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[QUOTE=brian6751;54609308]Does the difference between glass and plastic lenses make a difference? -snip/QUOTE]

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To Joel, Scott, and the rest of the experts: Is there a question that hasn't been asked?
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Is HDR projection a different standard than it is from backlit displays?

Considering the amount of light needed to come back to the viewer to get true HDR , I feel that backlit displays have the advantage, although I much prefer the look of reflected projection image myself :-)
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Is it feasible for 4k projectors to utilize passive 3D instead of active?
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Question Projection Versus "Flat screen"

With the prices of 4K projectors so high, and the prices of traditional, non-projection television prices dropping rapidly, what things should be considered when choosing between a projector, or a giant-sized flat-panel LED, etc.?

I have a dedicated theater with a 100" screen. I can get an 80" (or so) LED television for about the same prices as a simulated 4K projector. I feel like in 1 year, the prices for the same size may converge.

What are your thoughts?

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Green is where most of the expanded gamut comes from.
Yet, if you look at the remaining area, the green is so much larger than the red and blue. The previous green reproduction was so inadequate, they had nowhere to go but up. That said, there is still a long way to go. Just look at all the advertisements for WCG, the TVs always show a bunch of blue and red tones, never green. That's because they still can't make a forest look like a real forest. That is the Holy Grail, from my perception.

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To Joel, Scott, and the rest of the experts: Is there a question that hasn't been asked?
Of course, like, is it going to rain on my Birthday?
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Yet, if you look at the remaining area, the green is so much larger than the red and blue.
It would take adding more primaries to get more coverage. If you just shifted green to the left (blue) you'd start sacrificing yellow/red saturation.
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It would take adding more primaries to get more coverage. If you just shifted green to the left (blue) you'd start sacrificing yellow/red saturation.
I'd be perfectly OK with that "compromise". Clearly, the powers that be are not.
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Of course, like, is it going to rain on my Birthday?
Are we covering birthdays and rain questions also?
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Are we covering birthdays and rain questions also?
I increased the difficulty level, by not giving the date. My take on this whole thread, is, some of the questions asked are not going to be answerable.
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I increased the difficulty level, by not giving the date. My take on this whole thread, is, some of the questions asked are not going to be answerable.
My take on it is that there is a question or two that these experts have in mind which hasn't been asked!

Might be slightly better than rain, birthdays and caramel!
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I increased the difficulty level, by not giving the date. My take on this whole thread, is, some of the questions asked are not going to be answerable.
And many of the others already have been, some ad nauseum
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Hello Mr. Silver.

I use a Windows 7 HTPC [Intel HD4600 Graphics processor] in conjunction with a Panasonic PT AE8000 projector and an Elite Screens Aeon 135-inch 16:9 4K screen.

What is the best way to go about calibrating the HTPC's display settings and the projectors to achieve the highest quality output.

Thanks for considering my question!
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Adding to the HDR questioning faction ...

In addition to the obvious questions:
  • When will projector HDR capabilities approach OLED HDR capabilities?
  • When will we see a projector with 4000+ nits of brightness?
  • Will projectors with frickin' lasers attached to their heads achieve the HDR goal?

I'm curious about the difference between contrast ratio and HDR. For example, why does a projector like the Sony VPL-VW675ES with a 350,000:1 contrast ratio only achieve acceptable (at best) HDR?

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Do you think we will ever see a standard for screen material gain and audio transparency? A standard that consumers could use that would help in determining purchase?
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Do you think we will ever see a standard for screen material gain and audio transparency? A standard that consumers could use that would help in determining purchase?
I am not understanding what you are asking for? What do you mean by a standard? AT screens will never be made to a single speced gain number? Do you mean actual gain numbers and not BS numbers that many screen manufacturers use?
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I am not understanding what you are asking for? What do you mean by a standard? AT screens will never be made to a single speced gain number? Do you mean actual gain numbers and not BS numbers that many screen manufacturers use?
Yes the latter. Third party testing or the like, where there are true numbers.
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are projectors hdr
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When the front projector is properly calibrated with one source, is it necessary to re-adjust with another source. For example, my JVC is calibrated with Oppo 105. If in the future, I switched my source to Oppo U-203, do I have to re-adjust my JVC? Thanks!
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You've got some reading to do, short answer, it's not Native 4K and the contrast is abysmal, so no, it can't.
I'm not so sure. This review speaks favorably of the new Optoma 4k projectors, saying they hold thier own against the more expensive Sony's. Not quite as good, but in the same class. I would not buy one however because of the abscence of 3D.

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I have a interesting one for you.. If you have a 4k Blu ray player and a 4 k movie though a 1080p Projector or monitor will it scale up the image to sharper than 1080? I know it wont be 4 k but will it clean the image up to better than reference at 1080 since i know it cant be 4K or HDR but will it look noticeably better? Thanks my man.
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I'm not so sure. This review speaks favorably of the new Optoma 4k projectors, saying they hold thier own against the more expensive Sony's. Not quite as good, but in the same class. I would not buy one however because of the abscence of 3D.
I suppose I should have said "reputable" reviews, like Cine4home, ProjectorReviews, and Kris Deering (who has a pro review for S&V coming) and Seegs here.
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I'm not so sure. This review speaks favorably of the new Optoma 4k projectors, saying they hold thier own against the more expensive Sony's. Not quite as good, but in the same class. I would not buy one however because of the abscence of 3D.
I can find many reviews that talk about how great those little tiny Bose speakers are also. Might want to read reports from guys that have actually compared them to other good projectors. Guys that are not writing paid reviews. I even know of one guy that writes paid reviews and his opinion of it was so bad that he went back told them what he thought of it and asked if the manufacturer still wanted him to write the review.
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I'm no expert. The user reviews on Best Buy seem favorable (they don't screen and block out the bad ones). I still would not buy one because of the absence of 3D.

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I'm no expert. The user reviews on Best Buy seem favorable (they don't screen and block out the bad ones). I still would not buy one because of the absence of 3D.
The problem with owner reviews (beyond owner bias), especially for something like this, is you have to consider what those owners have seen and compared it to. People generally don't stray too far in price in what they've seen/compared it to. In other words, I'd assume the vast majority of UHD60/65 owners have no experience with projectors, or are coming from 1080 projectors that are less than, or about the same price. There seem to be very, very few people out there who have compared these XPR machines to other 4K compatible projectors like JVC, Epson or Sony, and those that have, have a pretty low opinion of the DLPs.
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What are your thought on HDR 10 vs Dolby Vision?
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ok, let me try to win this bd player, even tho I never win nuthin

1) What's with having a 2:35 screen when it looks fine on a 16:9

2) What's with having an AT screen when with a little tweak it'll sound just fine
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