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What size screen and what fabric in your screen? Also what throw?
105", 15' throw and 1.0 gain...white. Elunevision Reference Studio 4k
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Hey all...so back in business as I purchased a 203 from pretty much the only Canadian dealer here in Toronto. Did the Beta update last night!



Now, I have the following setup...Apple TV (set to 4KHDR which effectively upscales everything to 4k HDR) in to OPPO, OPPO out to Denon S730 the Denon to X770 JVC. I have setup the OPPO with Off(BT2020) and luminance set to 300 - 400. I have either the Natural (or User 1) mode in JVC with BT2020 color space, HDR color temp (or 6500k), Custom 1 Gamma, set to 2.4. No adjustments to that Gamma. No adjustments to Brightness or Contrast. I have JVC Autocal these settings.



I am not seeing what some describe as "WOW"....."inky blacks"....."color popping". I do see a nice picture with what I believe to be more even and accurate colors. I had to turn my lamp to High (-5) for it to really look good as low lamp was "meh". I switched between OPPO modes 1-4 as well as adjusted the luminance slider and do see the effects of doing that.



Anyone else with Apple TV (or streaming device) that has similar setup and can share some settings?


Are you playing HDR content on the AppleTV?

If you have the latest firmware on the AppleTV you should match frame rate and range.
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From what you described, everything sounds correct with the settings. What do you see on the JVC info, when playing an HDR movie? How does a UHD HDR movie look and what is showing on the JVC info?
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If you have the latest firmware on the AppleTV you should match frame rate and range.
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From what you described, everything sounds correct with the settings. What do you see on the JVC info, when playing an HDR movie? How does a UHD HDR movie look and what is showing on the JVC info?
I had some time to play around with a bunch of settings last night. Here is what I have tested so far...yes, I do have the latest and am on public beta so had the match frame rate and dynamic range for a while.

Equipment: ATV4k - OPPO (HDR off BT2020, mode 2, 300 nit) - Denon AVR-S730 (enhanced passthrough HDMI) - JVC x770 (user 1 mode, BT2020 color space, HDR(6500) temp, high lamp (-7), auto 2 DI, color, contrast, bright all 0).

Now, the ATV allows the user to setup a million and one different video "resolutions" which is used for a) the main ATV interface and b) to scale ALL content (if match dynamic range is off). I have tested both 4k 60 HDR 4:2:2 and 4k 60 SDR 4:4:4 as the primary settings on the ATV. I used to keep dynamic range and frame rate match "OFF" so everything scaled, however, I decided to change both dynamic range and frame rate to match for my testing. As above I kept all the settings the exact same except for ATV. What I watch is really only 3 things...first, itunes movies (both HD 1080p and 4k HDR). Second, Netflix both HD 1080p and 4k HDR. Third, Bell Fibe (similar to Direct TV in US) app which is HD 1080p. So really a mix between regular HD shows and when available 4k HDR movies on itunes and Netflix.

First, with 4K 60 HDR 4:2:2. The main ATV menu is shown in 4k HDR (as it would auto switch JVC to HDR mode prior to Vertex). As I watch NON HDR stuff (which is mostly Bell TV and some movies non 4k HDR) the ATV actually upconverts the video to 4K HDR. It does NOT see the Bell Fibe app as anything but HDR because it's converted by ATV (ie no dynamic range matching occrus) The OPPO then sees this as HDR and does it's tone mapping output to JVC (which is set for SDR). Image was "meh" on most things, including HDR based movies from itunes.

Second, changed to 4k 60 SDR on the ATV. With JVC BT2020, gamma 2.4 the colors are WAY oversaturated...greens, reds especially. This is true only for NON HDR content like the main menu of ATV, Bell Fibe TV app, and any non HDR movie. I have calibrated both gamma (standard which will work with 2.4 custom) AND BT2020 so wondering why the oversaturation.

So..my next test tonight will be to set the video output of ATV to HD 1080o 60 as this is what non 4k (SDR or HDR) content is set at (itunes HD movies, HD Netflix and HD Fibe TV) and have the dynamic range match on. This SHOULD play 4k HDR content when presented on ATV and have the OPPO so the tone mapping.

