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Epson Debuts HDR Projectors at CE Week 2016

At CE Week in New York City this week, Epson is unveiling its latest lamp-based projectors for home theaters. The new lineup includes two Home Cinema models (5040UB and 5040UBe) and two Pro Cinema units (4040 and 6040UB). All of them share many of the same features with a few differences I'll point out along the way.


The flagship Pro Cinema 6040UB is one of four new projectors from Epson.

All four models feature the second generation of Epson's 4K Enhancement technology, which shifts each pixel in the 1920x1080 imagers by half a pixel diagonally to create a 3840x2160 image. This allows them to accept a UHD/4K input signal and display it at close-to-full resolution. Also included in this technology suite are Epson's Super Resolution and improved Detail Enhancement functions to sharpen the image.

Even better, these are the first Epson projectors that can accept and display high dynamic-range (HDR) signals using the open-standard HDR10 format, which is mandatory on all HDR Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. With a maximum luminance rating of 2500 white and color lumens (2300 white and color lumens for the Pro Cinema 4040), these specs are quite a bit higher than JVC's HDR-capable projectors, which max out at 1900 lumens. (As some members have pointed out, the actual peak luminance after calibration could be substantially less, but there's no way to know until someone does a real review.)

Of course, HDR is about more than sheer brightness. Using new auto-iris and lens-iris designs, three of the new projectors are spec'd to deliver a dynamic contrast ratio of up to 1,000,000:1 (160,000:1 for the 4040). As we all know, any manufacturer's contrast-ratio specs are suspect, but the "UB" (Ultra Black) designation in these model numbers is not without merit. Epson's UB models have always exhibited excellent black levels, and I'm willing to bet that the new ones are no exception, which yields superb contrast in real-world content.

Another critical aspect of HDR is wide color gamut (WCG), and the new Epson projectors really shine in this regard. Thanks to an improved dichroic mirror and cinema filter, they can display 100% of the DCI/P3 color gamut in their Digital Cinema mode and the entire sRGB gamut (which is very close to BT.709) in any mode. The Pro Cinema 6040UB also includes ISF certification and built-in ISF calibration tools as well as picture memories.

Other features include a new optical engine and all-glass lens system for improved sharpness and color uniformity. Also, a precision-motorized lens assembly provides +/-96% vertical and +/-47% horizontal lens shift as well as powered zoom and focus with 10 lens memories. All four can display 3D and come with active 3D glasses, but the resolution is 1920x1080 per eye. In addition, the Home Cinema 5040UBe offers wireless transmission of UHD/4K content using the WirelessHD system. The transmitter module provides four HDMI inputs (one of which is also MHL-compatible) that support UHD/4K signals and HDCP 2.2 copy protection.

What's the difference between the Home Cinema and Pro Cinema lines? The Pro Cinema models include a ceiling mount, extra lamp, cable cover, and 3-year warranty (90 days on the lamp), while the Home Cinema models carry a 2-year warranty (90 days on the lamp) and do not come with the extra goodies. Also, the Home Cinema models have white casings, while the Pro Cinema units are black.


The Home Cinema 5040UB and 5040UBe have a white casing, like all Home Cinema models.

What about prices and availability? The Pro Cinema 4040 ($2699) and 6040UB ($3999) will be available through CEDIA and specialty retailers, while the Home Cinema 5040UB ($2999) and 5040UBe ($3299) will be sold by selected retailers, e-tailers, and the Epson online store. All will start shipping in August.

Mark Henninger will be among the first journalists to see any of these projectors in action at CE Week, and he will post his impressions in the first comment of this thread, so stay tuned for that. Meanwhile, I'm quite excited that there will soon be more projectors in the market with HDR capabilities, and I can't wait to try one out for myself.

Please do not quote this entire article when posting a comment. Feel free to quote the relevant portion that pertains to your comment, but wading through the entire thing in the comments is quite annoying. Thanks!

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Even better, these are the first Epson projectors that can accept and display high dynamic-range (HDR) signals using the open-standard HDR10 format, which is mandatory on all HDR Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. With a maximum luminance rating of 2500 white and color lumens (2300 white and color lumens for the Pro Cinema 4040), these projectors are quite a bit brighter than JVC's HDR-capable projectors, which max out at 1900 lumens.
Scott, hi that seems like a bit of a bold claim considering the history of Epson quoting white and color lumens that don't align with D65 calibrations. The Epson 5030 is a good example - stating 2400 white / color lumens but was substantially less than the quoted numbers - more like 700-800 D65 lumens on a good day. The 2016 JVC's can genuinely crank out 1800 D65 lumens. I think many will watch with reserve until the actual #'s are measured.
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Yup, though it is nice to see some new machines.

