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Per the recommendations I've see in various threads, Auto 2.
okay thanks. still trying to wrap my head around what everything does including the lens aperture.
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quick question. what should the lens aperture be set to. auto 1, 2 or is there a manual setting that is better. thanks
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Well, the Google Chromecast and Roku Ultra don't do HDR. The Chromecast can't crack 1080p, total garbage. The Roku on set up determined my set up can run 4K HDR.. but Netflix only comes in at 4K, no HDR. More false advertising.
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Contacted Roku support and stumped them. Sent pics of my info screens, he said his teams looking into it and will email me supposedly. I'm guessing they're banking on people assuming it giving them HDR just because the set up says it will.

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Contacted Roku support and stumped them. Sent pics of my info screens, he said his teams looking into it and will email me supposedly. I'm guessing they're banking on people assuming it giving them HDR just because the set up says it will.
Have u tried the NVIDIA Shield TV?
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watched Logan UHD disc. probably not the best test movie ( found it kinda dark and not very colorful). but I set the Lens Ap to manual at -14 and it was too dark I thought with no pop. tried out a few scenes in Auto 2 and bumped up the picture tone from o to 4 and it looked better I thought. looks like another setting I will have to keep playing with depending on the movie.
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watched Logan UHD disc. probably not the best test movie ( found it kinda dark and not very colorful). but I set the Lens Ap to manual at -14 and it was too dark I thought with no pop. tried out a few scenes in Auto 2 and bumped up the picture tone from o to 4 and it looked better I thought. looks like another setting I will have to keep playing with depending on the movie.
If you are watching a UHD HDR movie the iris should be at 0. With HDR you want the maximum brightness that your projector can achieve. When I had my projector calibrated HDR received the biggest improvement. When is Chad B calibrating yours?

Edit: Also Auto iris does not work in HDR mode
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If you are watching a UHD HDR movie the iris should be at 0. With HDR you want the maximum brightness that your projector can achieve. When I had my projector calibrated HDR received the biggest improvement. When is Chad B calibrating yours?

Edit: Also Auto iris does not work in HDR mode
well that explains a lot then. thanks. haven't received a confirmation exact date yet. He said a month out they confirm the date. but it should be sometime late July he is in my area.
So if watching a regular blu-ray will zero setting on the iris still be effective?
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well that explains a lot then. thanks. haven't received a confirmation exact date yet. He said a month out they confirm the date. but it should be sometime late July he is in my area.
So if watching a regular blu-ray will zero setting on the iris still be effective?
HDR is probably that only time you want it set at zero but that really depends on how big your screen is and what type of screen you are using. Your profile for watching blu-rays and watching UHD can be different and the projector will automatically switch to the appropriate one.
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Have u tried the NVIDIA Shield TV?
No it's the last one to try, being the priciest I'm saving it for last.
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No it's the last one to try, being the priciest I'm saving it for last.
Give us an update when you have tried it, I'm considering one myself
I heard you can force 4K/24fps from Netflix app, for movies filmed in 24fps.
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I heard you can force 4K/24fps from Netflix app, for movies filmed in 24fps.
I'm also looking at getting the Shield. Had the Roku Ultra for about two hours before returning it. Too many audio chirps, audio dropouts, and one system freeze.
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HDR is probably that only time you want it set at zero but that really depends on how big your screen is and what type of screen you are using. Your profile for watching blu-rays and watching UHD can be different and the projector will automatically switch to the appropriate one.
my screen is Stewart Cima Neve, white. 133inch scope.
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my screen is Stewart Cima Neve, white. 133inch scope.
That's a fairly large screen. Maybe @Javs can chime in on how an HDR picture will look on it.
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Well, the Google Chromecast and Roku Ultra don't do HDR. The Chromecast can't crack 1080p, total garbage. The Roku on set up determined my set up can run 4K HDR.. but Netflix only comes in at 4K, no HDR. More false advertising.
I can confirm that my Roku premiere+, and Nvidia Shield play Netflix in HDR (if the show is supported) fine so maybe I got lucky.
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I'm also looking at getting the Shield. Had the Roku Ultra for about two hours before returning it. Too many audio chirps, audio dropouts, and one system freeze.
I have the Shield TV with the X770 (RS520)....Really like it.
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I have the Shield TV with the X770 (RS520)....Really like it.
I couldn't resist trying the Nvidia Shield. I can confirm it does NOT do HDR, at least not with our projector.