Any other suggestions at this point? Overall, I did find that when I had set the ATV to 4k SDR, playing HDR content like Harry Potter from itunes looked AMAZING both color (brighter, vivid) and details/shadow compared to "custom" curves. I am trying to set it to work for all content somehow. Perhaps I need a true 1080p rec709 color space mode for all content but HDR and use my vertex to switch modes right out of the ATV, BEFORE the OPPO. Then if the content is HDR, it gets sent that to OPPO for tone mapping, JVC switches to my User 1 with BT2020.
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I had some time to play around with a bunch of settings last night. Here is what I have tested so far...yes, I do have the latest and am on public beta so had the match frame rate and dynamic range for a while.

Equipment: ATV4k - OPPO (HDR off BT2020, mode 2, 300 nit) - Denon AVR-S730 (enhanced passthrough HDMI) - JVC x770 (user 1 mode, BT2020 color space, HDR(6500) temp, high lamp (-7), auto 2 DI, color, contrast, bright all 0).

Now, the ATV allows the user to setup a million and one different video "resolutions" which is used for a) the main ATV interface and b) to scale ALL content (if match dynamic range is off). I have tested both 4k 60 HDR 4:2:2 and 4k 60 SDR 4:4:4 as the primary settings on the ATV. I used to keep dynamic range and frame rate match "OFF" so everything scaled, however, I decided to change both dynamic range and frame rate to match for my testing. As above I kept all the settings the exact same except for ATV. What I watch is really only 3 things...first, itunes movies (both HD 1080p and 4k HDR). Second, Netflix both HD 1080p and 4k HDR. Third, Bell Fibe (similar to Direct TV in US) app which is HD 1080p. So really a mix between regular HD shows and when available 4k HDR movies on itunes and Netflix.

First, with 4K 60 HDR 4:2:2. The main ATV menu is shown in 4k HDR (as it would auto switch JVC to HDR mode prior to Vertex). As I watch NON HDR stuff (which is mostly Bell TV and some movies non 4k HDR) the ATV actually upconverts the video to 4K HDR. It does NOT see the Bell Fibe app as anything but HDR because it's converted by ATV (ie no dynamic range matching occrus) The OPPO then sees this as HDR and does it's tone mapping output to JVC (which is set for SDR). Image was "meh" on most things, including HDR based movies from itunes.

Second, changed to 4k 60 SDR on the ATV. With JVC BT2020, gamma 2.4 the colors are WAY oversaturated...greens, reds especially. This is true only for NON HDR content like the main menu of ATV, Bell Fibe TV app, and any non HDR movie. I have calibrated both gamma (standard which will work with 2.4 custom) AND BT2020 so wondering why the oversaturation.

If not playing HDR content, the colors should look exaggerated. That setting is for HDR content only.

So..my next test tonight will be to set the video output of ATV to HD 1080o 60 as this is what non 4k (SDR or HDR) content is set at (itunes HD movies, HD Netflix and HD Fibe TV) and have the dynamic range match on. This SHOULD play 4k HDR content when presented on ATV and have the OPPO so the tone mapping.

Any other suggestions at this point? Overall, I did find that when I had set the ATV to 4k SDR, playing HDR content like Harry Potter from itunes looked AMAZING both color (brighter, vivid) and details/shadow compared to "custom" curves. I am trying to set it to work for all content somehow. Perhaps I need a true 1080p rec709 color space mode for all content but HDR and use my vertex to switch modes right out of the ATV, BEFORE the OPPO. Then if the content is HDR, it gets sent that to OPPO for tone mapping, JVC switches to my User 1 with BT2020.
You should have a JVC user setting for HDR and another JVC user setting for non HDR content.
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Hi, I own the JVC DLA-X7500BE here in Australia and I am thinking about upgrading the software. Currently it is on version W29.2 and now version u83.2 is available.
Is it necessary to use a null modem cable with an adaptor, such as the Tripplite or can I use a straight USB to null modem cable such as this one?

http://www.speedyshipping.com.au/epa...00000002023889

Thanks.
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Hi, I own the JVC DLA-X7500BE here in Australia and I am thinking about upgrading the software. Currently it is on version W29.2 and now version u83.2 is available.
Is it necessary to use a null modem cable with an adaptor, such as the Tripplite or can I use a straight USB to null modem cable such as this one?

http://www.speedyshipping.com.au/epa...00000002023889

Thanks.
Here are the notes I looked at for my JVC RS520 (US)...

