read that it should be on the High setting
But then the projector would be too noisy (I sit directly below it)
Is it absolutely neccessary to have the lamp on High?
Thanks
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Right now a dealer has a very good deal on the X5000 here in Denmark
Before I buy I'm interested in knowing how HDR content looks with the lamp on the Low setting
I read that it should be on the High setting
But then the projector would be too noisy (I sit directly below it)
Is it absolutely neccessary to have the lamp on High?
Thanks
I've got mine on low lamp and prefer it that way. And it is bright enough for me

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Right now a dealer has a very good deal on the X5000 here in Denmark
Before I buy I'm interested in knowing how HDR content looks with the lamp on the Low setting
I read that it should be on the High setting
But then the projector would be too noisy (I sit directly below it)
Is it absolutely neccessary to have the lamp on High?
Thanks
Projectors have a hard enough time as is producing the required brightness for HDR to work so yes you will have to set the lamp to high to get the effect. I believe it has been confirmed both in this thread and from JVC directly that HDR and low lamp just aren't compatible with each other. For everything else low lamp should work just fine, I've got my projector on low and I've never had any problem with a lack of brightness.

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I wanted to see if anybody has some thoughts about an ongoing problem I have had with 3D flickering. I've tried a few pairs of glasses and can't seem to get the problem to clear up completely and it's horribly distracting. I'm wondering if I might have an issue with the emitter. Anybody else ever have this issue?

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About to pull the trigger on this JVC.. the 400 most likely, but have a few questions for you experts

How well does the projector handle 2160p @ 60hz input from an HTPC? Text sharp?
Really would like to use the HTPC to view 4K streams, as well as viewing photos and 4K videos taken with my Sony A7RII

I am coming from a Panasonic 8000 (for sale now), but quite disappointed with the black levels.. I've never seen any JVC in person, how would the 400 compare? Is the 500 significantly better for black levels? Black level is my absolute top priority. I am set up in a pitch black basement with no windows black walls ceiling and dark carpet.

Also, where would you recommend I purchase the projector?

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I am confused on the RS 400 native resolution.
I thought it is 1920x1080, but in this thread, someone said it would input 4k.
E shift is simulated 4k... so do they mean it will input e shift res or real 4k?
The manual says
you can switch 4K e-shift on or off
and
under original resolution, can choose Auto/4k/1080p.
I assume those are input resolutions.
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About to pull the trigger on this JVC.. the 400 most likely, but have a few questions for you experts

How well does the projector handle 2160p @ 60hz input from an HTPC? Text sharp?
Really would like to use the HTPC to view 4K streams, as well as viewing photos and 4K videos taken with my Sony A7RII

I am coming from a Panasonic 8000 (for sale now), but quite disappointed with the black levels.. I've never seen any JVC in person, how would the 400 compare? Is the 500 significantly better for black levels? Black level is my absolute top priority. I am set up in a pitch black basement with no windows black walls ceiling and dark carpet.

Also, where would you recommend I purchase the projector?

Thanks!
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I wanted to see if anybody has some thoughts about an ongoing problem I have had with 3D flickering. I've tried a few pairs of glasses and can't seem to get the problem to clear up completely and it's horribly distracting. I'm wondering if I might have an issue with the emitter. Anybody else ever have this issue?
I've only seen bad flickering on images where the majority of the image is white. A great example is the end of "Life of Pi" where Pi is sitting in the hospital bed. Other than that the 3D has been excellent. I don't have any idea how to get the flickering to stop.
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I am confused on the RS 400 native resolution.
I thought it is 1920x1080, but in this thread, someone said it would input 4k.
E shift is simulated 4k... so do they mean it will input e shift res or real 4k?
The manual says
you can switch 4K e-shift on or off
and
under original resolution, can choose Auto/4k/1080p.
I assume those are input resolutions.
thanks
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got my questions answered,, thanks Mike

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Interested in upgrading from my current Pioneer FPJ1 and wondered how much of a difference the RS400 will be? I figure the RS400 will be quite a bit brighter which I believe will be beneficial as I do have some ambient light that is difficult to get rid of (the room the projector is in is the living room so I can't quite make it the bat cave I would like). Hoping this would be a pretty substantial upgrade.

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Interested in upgrading from my current Pioneer FPJ1 and wondered how much of a difference the RS400 will be? I figure the RS400 will be quite a bit brighter which I believe will be beneficial as I do have some ambient light that is difficult to get rid of (the room the projector is in is the living room so I can't quite make it the bat cave I would like). Hoping this would be a pretty substantial upgrade.

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BT 2020 import/calibration software

Silly question,

Is it possible to import the BT2020 color profile without having to purchase/calibrate with the Syder 5 Elite? Just trying to get things set up with the projector for when I finally convert to a UHD player. Noticed all of the calibration software making it seem like you would be unable to operate any of it without the Spyder.

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Don't need Spyder to import BT2020.

Why waste $ on more cheap stuff, it's like challenging a dragon with a pocket knife.
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Don't need Spyder to import BT2020.
Excellent. Thank you!
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Had my JVC calibrated yesterday.....low lamp, 17 fl with a 2.3 gamma on a Dalite 100" screen in a dedicated theater. Picture looks AMAZING!!!!!
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