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Only thing that does is the Samsung K8500 with 1010 firmware, shame it looks like red ass.
The Sony X800 does HDR beautifully with our projector...

Are we talking discs or streaming? Netflix, discs and YouTube all look great in HDR.
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I couldn't resist trying the Nvidia Shield. I can confirm it does NOT do HDR, at least not with our projector.

Only thing that does is the Samsung K8500 with 1010 firmware, shame it looks like red ass.
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The Sony X800 does HDR beautifully with our projector...

Are we talking discs or streaming? Netflix, discs and YouTube all look great in HDR.
Streaming, as the Shield TV is a streaming only box. plissken, can you confirm with which apps/services you are NOT getting HDR? When I did the research, it was the only standalone streamer to do HDR from all the major players. I can try and confirm on my end...

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Netflix, trying Iron Fist and Luke Cage, both are HDR shows. I can't believe there's thi much false advertising out there. Comes through in 4K, just not HDR. I really think they're banking on people not noticing.
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I couldn't resist trying the Nvidia Shield. I can confirm it does NOT do HDR, at least not with our projector.

Only thing that does is the Samsung K8500 with 1010 firmware, shame it looks like red ass.
Panasonic UB900 streams in HDR. It has been confirmed by multiple people (myself included).
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Panasonic UB900 streams in HDR. It has been confirmed by multiple people (myself included).
Well it's not too late to return the Oppo.. I'm not usually one for superstition, however I've had an Oppo in my AV rack since the beginning of my home theater obsession, they've always been reliable and simply the best at what they're designed for. I think I'm sending the Nvidia back and waiting for Project Scorpio(with crossed fingers).

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Netflix, trying Iron Fist and Luke Cage, both are HDR shows. I can't believe there's thi much false advertising out there. Comes through in 4K, just not HDR. I really think they're banking on people not noticing.
I watched both of those in HDR on my JVC using the Panny 900.

Dont be so quick to call it false advertising when its probably just a bug.

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just curious as to how often the filter should be cleaned on the projector. I've read that canned air should never be used either. I keep the dust cover on when not in use. are there any other maintenance cleaning that should be done to the unit?
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I've got a DLA-X570R and a Samsung UBD-M9500...I've just updated today to the latest firmware for the blu ray player. I find it curious that when playing a HDR disc or streaming HDR material from Netflix that I can't see any appreciable difference from HDR or cinema mode on the projector. I'm told that if it's getting a HDR signal that the projector will automatically go into HDR mode?....Mine remains on whatever mode I left it in (even though it says it's getting a HDR signal which has been noted as being a bug?). I'd have to say that I don't see any appreciable difference in the picture quality from any of the UHD discs I have over the plain 1080p upscaled picture I get from my AppleTV. This doesn't mean that I'm unhappy with the picture though as it looks absolutely great for a projected picture! also, it's hard to judge colour etc. from most of the movies I have since they're very dark and/or with a definite colour palette....Assassin's Creed, Kingsmen, Independence Day.

On that note is there any sample/demo type disc in UHD that has HDR or colour reference material out there yet?
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I've got a DLA-X570R and a Samsung UBD-M9500...I've just updated today to the latest firmware for the blu ray player. I find it curious that when playing a HDR disc or streaming HDR material from Netflix that I can't see any appreciable difference from HDR or cinema mode on the projector. I'm told that if it's getting a HDR signal that the projector will automatically go into HDR mode?....Mine remains on whatever mode I left it in (even though it says it's getting a HDR signal which has been noted as being a bug?). I'd have to say that I don't see any appreciable difference in the picture quality from any of the UHD discs I have over the plain 1080p upscaled picture I get from my AppleTV. This doesn't mean that I'm unhappy with the picture though as it looks absolutely great for a projected picture! also, it's hard to judge colour etc. from most of the movies I have since they're very dark and/or with a definite colour palette....Assassin's Creed, Kingsmen, Independence Day.

On that note is there any sample/demo type disc in UHD that has HDR or colour reference material out there yet?
I recommend Deadpool, Lucy, Passengers, Logan, or Pacific Rim. These discs do a good job of showing off what 4k, HDR, and WCG are all about.
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I recommend Deadpool, Lucy, Passengers, Logan, or Pacific Rim. These discs do a good job of showing off what 4k, HDR, and WCG are all about.
Logan? Really? I thought it had a very dark and orangey looking colour palette
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Logan? Really? I thought it had a very dark and orangey looking colour palette
Why would that stop it from having excellent picture quality? From the blu-ray.com review of the UHD disc:

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