FW update JVC 500/520

Need:
- laptop
- Null modem cable - eg
- USB serial adapter (female RS232 as JVC is male) - eg Tripp Lite Keyspan (model#: USA-19HS)
- upgrade software

System requirements:
Windows PC with .NET Framework 4.0 or higher installed
*Tested with Windows 7 (32/64-bit), Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) & Windows 10 (32/64-bit)

* RS-232C null-modem (cross) cable
* USB-to-RS232C adapter (required only for PCs without a built-in RS-232C serial port). A quality adapter is required that is capable of both positive and negative voltage levels. Some less expensive adapters may only provide positive voltage levels.

*Tested with Tripp Lite Keyspan (model#: USA-19HS) & Staples USB-Serial Adapter (Item: 837560)

I ordered
Order Number: 114-5296145-1692249
* StarTech.com USB to Serial Adapter - Null Modem - FTDI U


Procedure

1. Projector in standby mode (powered but not on)
2. Connect wires to RS232 on projector
3. Laptop

1. upgrade software
2. select correct COM port (can find under settings also)
3. browse and select update file
4. Status lights change to green/orange/red pattern
5. Done after a few minutes
6. Can turn on projector to check settings for confirmation


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Hi, I own the JVC DLA-X7500BE here in Australia and I am thinking about upgrading the software. Currently it is on version W29.2 and now version u83.2 is available.
Is it necessary to use a null modem cable with an adaptor, such as the Tripplite or can I use a straight USB to null modem cable such as this one?

http://www.speedyshipping.com.au/epa...00000002023889

Thanks.
Actually there is a cable that Jaycar sells that works flawlessly. No need to order from the states.

https://www.jaycar.com.au/usb-to-db9...-1-5m/p/XC4834
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I tried the cable that Javs recommended but unfortunately it did not work with my laptop. The upgrader software worked and recognized that something was plugged into com4 but then I got the "connection error" message.
I think that some laptops / computers have the power thru their usb ports to make this firmware update work and some don't. Mine didn't.
What I could try next is to move the projector from it's shelf into another room and connect it to my desktop computer and then try and update the firmware.
However, before trying that, I would appreciate hearing from others here who have updated their firmware. I use the HDFury Linker and my JVC X7500 has firmware w29.2 and I want to update to u83.2.
The question is, will this update make a noticeable improvement to the picture shown by the X7500? Mainly I am concerned with UHD quality, and especially the HDR aspect.
Thanks.
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I tried the cable that Javs recommended but unfortunately it did not work with my laptop. The upgrader software worked and recognized that something was plugged into com4 but then I got the "connection error" message.
I think that some laptops / computers have the power thru their usb ports to make this firmware update work and some don't. Mine didn't.
What I could try next is to move the projector from it's shelf into another room and connect it to my desktop computer and then try and update the firmware.
However, before trying that, I would appreciate hearing from others here who have updated their firmware. I use the HDFury Linker and my JVC X7500 has firmware w29.2 and I want to update to u83.2.
The question is, will this update make a noticeable improvement to the picture shown by the X7500? Mainly I am concerned with UHD quality, and especially the HDR aspect.
Thanks.
That cable does work I use it too. I don't think there is any significant PQ improvements apart from bug fixes. It's been a long while but I mam pretty sure this was to fix the lock up issue.
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That cable does work I use it too. I don't think there is any significant PQ improvements apart from bug fixes. It's been a long while but I mam pretty sure this was to fix the lock up issue.
Bandyka is correct..... it was for the HDMI Sync Lockup only.. If you havant experienced this, i wouldn't bother upgrading..
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That cable does work I use it too. I don't think there is any significant PQ improvements apart from bug fixes. It's been a long while but I mam pretty sure this was to fix the lock up issue.
Thanks Bandyka, I figured that the cable was ok as other people have the same problem, something that works for other people does not work for them so it must relate to the laptop/computer we use.
If there are no meaningful picture improvements then that is one less job to do.
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I would appreciate hearing from others here who have updated their firmware. I use the HDFury Linker and my JVC X7500 has firmware w29.2 and I want to update to u83.2.
The question is, will this update make a noticeable improvement to the picture shown by the X7500?
Where can we find this new (?) firmware for the x7500?
I can only find a reference to 'u83.2' here: http://www3.jvckenwood.com/english/d...00_uhd-dl.html
And that is not for the x7500...

