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I`ve also updated mine to the latest 5.003 fw and the update process went smoothly. As said before, it adds the HDR menu with support for HLG. I haven`t been able to test any HLG material yet but i did find some demo clips here: http://4kmedia.org/?s=hlg
Will try these later.

And regarding banding, i tried several 10bit 60p demo clips today and looked very close for banding. I saw something that resembles to banding in one of the clips with a cloud scene and i`m not 100% sure if it was originally in the video or if the projector was the cause but in all the other clips, i couldn`t see anything that looked similar to banding.
Even before i installed the 5.003 fw, i have never seen any banding with 60p material before so this was the first time i saw something but again, i am not sure if the video was poorly encoded and thus causing what looked like banding.

I don`t have the PS4 Pro so i can`t say anything whether the banding is still present for games but maybe someone else can try this and confirm?
When I ran the VW675 and RS600 side by side for months I never saw banding on one that was not present on the other. So there is source material and situations that will cause banding . Whether or not it was from some combination of my cables, AV equipment or the source I have no idea , just know I would see it on both . I went through a lot of material of every kind and tried to push the limits, did not make any difference .

I see more in 3D when running 4K and FI all at once , even then it's not constant, just something that appears more than 2D .

I got use to the mosquito noise the RS600 produced after a while I tuned it out and just enjoyed the rest of what was good. Some things you just have to accept is an integrate part of the picture . My flat panels are not immune to little
issues either, depending on the source there are still artifacts . Even the top tier projectors are not perfect , just the way it is , nothing is perfect .

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Hi everybody,

My first post, and I'm hoping somebody can corroborate what I'm seeing independently on HDR, and/or provide some advice.

I have the Sony VPL-VW550ES with the new AppleTV 4k and in between a Denon AVR-X6300H amplifier - all the components are connected with Monster Black Platinum Ultimate High Speed 4K HDMI Cables running at 27Gbps. My component devices are 1m cable runs from the Amp and the Projector is a 15m run from the Amp - using the some Monster Black line. I also have Sky Q and presume the cables are ok as in full 4k with 10bits.

Basically, I don't have any problems with 4k - the images are vibrant as I would expect, ...but as soon as I go into HDR the whole image looks flat, dull, diminished and has large amounts of colour banding (especially when you move the application panels around on the Apple TV.)

I've upgrade to the latest 5.003 firmware in the Sony VPL-VW550ES projector and 0340-6946-2351-1524 in the Denon Amp.

I understand that projectors don't have the same NIT output as a LED TV, but should it be normal that the screen diminishes in the overall brightness so much? I can understand if the Sony Projector is remapping the luminance levels so that it keeps some headroom in HDR to punch out a brighter picture where the upper reference values of HDR require it, but overall the experience is like somebody has reduced brightness/contrast a lot and really not in any way a great experience.

I have tried different settings on the projector and reset the existing picture profiles but nothing has helped. The information panel on the projector shows I'm in HDR10 with BT.2020 when in HDR on 4k (but with a massive dim picture) and shows YCbCr 4:2:0 BT.709 when in SDR on 4k from the Apple TV.

Strangely when the Apple TV shows its Aerial screen saver - those images are bright even in HDR - but only those video loops. I've also connected the Apple TV to the projector directly (by passing the Denon Amp) but that makes no difference either.

I feel really disappointed that the images look so horrible in HDR - I can't understand why....any guidance?

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Hi everybody,

My first post, and I'm hoping somebody can corroborate what I'm seeing independently on HDR, and/or provide some advice.

I have the Sony VPL-VW550ES with the new AppleTV 4k and in between a Denon AVR-X6300H amplifier - all the components are connected with Monster Black Platinum Ultimate High Speed 4K HDMI Cables running at 27Gbps. My component devices are 1m cable runs from the Amp and the Projector is a 15m run from the Amp - using the some Monster Black line. I also have Sky Q and presume the cables are ok as in full 4k with 10bits.

Basically, I don't have any problems with 4k - the images are vibrant as I would expect, ...but as soon as I go into HDR the whole image looks flat, dull, diminished and has large amounts of colour banding (especially when you move the application panels around on the Apple TV.)

