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Should the projector switch into a 3D mode when it receives a 3D signal?, because mine just stays in the same picture mode.
Yes, as already said it should detect a 3D blu Ray and then you can adjust settings accordingly which it will store for the next 3D watch.

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Just curious.. Has anyone upgraded from the 620 to the 640? Any benefit?

Also, when watching 1:85 on a 2:35 screen, how do i align it properly? Do i use the Shift/zoom method until i get an image then save it ?

Thank you...
From looking in the owners thread for the RS640/540 it seems like the main advantage would be functioning CMD with Low Latency. Right now the CMD fix on the RSx20 lineup introduces issues with Low Latency mode. So if you like CMD and are bothered by the banding that shows up in some scenes with the original software, the fix will make low latency mode unusable. However if you don't use CMD and do not have the fix performed low latency mode works fine. JVC is supposed to be working on a fix for this, but right now that's where we're at. Other differences e-shift 4 vs. e-shift 5 and a functioning DI with 4K material. The differences in e-shift are subtle and I wouldn't say it's worth taking the hit to trade up for it. The DI not working in 4K on the RSx20 lineup can be fixed with a HDFury Linker (~$200). If I was buying new and the price differential was small, the RS640 would be an easy pick. But since you're likely to take a decent hit on resale, I'd just stick with the RS620.

Yup you do exactly that with the 1.85:1 picture. You can either measure the distance from the alignment grid to the screen border or use a centralized point (I use the tweeter on the center) to center it. And then just save the memory position.

Hi jeahrens,
Thanks for your answers again.

One more question, it seems jvc 640 has good hdr "out of the box". Does the 620 have equal hdr as well. Do you need to put in custom gamma curves? Or other calibration.

I guess bottom line, is it HDR capable AND equivalent to a 640.

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Selecting User Picture Mode via Automation?

Hey guys,

Does anyone have a slick solution for selecting User Picture Modes via automation? I'm currently using a Harmony Elite/Hub to control my theater room, and I'd like to default the JVC into a specific picture mode based on my activity. I can't use the picture modes like Natural or Cinema that are available directly on the remote (and in the Harmony remote codes) because they don't allow user color profiles.

Things I've tried:

I can use custom activity steps in the harmony to select a standard mode (e.g. Natural), send the picture mode popup, arrow up/down the correct number of times, send OK, then send BACK to close the popup at the end. This is a pretty ugly workaround, and due to the long sync times with the JVC I have to insert 10-15 sec delays after both mode switches, plus 1 sec delays after the picture mode popup and direction keys. I've already decided I'd rather just use the remote to select the mode manually than go this route.

I've looked into RS232 commands and found the command to set the projector to a user picture mode, but I haven't yet looked into how to integrate my Harmony hub with an RS232 controller (but I'm sure that's been done).

Any help or direction is much appreciated, and sorry if this has already been discussed. A few searches in this thread didn't turn anything up.

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Does anyone have a slick solution for selecting User Picture Modes via automation? I'm currently using a Harmony Elite/Hub to control my theater room, and I'd like to default the JVC into a specific picture mode based on my activity. I can't use the picture modes like Natural or Cinema that are available directly on the remote (and in the Harmony remote codes) because they don't allow user color profiles.
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I currently use the Harmony device profile for the DLA-X55 (I don't know the corresponding RS-Model). With this I have three direct accessible user presets for my X9500 or X5000.
You could even use the device profile for the DLA-X30 to have five user presets accessible with your Harmony.

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Yes, as already said it should detect a 3D blu Ray and then you can adjust settings accordingly which it will store for the next 3D watch.
When I send it a 3d(FP) signal from my murideo, the info window on the JVC does show 1080(FP). But it doesn't "go" into a special 3D mode, like it does when I send it HDR from the murideo.

Should it go into high lamp automaticly?. The manual says it should.

I have bypassed my receiver(denon avr4311) which is a 3D receiver. But connecting directly to the projector yielded the same results.
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Just curious.. Has anyone upgraded from the 620 to the 640? Any benefit?