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Where can we find this new (?) firmware for the x7500?
I can only find a reference to 'u83.2' here: http://www3.jvckenwood.com/english/d...00_uhd-dl.html
And that is not for the x7500...
Jowicrt, I'm in Australia and JVC use different numbers for their projectors in different countries so it is confusing. But in Australia that is the right firmware as far as I know.
I think the X750 in Canada is the X7500 in Australia.
How it works for the Netherlands is another matter!
Anyway, Javs knows about such things and he would have said something if it was the wrong firmware.
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I think the X750 in Canada is the X7500 in Australia.
Anyway, Javs knows about such things and he would have said something if it was the wrong firmware.
I would doublecheck this if i were you...
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Jowicrt, I'm in Australia and JVC use different numbers for their projectors in different countries so it is confusing. But in Australia that is the right firmware as far as I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXpsTdb6Pi0
I think the X750 in Canada is the X7500 in Australia.
How it works for the Netherlands is another matter!
Anyway, Javs knows about such things and he would have said something if it was the wrong firmware.
I wouldn't expect me to pay such close attention

X750r is X7000.
X770r is X7500
X790r is X7900.

30.1 is the firmware you need for the xx500 projectors.
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I wouldn't expect me to pay such close attention

X750r is X7000.
X770r is X7500
X790r is X7900.

30.1 is the firmware you need for the xx500 projectors.
Well...................that shows how much I know!!!
Presumably that is why the update did not work.
Anyway, since it only seems to have something to do with a lock-up issue which I have not experienced I will let it go.
Another wasted couple of hours but at least I did not brick the projector.
Thanks Javs.
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Olympics HDR.....

Has anyone managed to watch the Olympics in HDR through Directv and what setting do you have on your projector..
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Question Boiling Down >200 pages of setup recommendations

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I've had my 620 for a week now and have done what I think are the critical optimizations for picture quality but wanted to get any feedback you may have.
After doing these 4 things I definitely see an improvement in picture quality. I have not yet worked on my source inputs - they are yet to come (madvr & oppo)

1. gamma calibration using Manni's instructions
2. installed both 1200nitv3 and 4000nitv3 gamma curves into custom picture profiles - Javs instructions
3. installed custom color profiles using Manni's instructions
4. color calibration using Manni's instructions

If this is the critical 90% for getting the best out of the projector, what do I do for the last 10%?
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^^^^^^ I have a tag on question to your's, Ksdehoff, that I'm hoping someone more experienced than me can answer.

Which of the calibrations above are necessary if using an Oppo with a JVC 520 for tone-mapping? Do the gamma and gamma curves not matter since using a built in gamma, and not a custom curve?

Also--are there any more up to date guides than the ones referenced above.....they seem to be for the 2015 models using older software....or do they still apply to curent (520/540, etc) models??

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I have a quick question about setting default brightness and contrast from a calibration disc. On my JVC I have to put the brightness up to 5 (0 being default) so not to lose back detail, but I have read conflicting reports saying that by doing this I am losing contrast.

The picture preset example I'm referring to is THX, but any preset requires about the same level of adjustment on any black level test pattern I choose. If I left it at 0 I'm crushing the black detail. Am I missing something or is a +5 brightness where I should leave it if the pattern shows that to be correct? I have a light controlled room with a 1.1 gain white screen and use the standard HDMI input level.