I've upgrade to the latest 5.003 firmware in the Sony VPL-VW550ES projector and 0340-6946-2351-1524 in the Denon Amp.

I understand that projectors don't have the same NIT output as a LED TV, but should it be normal that the screen diminishes in the overall brightness so much? I can understand if the Sony Projector is remapping the luminance levels so that it keeps some headroom in HDR to punch out a brighter picture where the upper reference values of HDR require it, but overall the experience is like somebody has reduced brightness/contrast a lot and really not in any way a great experience.

I have tried different settings on the projector and reset the existing picture profiles but nothing has helped. The information panel on the projector shows I'm in HDR10 with BT.2020 when in HDR on 4k (but with a massive dim picture) and shows YCbCr 4:2:0 BT.709 when in SDR on 4k from the Apple TV.

Strangely when the Apple TV shows its Aerial screen saver - those images are bright even in HDR - but only those video loops. I've also connected the Apple TV to the projector directly (by passing the Denon Amp) but that makes no difference either.

I feel really disappointed that the images look so horrible in HDR - I can't understand why....any guidance?

Thanks
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There was a write up on the verge about the new Apple TV 4K. Apparently there are a few HDR bugs with some of the 3rd party app developers like Netflix, etc. Supposedly they are working on updates to deal with the issues.

Have you tried one of the iTunes 4K HDR movies? Supposedly those work properly. There were some reports that the Marvel movies were also dim.

At this point in time it is hard to tell if there is anyway for you make a correction. You might just have to wait for the next update of TVOS from Apple.
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Could you also state what streaming app you are using and what video output settings, as we try to understand their effects? Thanks.

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There was a write up on the verge about the new Apple TV 4K. Apparently there are a few HDR bugs with some of the 3rd party app developers like Netflix, etc. Supposedly they are working on updates to deal with the issues.

Have you tried one of the iTunes 4K HDR movies? Supposedly those work properly. There were some reports that the Marvel movies were also dim.

At this point in time it is hard to tell if there is anyway for you make a correction. You might just have to wait for the next update of TVOS from Apple.
Actually, I'm not using Netflix - this was just my view from the main Apple TV 4k menu in which the application tiles are shown and film selection screen interface - its noticeably darker when in HDR than SDR, and you get banding on the tiles when you move and enable that pseudo-3D tilt effect. Its rather horrible to be honest.

I've attached two pic, the first (bright one) when SDR is enabled in 4k and the dim one when HDR enabled. THese were taken during the day but you can see the colours on the HDR pic less vibrant and the overall brightness much worse than the SDR one.
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Could you also state what streaming app you are using and what video output settings, as we try to understand their effects? Thanks.

I'm not using any stream app; just the main interface of the Apple TV 4k - see pics on posting above.
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I'm not using any stream app; just the main interface of the Apple TV 4k - see pics on posting above.
To me, the bright SDR picture looks very washed out, while the HDR looks crisp, with better contrast, but dim as noticed.

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HDR content noticeably dim/bland on AppleTV 4k

In follow up to the post above, here are a selection of pics of HDR enabled on a Apple TV 4K on the VPL-VW550ES with firmware 5.003.
You will see the HDR pics are less vibrant and much dimmer from their SDR counterparts.

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In follow up to the post above, here are a selection of pics of HDR enabled on a Apple TV 4K on the VPL-VW550ES with firmware 5.003.
You will see the HDR pics are less vibrant and much dimmer from their SDR counterparts.

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With pics this time - sorry the first batch were too large to upload. See titles for description as to whether HDR or SDR.
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To me, the bright SDR picture looks very washed out, while the HDR looks crisp, with better contrast, but dim as noticed.
Try the new pics i uploaded...would you think HDR still better?
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I wasn't trying to debate the dim HDR images. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

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With pics this time - sorry the first batch were too large to upload. See titles for description as to whether HDR or SDR.