Also, when watching 1:85 on a 2:35 screen, how do i align it properly? Do i use the Shift/zoom method until i get an image then save it ?

Thank you...
From looking in the owners thread for the RS640/540 it seems like the main advantage would be functioning CMD with Low Latency. Right now the CMD fix on the RSx20 lineup introduces issues with Low Latency mode. So if you like CMD and are bothered by the banding that shows up in some scenes with the original software, the fix will make low latency mode unusable. However if you don't use CMD and do not have the fix performed low latency mode works fine. JVC is supposed to be working on a fix for this, but right now that's where we're at. Other differences e-shift 4 vs. e-shift 5 and a functioning DI with 4K material. The differences in e-shift are subtle and I wouldn't say it's worth taking the hit to trade up for it. The DI not working in 4K on the RSx20 lineup can be fixed with a HDFury Linker (~$200). If I was buying new and the price differential was small, the RS640 would be an easy pick. But since you're likely to take a decent hit on resale, I'd just stick with the RS620.

Yup you do exactly that with the 1.85:1 picture. You can either measure the distance from the alignment grid to the screen border or use a centralized point (I use the tweeter on the center) to center it. And then just save the memory position.

Hi jeahrens,
Thanks for your answers again.

One more question, it seems jvc 640 has good hdr "out of the box". Does the 620 have equal hdr as well. Do you need to put in custom gamma curves? Or other calibration.

I guess bottom line, is it HDR capable AND equivalent to a 640.

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There has been mention of a patch in the works to address the cmd low latency thing.

When trying to sort out upgrading from a 620, you might have to reflect on the quality of the 620 as far as convergence, lens clarity and stuck pixels. If you have a very good 620 sample, while the 640 does offer significant improvements, there are far to many quality control issues being reported with the 640/990/9900, such that you might not want to take the risk. Or at least don't sell the 620 until you can confirm what kind of 640 you receive.

That may sound harsh, but in light i f what is being reported, it is justified.

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Hi guys , i m planning on upgrading my Optoma UHD60 to the RS440, i never owned a jvc before so this will be my first.
My question is if both can be had at the same price do u think its better to get the RS520? My room is 60-70% treated with black velvet but not a complete bat cave. I keep reading about some issues with the 520, i game a lot using my pc ar 4k 60 andps4 pro, i watch 4k blurays with my sony x800d and i like FI with movies.
Based on my situation, which one would be a better buy for me.
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Hi guys , i m planning on upgrading my Optoma UHD60 to the RS440, i never owned a jvc before so this will be my first.
My question is if both can be had at the same price do u think its better to get the RS520? My room is 60-70% treated with black velvet but not a complete bat cave. I keep reading about some issues with the 520, i game a lot using my pc ar 4k 60 andps4 pro, i watch 4k blurays with my sony x800d and i like FI with movies.
Based on my situation, which one would be a better buy for me.
Thanks a lot.
The CMD fix broke 4k gaming on the X20 models. I wouldn't count on a fix until it's actually fixed. If you have to buy now, I'd go with a new X40 model.
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I'd avoid fine adjustments. Full pixel yes.
What is your reasoning behind not using the fine adjustments? They do a pretty good job and zoning in on smaller problem areas.

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Hi guys , i m planning on upgrading my Optoma UHD60 to the RS440, i never owned a jvc before so this will be my first.
My question is if both can be had at the same price do u think its better to get the RS520? My room is 60-70% treated with black velvet but not a complete bat cave. I keep reading about some issues with the 520, i game a lot using my pc ar 4k 60 andps4 pro, i watch 4k blurays with my sony x800d and i like FI with movies.
Based on my situation, which one would be a better buy for me.
Thanks a lot.
Until the CMD/eshift/low latency thing is worked out, I would just hold my breath if you are contemplating any of the x20's machines and wait to see how it all shakes out. Gaming as you do currently, and liking FI, it absolutely will not be the machine for you at the current time. Hopefully a patch will fix the problem.