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what do I do for the last 10%?
- do an ISF calibration by a pro with a meter in stead of autocal
- make sure your room is lightcontroller (pitchdark)
- get a good screen (like Stewart etc...)
- make sure the mechanical setup of projector and screen is perfect (leveled etc)
- use quality mediaplayers like an oppo, and get it modified (e.g. Cinemike in Germany)
- you could even mod your projector by guys like Cinemike, results in less videonoise, more brightness etc.
- play good, reference material...
- calibrate every 200 hour or so to compensate for lamp degradation, replace lamp more often
- if you're a believer, use a good, filtered & stable powersource, using shielded cables (like LAPP cables)
- use high quality HDMI cables, use optical ones like Celerity Tek for long runs
- make sure you have perfect eyesight yourself
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- do an ISF calibration by a pro with a meter in stead of autocal
- make sure your room is lightcontroller (pitchdark)
- get a good screen (like Stewart etc...)
- make sure the mechanical setup of projector and screen is perfect (leveled etc)
- use quality mediaplayers like an oppo, and get it modified (e.g. Cinemike in Germany)
- you could even mod your projector by guys like Cinemike, results in less videonoise, more brightness etc.
- play good, reference material...
- calibrate every 200 hour or so to compensate for lamp degradation, replace lamp more often
- if you're a believer, use a good, filtered & stable powersource, using shielded cables (like LAPP cables)
- use high quality HDMI cables, use optical ones like Celerity Tek for long runs
- make sure you have perfect eyesight yourself
How does a modification improve the Oppo video section?
(I'm aware of the 205 and non-205 mods for audio)

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How does a modification improve the Oppo video section?
(I'm aware of the 205 and non-205 mods for audio)
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I'm not familiar with modding the Oppo etc, but according to e.g. Cinemike the video circuit also can benefit in terms of less video noise, better blacks etc. Again, this what i've read, not what i experienced. Check for yourself.
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I've had my 620 for a week now and have done what I think are the critical optimizations for picture quality but wanted to get any feedback you may have.
After doing these 4 things I definitely see an improvement in picture quality. I have not yet worked on my source inputs - they are yet to come (madvr & oppo)

1. gamma calibration using Manni's instructions
2. installed both 1200nitv3 and 4000nitv3 gamma curves into custom picture profiles - Javs instructions
3. installed custom color profiles using Manni's instructions
4. color calibration using Manni's instructions

If this is the critical 90% for getting the best out of the projector, what do I do for the last 10%?
Out of curiosity, is that the order you did them in?

I’ve been thinking about doing a bit of a beginner’s write-up, which you essentially did.

However, the one thing I’m wrapping my head around is the order. Manni’s instructions include doing gamma and color together, but I also dont see why you can’t just do gamma-only first, use Arve’s tool to load up Javs curves, adjust your black level per Javs instructions, then once everything is good on gamma hop over to the color correction.

One thing to note, if you’re focusing on HDR then there isnt any need to loaf Manni’s 2020 profiles as the 420/520/620+ have the exact profiles loaded for 2020 (i asked).
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Out of curiosity, is that the order you did them in?

I’ve been thinking about doing a bit of a beginner’s write-up, which you essentially did.

However, the one thing I’m wrapping my head around is the order. Manni’s instructions include doing gamma and color together, but I also dont see why you can’t just do gamma-only first, use Arve’s tool to load up Javs curves, adjust your black level per Javs instructions, then once everything is good on gamma hop over to the color correction.

One thing to note, if you’re focusing on HDR then there isnt any need to loaf Manni’s 2020 profiles as the 420/520/620+ have the exact profiles loaded for 2020 (i asked).
You can just do gamma and greyscale they are the two most important parts once you have those nailed you are 95% there.

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I have a quick question about setting default brightness and contrast from a calibration disc. On my JVC I have to put the brightness up to 5 (0 being default) so not to lose back detail, but I have read conflicting reports saying that by doing this I am losing contrast.

The picture preset example I'm referring to is THX, but any preset requires about the same level of adjustment on any black level test pattern I choose. If I left it at 0 I'm crushing the black detail. Am I missing something or is a +5 brightness where I should leave it if the pattern shows that to be correct? I have a light controlled room with a 1.1 gain white screen and use the standard HDMI input level.

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+5 is way too high I am at 0 and clipping near perfect, I found that using some test patterns discs setting brightness and contrast will actually not look right with real content. I don't see why one would need to go higher than +1.

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I'm not familiar with modding the Oppo etc, but according to e.g. Cinemike the video circuit also can benefit in terms of less video noise, better blacks etc. Again, this what i've read, not what i experienced. Check for yourself.
Most probably SNAKE OIL.
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