You're seriously comparing the images using a wall with no screen with horrible ambient light washing out the entire image???
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You're seriously comparing the images using a wall with no screen with horrible ambient light washing out the entire image???
Agree that is not the best test environment but look at the relative image. The HDR is terrible compared to SDR. I have five Apple computers in my house, four iPads, and five iPhones (family of 5) but Apple can really screw up home entertainment (HDR broken and Dolby Atmos not enabled). I am sure they will fix this issue but I can't help but think if Steve Jobs was still alive, this would never have happened.

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With pics this time - sorry the first batch were too large to upload. See titles for description as to whether HDR or SDR.
Thanks for the pics. HDR looks terrible relative to the SDR. Let's hope Apple fixes this soon. I have one on order as well but only hope to use it to watch trailers and stream my home movies over Plex.

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Agree that is not the best test environment but look at the relative image. The HDR is terrible compared to SDR. ........

You can't because that terrible environment hurts SDR less so than it does HDR. HDR prides itself on blacks and deep shadow detail and high specular highlights, all of which are destroyed in that scenario. SDR has a more compact dynamic range from black to white with less steps in between.
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You can't because that terrible environment hurts SDR less so than it does HDR. HDR prides itself on blacks and deep shadow detail and high specular highlights, all of which are destroyed in that scenario. SDR has a more compact dynamic range from black to white with less steps in between.
It does look like the lighting changed in the room. Maybe we can agree that the HDR appears to be broken on Apple TV?

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It does look like the lighting changed in the room. Maybe we can agree that the HDR appears to be broken on Apple TV?

Oh I have no idea one way or the other as I haven't researched that device in the least. I'm just saying you can't compare them in that environment in my humble opinion.
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i just purchased a ps4 pro and got excited thinking that all my games could be played on 4k, not! when i play a 4k game like horizon zero dawn the ps4 pro output 1080p 60hz res but when i play a 1080p game the PS4 pro upscale it to 2160p 60hz. on the ps4 pro setting the res output is 2160p then i tried putting it to auto still no go. on the receiver which is the denon 7200wa the video conversion/processing is off. all of the receiver hdmi output is HDCP 2.2 and the pj which is the sony vw320es input is HDCP 2.2. all my hdmi cables are 2.0.
i understand that this pj supports only 2160p 60hz 4:2:0 8 bit.(correct me if im wrong)

my question is when i play a 4k game why does the ps4 pro output 1080p 60hz instead of 2160p 60hz?
Is it because my pj hdmi input is 10gbps? Does it has to be 18gbps?

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My first post, and I'm hoping somebody can corroborate what I'm seeing independently on HDR, and/or provide some advice.



I have the Sony VPL-VW550ES with the new AppleTV 4k and in between a Denon AVR-X6300H amplifier - all the components are connected with Monster Black Platinum Ultimate High Speed 4K HDMI Cables running at 27Gbps. My component devices are 1m cable runs from the Amp and the Projector is a 15m run from the Amp - using the some Monster Black line. I also have Sky Q and presume the cables are ok as in full 4k with 10bits.



Basically, I don't have any problems with 4k - the images are vibrant as I would expect, ...but as soon as I go into HDR the whole image looks flat, dull, diminished and has large amounts of colour banding (especially when you move the application panels around on the Apple TV.)



I've upgrade to the latest 5.003 firmware in the Sony VPL-VW550ES projector and 0340-6946-2351-1524 in the Denon Amp.



I understand that projectors don't have the same NIT output as a LED TV, but should it be normal that the screen diminishes in the overall brightness so much? I can understand if the Sony Projector is remapping the luminance levels so that it keeps some headroom in HDR to punch out a brighter picture where the upper reference values of HDR require it, but overall the experience is like somebody has reduced brightness/contrast a lot and really not in any way a great experience.



I have tried different settings on the projector and reset the existing picture profiles but nothing has helped. The information panel on the projector shows I'm in HDR10 with BT.2020 when in HDR on 4k (but with a massive dim picture) and shows YCbCr 4:2:0 BT.709 when in SDR on 4k from the Apple TV.



Strangely when the Apple TV shows its Aerial screen saver - those images are bright even in HDR - but only those video loops. I've also connected the Apple TV to the projector directly (by passing the Denon Amp) but that makes no difference either.



