Originally Posted by Dave Harper
Understood. It just really irks me that nobody took this or me serious for about a year until some “real” pros looked at it and gave their “blessings” just recently. I’ve been doing this crap for a LONG time, longer than almost all of those “unbiased pros”, and have been here on AVS for about 19 years and it feels like quite the slap in the face to be honest not to be taken seriously enough to warrant a look-see or the slightest of real discussions by them at all. Every single person that got one, EVERY ONE that I know had nothing but praise and said the same things I did essentially, but these so called “unbiased” folks didn’t even think to give it a second thought just because “it was a DLP so we know how it will look already”!
OK rant over. This isn’t intended to start a war, so don’t bother because I’m not responding, especially because everything I wrote is true.
Hey Dave, as a newcomer to this forum I can completely relate to what you were saying. The perception coming in is that the 'established' or respected posters, or the 'real pros' as you call them, favour the JVC's particularly, above Sony's (with not much else an option), and I do think you were a bit out on your own pushing this projector. Honestly, I figured that maybe you were just someone who tolerated lower black levels than most people seem to accept, and my guess was that I personally wouldn't agree.
I didn't doubt your sincerity at all, it's just even now - I still question if the black levels will be good. I want to see this projector though.
I think what changed, at least for me, is nothing to do with the other 'pros' looking at and gave their blessings - it's the side by side photos from Woofer. A picture tells a thousand words, and I think what you could have done is to provide more robust evidence. You've now posted the gamut graphs, and in combination with the side by sides from woofer, people take the claims and this projector much more seriously.
There is too much confirmation bias in this forum (and genre) generally, so whenever you have one person talking about positive experiences with a product they own, without tangible evidence, it has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
I am also guilty of not knowing your track record with projectors, so that was probably another factor..