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The CMD fix broke 4k gaming on the X20 models. I wouldn't count on a fix until it's actually fixed. If you have to buy now, I'd go with a new X40 model.
What it actually broke ? What is the issue that was introduced with the cmd fix.
Yeah that would be a deal breaker for me and i would definitely go for rs440.

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Actually latest reply kind of answered my question, thanks guys for ur help, it looks like the rs440 is the one for me then.
Much appreciate the help.

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Pretty excited....Have a 520 coming tomorrow from AV Science. I've been largely out of the hobby for about 12 years. My last projector was a JVC G11 with a huge whisperquiet hushbox. Since there are over 4000 posts in this topic, anybody know of a post or post(s) that provides some helpful startup information re initial settings, quirks, calibration, (autocalibration?) etc.? I hope to have it mounted by the end of the day tomorrow. ANY info you could provide would be helpful.

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The CMD fix broke 4k gaming on the X20 models. I wouldn't count on a fix until it's actually fixed. If you have to buy now, I'd go with a new X40 model.
Unless you find a used x20 model that never got the new cmd fix. I believe the fix (or lack there of) came out around the end of Sept
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Unless you find a used x20 model that never got the new cmd fix. I believe the fix (or lack there of) came out around the end of Sept
True, but then you have a broken CMD. If you don't care about CMD though and can find a pre fix X20, that would be a good option.
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True, but then you have a broken CMD. If you don't care about CMD though and can find a pre fix X20, that would be a good option.
I don't use CMD so I didn't even think about that. Good point
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Hi All,

I'm looking for someone to calibrate my RS620. Anyone know of a good person around the Houston/Spring/conroe/woodlands area? I live in the woodlands.

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I'm looking for someone to calibrate my RS620. Anyone know of a good person around the Houston/Spring/conroe/woodlands area? I live in the woodlands.

Thank you,
I'm not sure about Houston area specifically, but these calibrators have gear, will travel:

Chadb - http://www.hdtvbychadb.com/
Craig Rounds - http://www.cir-engineering.com/calibration-equipment/
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Does this series of projectors have a warmup time that is needed for doing the (mechanical) and optical setup?
I noticed a few times that after setting it up properly, i had to do it again the next day... If you guys set it up, how often do you need to re-adjust shift/zoom/focus?

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Chadb - http://www.hdtvbychadb.com/
Craig Rounds - http://www.cir-engineering.com/calibration-equipment/
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Does this series of projectors have a warmup time that is needed for doing the (mechanical) and optical setup?
I noticed a few times that after setting it up properly, i had to do it again the next day... If you guys set it up, how often do you need to re-adjust shift/zoom/focus?
Wait until the unit is on at least 45 min or so to dial in a final sharpness. I rarely have to refocus my JVCs. I do have to tweak shift slightly on most power ups, but that's because my subs knock the lens out of alignment slightly.
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maybe its the content ive been watching but ive noticed more "motion judder" recently. i know its usually best to keep all motion options turned off because it can cause the soap opera effect, but what do you guys typically set your projectors at? CMD or motion enhance? right now i have CMD off and motion enhance at Low but i still seem to be struggling with more judder. any suggestions?

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HELP!!! Hello and happy holidays all. I am struggling mightily with trying to get my RS-620 software updated. I am getting a constant "communication error". I have spent two hours attempting and want to jump of a ledge. I am using the recommended Triplight RS232 Adapter with no other interconnects other than the female adapter at the projector. I have set the communication rate at the com port at 57600 and have tried 3 different laptops using Windows-7.8, and 10. Still nothing. I have searched the forum and web multiple times and I know this is an issue but could really use an assist. All cables other than power are unplugged including my 3-d emitter. Unit light is in standby. I have unplugged the power, plugged in the RS232 and powered on, and nothing. Plugged in the RS232 with power on (standby) and nothing. Just communication errors. The Triplight is working fine. Would love some solid input!! Thanks in advance!