I feel really disappointed that the images look so horrible in HDR - I can't understand why....any guidance?



Thanks

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Not confirmed but I believe the Monster Cable doesn't do HDR or at least not correctly. I know the specs match up but those were made before HDR came out. Best Buy no longer sells them. Try skipping it and let me know the results as I'd like to know.


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Not confirmed but I believe the Monster Cable doesn't do HDR or at least not correctly. I know the specs match up but those were made before HDR came out. Best Buy no longer sells them. Try skipping it and let me know the results as I'd like to know.


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I see similar color banding on the VW385ES in the 60Hz HDR mode, but significantly less in the 24Hz HDR mode. Do you see the same thing on the VW550ES?
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I took a chance and just updated my VPL-VW675ES with the 550 firmware from the Finnish Sony website.
It worked.
The info screen shows FW version 5.003 now. It also shows the color format and HDR format as mentioned in the notes.
The new (5.003) firmware has finally been posted on Sony's U.S. website:
https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/swu-d...os_group_id=18
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The new (5.003) firmware has finally been posted on Sony's U.S. website:
https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/swu-d...os_group_id=18
Being impatient, I attempted the update, but I have a Mac and nothing is happening on the projector.
I followed the excellent detailed instructions to convert the USB to FAT32 and placed the .bin file exactly as instructed. Know others had Mac issues, but my question is what happens during the update?
That is other than the flashing light, which mine is not doing at the moment, with the projector started with the USB inserted, are there any other indications?
The warnings not to remove the USB and not to power down, prompted me to post this...
Is it OK to power down?
On the screen the HDMI2 input light is written, so I presume it is OK.

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While I was typing the post, the projector went into POWER SAVING mode, which then has a flashing light. Now I am unsure if the flashing light is doing the update...or just awaiting to be brought out of this mode.

Again, afraid to power down or up. I will wait 15 minutes and then see what happens.

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It finally shut off on its own, so no update. Tried again, same result. Will wait until I can get to a Windows machine at the end of the month.

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Again,the update should work on a Mac downloaded file and FAT32 formatted USB. What I noticed was that the file type was MacBinary. Did not find hidden files. Presume it might be the auto unzip, so I will try with a different unzip program. Any Mac advice appreciated.

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Again,the update should work on a Mac downloaded file and FAT32 formatted USB. What I noticed was that the file type was MacBinary. Did not find hidden files. Presume it might be the auto unzip, so I will try with a different unzip program. Any Mac advice appreciated.
Do you have parallels software on your mac? If you do it is best to fire up windows on your mac, format the USB drive from the windows side, and move the file over from windows.

Did you check for hidden files but going to the terminal, cd ing to the USB Drive, and issuing an ls -al command in the terminal window? That is the best way to see hidden .xxx files.
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Nothing Windows related on my machine...do see hidden files...first 3 below.

.fseventsd
.Spotlight-V100
.Trashes
00052900_003e0000.bin

I was able to delet the top 2 files and now have this USB:

.Trashes
00052900_003e0000.bin

Maybe I should try again with these?

(If not, I need to wait until I get to a Windows machine at work) This shouldn't matter as there really is no HLG content...I can wait.

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Nothing Windows related on my machine...do see hidden files...first 3 below.

.fseventsd
.Spotlight-V100
.Trashes
00052900_003e0000.bin

I was able to delet the top 2 files and now have this USB:

.Trashes
00052900_003e0000.bin

Maybe I should try again with these?

(If not, I need to wait until I get to a Windows machine at work) This shouldn't matter as there really is no HLG content...I can wait.
You might need to delete the .Trashes file. If it is protected you will need to change to the superuser and issue a chmod -R 777 .Trashes command. Then you should be able to delete the .Trashes with rm - R .Trashes command.

Usually you can change to superuser with the "sudo" command. It should prompt you for a password. Give it your root password. If you don't have superuser set up on your mac you can google "activating superuser with mac OS X". There should be detailed instructions somewhere. I hope that helps you.
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Lot's to try...will get to it...but no googling anything ever...there are safer ways I am sure you meant "searching" like xeroxing vs. copying.

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