  1. Are the these using Epson's LCoQ/RLCD panels, or traditional LCD?
  2. They tout DCI/P3 coverage, but do they accept UHD Blu-ray's Rec.2020?


If they've got decent brightness, and use the new LCoQ panels, and have image quality similar to the LS10000, these could fly off the shelves.
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With a maximum luminance rating of 2500 white and color lumens (2300 white and color lumens for the Pro Cinema 4040), these projectors are quite a bit brighter than JVC's HDR-capable projectors, which max out at 1900 lumens.
I would be careful with a statement like this. Epson has traditionally lost a LOT of lumens when a calibration occurs. The 6030 for example has less than 800 lumens of brightness to reach a proper REC709/D65 calibration even though the claimed lumen output was over 2000. JVC on the other hand has a track record for nearly achieving their claimed lumen output even after a calibration occurs. So unless Epson has drastically changed it's tune, I really think this statement needs revision. Manufacturers can claim anything they want, but as always the proof is in the pudding and Epson's pudding has been mighty dim as of late.
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Scott, hi that seems like a bit of a bold claim considering the history of Epson quoting white and color lumens that don't align with D65 calibrations. The Epson 5030 is a good example - stating 2400 white / color lumens but was substantially less than the quoted numbers - more like 700-800 D65 lumens on a good day. The 2016 JVC's can genuinely crank out 1800 D65 lumens. I think many will watch with reserve until the actual #'s are measured.
Haha, I just posted the same thing. Didn't realize others were tackling this statement as well.
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Yup, though it is nice to see some new machines.

  1. Are the these using Epson's LCoQ/RLCD panels, or traditional LCD?
  2. They tout DCI/P3 coverage, but do they accept UHD Blu-ray's Rec.2020?


If they've got decent brightness, and use the new LCoQ panels, and have image quality similar to the LS10000, these could fly off the shelves.
LCD. I also wonder what the lumen loss is with the filter in place for DCI, since we are talking around 700/800 Rec 709 lumens to begin with. Even living room mode is going to need a lot more lumens than what the current models can do, to show HDR.

Don't get me wrong, a 5030 with HDMI 2.0a, E-shift and DCI filter (making it a 5040) added brings the cost of a projector that can play 4K BD even lower, so that is a good thing.
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Haha, I just posted the same thing. Didn't realize others were tackling this statement as well.
The very first test anyone who can get their hands on this unit should do is measure and post the D65 lumens. Their claim for LS10K 'color and white lumens' also didn't match the D65 cal. In 2016, I'm not sure why they are still hung up on those outdated lumen discussions against DLP business projectors.

It's good to see Epson is still in the game in this price range, I thought they were done with LCD/UHP after the 5030.

I would think they have to update the LS10K at some point during this release - it wouldn't make sense for the models @ 1/2 price to support HDR and their flagship laser model doesn't.
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One thing I don't understand is why they keep making the consumer level projectors in white.. That was one of the reasons I returned my Epson 5030.
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It's always good to see progress in home front projection even in lower to mid range type projectors.

I'm curious to see the updates made to the laser-based units.
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One thing I don't understand is why they keep making the consumer level projectors in white.. That was one of the reasons I returned my Epson 5030.
Probably to satisfy wives who don't want a dark looking 'box' in their light colored room.
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Exciting, priced to sell too. Might have to pick up one of these this fall. I've had my w1070 for five years now, might be time to retire the ol' boy.
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I see where you guys are coming from, but geez, you need to give Scott some slack here! He's just running off of stated specs which anyone reading here will know can always be a little suspect. No one has even seen the darn things in person yet!

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Can't wait to see the list of supported resolutions + refresh rates (1080p/120hz in HDR would be great for gaming), and what the input lag is like.

Do we expect these models to support 3D?

I'm also curious as hell how come projectors can sell wireless UHD transmission capability but somehow for VR that's no good. Did anyone actually measure and compare the latency using the wireless HD transmitters instead of wired HDMI? Having wires on the back of VR goggles is their biggest flaw for room-scale gaming (that and screen door effect but there are filters for that and plus resolution will go up too).

I might have to drop my dream of waiting for a DLP if they keep the prices up on the UHD versions, and pick up an Epson. Hope it's not too loud. Are Epson models usually noisy?
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Can't wait to see the list of supported resolutions + refresh rates (1080p/120hz in HDR would be great for gaming), and what the input lag is like.

Do we expect these models to support 3D?