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HELP!!! Hello and happy holidays all. I am struggling mightily with trying to get my RS-620 software updated. I am getting a constant "communication error". I have spent two hours attempting and want to jump of a ledge. I am using the recommended Triplight RS232 Adapter with no other interconnects other than the female adapter at the projector. I have set the communication rate at the com port at 57600 and have tried 3 different laptops using Windows-7.8, and 10. Still nothing. I have searched the forum and web multiple times and I know this is an issue but could really use an assist. All cables other than power are unplugged including my 3-d emitter. Unit light is in standby. I have unplugged the power, plugged in the RS232 and powered on, and nothing. Plugged in the RS232 with power on (standby) and nothing. Just communication errors. The Triplight is working fine. Would love some solid input!! Thanks in advance!

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I did not have the Tripp Lite adapter, but an off-brand one, and could not get it to work via USB, so I dug out an old laptop that has an RS232 serial port. Used a DB9 null modem "crossover" cable and it all worked fine.

Is your DB9 female to female adapter a null-modem type? Maybe it should be?? They come both ways, and they look alike. When the RX and TX are reversed, you will get the communication error. I know -- I tried it both ways.

Notice the picture on page 3 of the instructions shows a USB adapter connected to a crossover cable. Worth a try.

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HELP!!! Hello and happy holidays all. I am struggling mightily with trying to get my RS-620 software updated. I am getting a constant "communication error". I have spent two hours attempting and want to jump of a ledge. I am using the recommended Triplight RS232 Adapter with no other interconnects other than the female adapter at the projector. I have set the communication rate at the com port at 57600 and have tried 3 different laptops using Windows-7.8, and 10. Still nothing. I have searched the forum and web multiple times and I know this is an issue but could really use an assist. All cables other than power are unplugged including my 3-d emitter. Unit light is in standby. I have unplugged the power, plugged in the RS232 and powered on, and nothing. Plugged in the RS232 with power on (standby) and nothing. Just communication errors. The Triplight is working fine. Would love some solid input!! Thanks in advance!

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I have tried to use a keyspan USB-serial adapter for calibration purposes.

Could not connect to the projector also....
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I did not have the Tripp Lite adapter, but an off-brand one, and could not get it to work via USB, so I dug out an old laptop that has an RS232 serial port. Used a DB9 null modem "crossover" cable and it all worked fine.

Is your DB9 female to female adapter a null-modem type? Maybe it should be?? They come both ways, and they look alike. When the RX and TX are reversed, you will get the communication error. I know -- I tried it both ways.

Notice the picture on page 3 of the instructions shows a USB adapter connected to a crossover cable. Worth a try.
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I have tried to use a keyspan USB-serial adapter for calibration purposes.

Could not connect to the projector also....
Thank you for the input. Not sure I can find a laptop with the RS232 port but will try. Obviously it REALLY should not be this difficult but it is what it is I guess. Thanks again for the tip and Happy New Year to all!

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Thank you for the input. Not sure I can find a laptop with the RS232 port but will try. Obviously it REALLY should not be this difficult but it is what it is I guess. Thanks again for the tip and Happy New Year to all!

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I have used the adapter to calibrate pioneer CCC plasma's in the past.

It always worked back then.

Happy newyear!.
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Thank you for the input. Not sure I can find a laptop with the RS232 port but will try. Obviously it REALLY should not be this difficult but it is what it is I guess.
I agree it is an antiquated method. I guess JVC agrees as the newest models have finally dropped it for USB IIRC.

It was impossible to find a DB9 crossover cable in my little town, so I used some RJ45 - DB9 adapters I had on hand and made my own. But crossover cables and adapters are cheap and readily available online. It's worth a try.


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...I am using the recommended Triplight RS232 Adapter...
I used this one with no problem: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

DTECH 10 ft USB to RS232 DB9 Female Serial Port Adapter Cable with FTDI Chipset Supports Windows 10, 8, 7 and Mac Linux
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I used this one with no problem: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

DTECH 10 ft USB to RS232 DB9 Female Serial Port Adapter Cable with FTDI Chipset Supports Windows 10, 8, 7 and Mac Linux
Ok, just placed an order for the Dtech. See what happens.
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Anybody noticed difference in audio quality while using his/her jvc projector? I get a huge peformance drops. Just unplug the projector and start a movie. Plug the jvc in and listnen again.
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