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Screen Question,
I have a 675es that sony shipped me refurbed because they could not fix my 665es

I want to get some more contrast out of it esp in dark space scenes.
has anyone uses this High Contrast Screen before?
I have total control of the room light, I just want to get some better blacks.
we use it with 3d and 4k a lot

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Screen Question,
I have a 675es that sony shipped me refurbed because they could not fix my 665es

I want to get some more contrast out of it esp in dark space scenes.
has anyone uses this High Contrast Screen before?
I have total control of the room light, I just want to get some better blacks.
we use it with 3d and 4k a lot

thanks
Keith


https://www.amazon.com/STR-169120-G-...ay&sr=8-4&th=1
It is mainly the gain that helps, and that is .95, so if your old one was say 1.1 it would give better black i believe.
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It is mainly the gain that helps, and that is .95, so if your old one was say 1.1 it would give better black i believe.
Agreed, I have a white 1.1 now and it pops, but the dark scenes I can never get it down enough with out crushing the black
just want to get people's real world experiences

what kind of screen do you have? and what is your experience

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I also see some people talk about black screens are the best, any feedback there?

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Agreed, I have a white 1.1 now and it pops, but the dark scenes I can never get it down enough with out crushing the black
just want to get people's real world experiences

what kind of screen do you have? and what is your experience

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Mine is 1.1. And any stray light in the room, LEDs, displays, anything, have the most effect. I run on low lamp, 115".
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Hi, Is vw675ES outdated or still OK?


I found a B-stock VW675ES on ebay for good price and I bought it (I hesitated about vw295ES, almost bought that one)


Receiver: Yamaha RX685
Blue Ray : Sony UDP-X800M2


Do you guys see any problems with this setup?


We mostly watch Netflix and Amazon Prime.


Do you guys see any big potential problems?


thanks..
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Hi, Is vw675ES outdated or still OK?


I found a B-stock VW675ES on ebay for good price and I bought it (I hesitated about vw295ES, almost bought that one)


Receiver: Yamaha RX685
Blue Ray : Sony UDP-X800M2


Do you guys see any problems with this setup?


We mostly watch Netflix and Amazon Prime.


Do you guys see any big potential problems?


thanks..
Well if you are a disc based media fan, like me, no issues. 4k HDR 60Hz content though it is not full 18Gbps bandwidth processing, so you will get banding. Do if you have a proper streaming device that supports native framerates, like an AppleTV and a few others, it won't affect streamed 4k material that is natively 24p, but it will for 60p content. The vast majority of streaming devices force 60p for EVERYTHING though. Often due to netflix themselves.

I still think it is a fantastic projector - and my only reason I'll use to upgrade is wanting a laser based model. The 60p doesn't worry my though as personally I am no fan of 60p.
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Well if you are a disc based media fan, like me, no issues. 4k HDR 60Hz content though it is not full 18Gbps bandwidth processing, so you will get banding. Do if you have a proper streaming device that supports native framerates, like an AppleTV and a few others, it won't affect streamed 4k material that is natively 24p, but it will for 60p content. The vast majority of streaming devices force 60p for EVERYTHING though. Often due to netflix themselves.

I still think it is a fantastic projector - and my only reason I'll use to upgrade is wanting a laser based model. The 60p doesn't worry my though as personally I am no fan of 60p.


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Netflix and Amazon Prime : I have an Amazon 4 K box (that is 2 years old). Shall I replace it with Apple TV? (I see that there was a firmware update for vw675ES- for apple TV- in February 2019)
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Netflix and Amazon Prime : I have an Amazon 4 K box (that is 2 years old). Shall I replace it with Apple TV? (I see that there was a firmware update for vw675ES- for apple TV- in February 2019)
Personally, I believe so. Anyone investing in a projector should be interested in preserving frame rates of source material. 24p to 60p is the equivalent of NTSC pull down, and is a direct descendant of it, literally both in effect, and origin, !watching broadcast. It is an anachronism that has no business being put on 24p material.
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Personally, I believe so. Anyone investing in a projector should be interested in preserving frame rates of source material. 24p to 60p is the equivalent of NTSC pull down, and is a direct descendant of it, literally both in effect, and origin, !watching broadcast. It is an anachronism that has no business being put on 24p material.
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Streaming: So, Apple TV 4k would be able to give the best images for streaming for this?
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Streaming: So, Apple TV 4k would be able to give the best images for streaming for this?
Yes, or possibly one of the other units that support native frame rates. I've no experience with them though.
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Yes, or possibly one of the other units that support native frame rates. I've no experience with them though.



Thanks. ordered apple tv 4k (5th generatrion) . 6th generation may be coming very soon, but not definite. The latest firmware from 2/2019 should help with the apple TV I guess.


3D eye glasses: tdg-bt500a? This was the recommendation 3 years ago. Is Xpand better? Does anyone have any experience with this? (we are not crazy about 3D, but may be fun for the kids)


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Thanks. ordered apple tv 4k (5th generatrion) . 6th generation may be coming very soon, but not definite. The latest firmware from 2/2019 should help with the apple TV I guess.


3D eye glasses: tdg-bt500a? This was the recommendation 3 years ago. Is Xpand better? Does anyone have any experience with this? (we are not crazy about 3D, but may be fun for the kids)


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Definitely the Xpand XRF01! They are nicer - and rechargeable.

Yeah 3D is fantastic on a projector. I still watch and rewatch a lot.
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3D: Xpand XRF01: I bought 2...nice, but a little dark.

Can you guys help me with these?
1) I bought the Apple 4 K box, but it is not passing 4K/60. what exact video settings do you guys use for apple TV? (amazon fire 4K seems to be as good)
2) Upscaling: do you do this at the level of the Blu-ray player or at the level of the projector (by turning off the upscaling function of the Blueray player) the reason I am asking is even if the Blu-ray player upscales, it is limited at 13.5Gb and not real 4K/60. Would it better to leave upscaling to the projector?


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3D: Xpand XRF01: I bought 2...nice, but a little dark.

Can you guys help me with these?
1) I bought the Apple 4 K box, but it is not passing 4K/60. what exact video settings do you guys use for apple TV? (amazon fire 4K seems to be as good)
2) Upscaling: do you do this at the level of the Blu-ray player or at the level of the projector (by turning off the upscaling function of the Blueray player) the reason I am asking is even if the Blu-ray player upscales, it is limited at 13.5Gb and not real 4K/60. Would it better to leave upscaling to the projector?


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If you need 60 frames per second, you'll need to output at 8 bits, otherwise set output to 24 frames per second.

The Sony is likely better at upscaling, plus you can use other features such as motion flow

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If you need 60 frames per second, you'll need to output at 8 bits, otherwise set output to 24 frames per second.

The Sony is likely better at upscaling, plus you can use other features such as motion flow

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My advice would be to set frame rate to 30p instead of 60p if your source will let you.

You will get full 4:4:4 12 bit HDR support in that mode so no banding.

Also I would let the projectors RC do the upscaling given the choice.
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