I'm also curious as hell how come projectors can sell wireless UHD transmission capability but somehow for VR that's no good. Did anyone actually measure and compare the latency using the wireless HD transmitters instead of wired HDMI? Having wires on the back of VR goggles is their biggest flaw for room-scale gaming (that and screen door effect but there are filters for that and plus resolution will go up too).

I might have to drop my dream of waiting for a DLP if they keep the prices up on the UHD versions, and pick up an Epson. Hope it's not too loud. Are Epson models usually noisy?
They are reasonably quiet in low lamp. A little loud in high lamp, but if you are wanting to do 4K UHD BD with HDR, you will most certainly be in high lamp.
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LCD. I also wonder what the lumen loss is with the filter in place for DCI, since we are talking around 700/800 Rec 709 lumens to begin with. Even living room mode is going to need a lot more lumens than what the current models can do, to show HDR.
Yeah, that's disappointing. From the specs I was hoping it was basically an LS10000 without the laser. That doesn't seem unreasonable given that pretty much everyone wants a 100% price premium for solid state illumination, and these are about 1/2 the LS10000 price. But it sure sounds like it's just the same old Epson LCDs with e-Shift and a DCI filter.

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Don't get me wrong, a 5030 with HDMI 2.0a, E-shift and DCI filter (making it a 5040) added brings the cost of a projector that can play 4K BD even lower, so that is a good thing.
Sure, but a "dim" low contrast LCD just doesn't interest me. Not when I can get a much brighter, higher contrast, and higher fill-factor RS400 for about the same price.
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LCD.
I didn't know you could eshift with LCD. I thought it required LCOS/LCOQ unless they're using a different method.

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I also wonder what the lumen loss is with the filter in place for DCI, since we are talking around 700/800 Rec 709 lumens to begin with.
Where did you get 700/800 calibrated lumen numbers?
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I see they added a" new auto-iris and lens-iris designs" and new optical engine. Did the previous models have an auto-iris?

It sounds like the 6040UB is set-up to compete against the JVC RS400, but that will be tough match I think but we'll see. with the new components, it should be very interesting. The 4040 might be a great budget unit especially if the street price is lower.
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Does Epson provide a guide on how to communicate, share and persuade "Wife" about the need to buy a new projector?

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One thing I don't understand is why they keep making the consumer level projectors in white.. That was one of the reasons I returned my Epson 5030.
If I had to guess it would be so it won't look out-of-place on a white ceiling. Fot those of us with projectors in our living rooms and not darkened home theaters this is actually kind of nice.
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First, go look at a 77" OLED together and ask for the price...
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I didn't know you could eshift with LCD. I thought it required LCOS/LCOQ unless they're using a different method.



Where did you get 700/800 calibrated lumen numbers?
This is a guestimate on my part, but I bet it will be real close.
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How have the Epson lamps held up compared to JVC as far as longevity and light loss over time?
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I see they added a" new auto-iris and lens-iris designs" and new optical engine. Did the previous models have an auto-iris?

It sounds like the 6040UB is set-up to compete against the JVC RS400, but that will be tough match I think but we'll see. with the new components, it should be very interesting. The 4040 might be a great budget unit especially if the street price is lower.
Powered lens with lens memory is new this year. Opens up the Epson to be used with scope screens. Sony is going to need to step up or they are going to be left behind in this segment, since both Epson and JVC will have lens memory on under 4K projectors.
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This is a guestimate on my part, but I bet it will be real close.
It's hard to believe in this day and age Epson would attempt to claim 2500 lumens when the actual calibrated lumens is 700/800 (maybe this was the norm a few years ago). A more recent example for Epson is the LS10000 which is 1500 lumens advertised, and 1000/1100 lumens calibrated depending on which review you believe.
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Powered lens with lens memory is new this year. Opens up the Epson to be used with scope screens. Sony is going to need to step up or they are going to be left behind in this segment, since both Epson and JVC will have lens memory on under 4K projectors.
Not to mention Sony has to prove they have solved the engine block degradation issue (in my book anyway).
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Did some research : If the 5030UB's input lag is anything to go by, the 5040 should have decent enough input lag in "fast" mode (37ms):

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...ge=Performance
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It's hard to believe in this day and age Epson would attempt to claim 2500 lumens when the actual calibrated lumens is 700/800 (maybe this was the norm a few years ago). A more recent example for Epson is the LS10000 which is 1500 lumens advertised, and 1000/1100 lumens calibrated depending on which review you believe.
Epson 5030 has manufacturer spec of 2,400 lumens, yet has 700/800 calibrated lumens. The 5040 is the replacement for the 5030 and has manufactured spec of 2,500 lumens.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/j...sku=V11H585020
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