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I dont recall anyone mentioning it or not, but are the bright corners still there on the new JVCs?
My 520 had some very slight issue with that but I had to stare for at least 10 seconds on a black screen to notice so in normal operation it was invisible the current 620 has none.

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I see Sony are providing new and existing owners auto HDR detection and HLG via updates as reported by AVS,

https://www.avsforum.com/sony-vpl-vw2...rs-cedia-2017/

so if sony can provide this kind of thing via firmware update for existing owners, why cant jvc I ask ?

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I see Sony are providing new and existing owners auto HDR detection and HLG via updates as reported by AVS,

https://www.avsforum.com/sony-vpl-vw2...rs-cedia-2017/

so if sony can provide this kind of thing via firmware update for existing owners, why cant jvc I ask ?

"The company also announced some significant updates to the VPL-VW675ES, which are available for new and existing owners. The update includes support for Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG) HDR with auto-detection of supported HDR formats. Also, the Information Menu now provides additional details about the color and HDR format of incoming signals."
JVC could -- we know about the updates third party modifications have been able to achieve to do things like fix HDR gamma on the x00 series -- but has decided not to.
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Curious to see if the incoming pre-order pricing will reflect the lower MSRP prices or if they'll be similar to last year's.
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Yeah, I hope my 540 doesn't have bright corners as bad as my 520 did.
Hoping the same for my 640. However, I can handle "minor" bright corners (nothings perfect). Since JVC is well aware of this issue - always hoping they might improve w/ these newer models.
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Hoping the same for my 640. However, I can handle "minor" bright corners (nothings perfect). Since JVC is well aware of this issue - always hoping they might improve w/ these newer models.
Same here. I have minor bright corners on the RS45 I am using now and also had them slightly on my RS40 and they were a non issue. The bright corners on my 520 though we're definitely more noticeable and while not a deal killer on their own, they did bother me and could be seen on a fade to black in a film even when zoomed out for 2.35. Fingers crossed the 540 fares better.
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Same here. I have minor bright corners on the RS45 I am using now and also had them slightly on my RS40 and they were a non issue. The bright corners on my 520 though we're definitely more noticeable and while not a deal killer on their own, they did bother me and could be seen on a fade to black in a film even when zoomed out for 2.35. Fingers crossed the 540 fares better.
Is this an unavoidable consequence of the the big jump in Lumens starting with the previous series?
The "no free lunch" syndrome?
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Is this an unavoidable consequence of the the big jump in Lumens starting with the previous series?
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It seems to be related to the lower black floor of the RS520/620s. The RS420 with its higher black floor tend to have less noticeable corner issues.

My current X500 (RS4910) has no bright corners and my former RS4810 really didn't have them but their black floors are higher compared to the upper tier JVCs.
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Is this an unavoidable consequence of the the big jump in Lumens starting with the previous series?
The "no free lunch" syndrome?
My first thought when I saw how much worse they were over my 40/45 was that it might be related to the FAR better contrast (?). I had my iris clamped down all the way at -15 so I was taking great advantage of the contrast capabilities of the 520 which maybe makes the bright corners stick out more, but I'm not sure.
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It seems to be related to the lower black floor of the RS520/620s. The RS420 with its higher black floor tend to have less noticeable corner issues.

My current X500 (RS4910) has no bright corners and my former RS4810 really didn't have them but their black floors are higher compared to the upper tier JVCs.
Yup, it wouldn't surprise me if you were to measure it, and the "bright corners" were relatively consistent across the whole JVC line, but with the black floor being so high on the RS5x0/6x0, they are more apparent. That said, the "bright corners" on my RS600 are quite subtle, I've never seen them on content, not even credits or star fields, the only time I see them is if I'm in the dark, in my theater, and my eyes have had time to adjust the very low light levels.

It also seems as though it's improved since the very early RS500/600s, perhaps JVC implemented a manufacturing change to reduce the issue.
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Is this an unavoidable consequence of the the big jump in Lumens starting with the previous series?
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This I don't understand. I would think that a big jump in lumens would affect everything, not just the corners. The bright corners are my biggest complaint with my JVC -- somewhat disappointing. On the positive side the 3D is extremely good.
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My RS620/X9500 that i just sold had "ZERO" bright corners...
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This I don't understand. I would think that a big jump in lumens would affect everything, not just the corners. The bright corners are my biggest complaint with my JVC -- somewhat disappointing. On the positive side the 3D is extremely good.
You and Zombie definitely are more impressed with the 3d vs me. Going from rock solid single chip DLP 3D for 4 years to the flicker on the RS520 was something I never got used to in the three months I had it unfortunately. I do agree with you guys though when it comes to darker 3d on the JVCs where flicker does not rear it's ugly head as often. Dark 3d is excellent on these newer models!
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My RS620/X9500 that i just sold had "ZERO" bright corners...
my 2nd RS600 is a solid A in this area but I've seen other RS600's (mostly early production) that weren't as well as a few RS500's.
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You and Zombie definitely are more impressed with the 3d vs me. Going from rock solid single chip DLP 3D for 4 years to the flicker on the RS520 was something I never got used to in the three months I had it unfortunately. I do agree with you guys though when it comes to darker 3d on the JVCs where flicker does not rear it's ugly head as often. Dark 3d is excellent on these newer models!
This is from a 2011 projectorreviews.com article:

"These JVC projectors do not offer frame interpolation (ie., for smooth motion) in 3D mode so for 24 Hz 3D sources each input frame is simply repeated 2 times (i.e., 2:2 pulldown) to produce 48 Hz for each the right and left frames, or 96 Hz total for all frames. Likewise 2:2 pulldown is applied to 30 Hz 3D sources and 60 Hz 3D sources are displayed directly thus displaying these latter types of sources at 60 Hz per eye or 120 Hz total for all frames. While displaying 24 Hz 3D source material at 96 Hz (48 Hz per eye) is less than ideal for eliminating visible flicker in the projected image, this has proven to not be a significant issue with most viewers, but those that are especially sensitive to flicker may have an issue with this limitation of the JVC projectors when operated in 3D mode."

Do the newer JVCs allow CMD in 3D mode? If they do does it at least reduce the flicker for you as this article suggests it might? I'm interested in the new models but love watching 3D blu ray on a DLP projector currently. I'm curious how many people notice this flickering
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But it didn't help reduce flicker to my eyes.
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This is from a 2011 projectorreviews.com article:

"These JVC projectors do not offer frame interpolation (ie., for smooth motion) in 3D mode so for 24 Hz 3D sources each input frame is simply repeated 2 times (i.e., 2:2 pulldown) to produce 48 Hz for each the right and left frames, or 96 Hz total for all frames. Likewise 2:2 pulldown is applied to 30 Hz 3D sources and 60 Hz 3D sources are displayed directly thus displaying these latter types of sources at 60 Hz per eye or 120 Hz total for all frames. While displaying 24 Hz 3D source material at 96 Hz (48 Hz per eye) is less than ideal for eliminating visible flicker in the projected image, this has proven to not be a significant issue with most viewers, but those that are especially sensitive to flicker may have an issue with this limitation of the JVC projectors when operated in 3D mode."

Do the newer JVCs allow CMD in 3D mode? If they do does it at least reduce the flicker for you as this article suggests it might? I'm interested in the new models but love watching 3D blu ray on a DLP projector currently. I'm curious how many people notice this flickering
Hard to say and your just going to have to try it for yourself. As I mentioned above, both Zombie and Deja Vu who are both very experienced with single chip DLP 3d dont have much if any issue with the flicker on the JVCs in 3d, but I never was able to get around it. Hard to say where you'll land.
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