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post #3661 of 3810 Old 05-27-2019, 04:15 AM
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The bulb has 2 plug in connectors and in mine they were on snug. Removing those was the most difficult part. And it wasn't difficult.

You can see those connections to the bulb in the only picture I posted a few posts above. Good Luck.
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It seems that a bunch of people jumped on the bare Phillips bulb on Amazon. They are now out of stock on the original Phillips version. They have an economy bulb that fits for a about $62 in stock. Wondering who makes it? I sent the seller a message asking this? It might even be worth getting one and comparing it to the Phillips at this low price. Usually different brand bulbs are made to the same specifications but who knows unless it is compared. I asked when the Phillips bulb will be back in stock and was told about 14 days for those interested.

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While there is a grain of truth to what you are saying, I would also guess that the second JVC switches to true 4K panels you are going to see a mass migration from the JVC owners to a new 4K projector. There are advantages to a true 4k panel and at the end of the day I think thats what a majority of the projector owners would want as long as it meets their price and performance needs...until 8k comes around of course
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Does anyone know if the chief rpa 020 mount will work with this projector & is this projector a huge step up from the Sony hw30?
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Does anyone know if the chief rpa 020 mount will work with this projector & is this projector a huge step up from the Sony hw30?
No idea about the mount I am afraid, but yes, it will be a massive step up from the HW30!

In fact you would be better off going for a 295 now if you are paying full whack/new.

If buying second hand then see it before buying if possible and see what warranty is left.

You will be pleased with either one but as I said, if paying 'new' money, the 295 is where my money would go at this stage.
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No idea about the mount I am afraid, but yes, it will be a massive step up from the HW30!

In fact you would be better off going for a 295 now if you are paying full whack/new.

If buying second hand then see it before buying if possible and see what warranty is left.

You will be pleased with either one but as I said, if paying 'new' money, the 295 is where my money would go at this stage.
I would agree that if you are paying full price the 295 would be the one to get. There are B stock 285's around for much less than half the price will full warranty.
They would be a great deal for many. Contact Mike at AVScience store for information. I Can't post prices.
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I would agree that if you are paying full price the 295 would be the one to get. There are B stock 285's around for much less than half the price will full warranty.
They would be a great deal for many. Contact Mike at AVScience store for information. I Can't post prices.
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I would agree that if you are paying full price the 295 would be the one to get. There are B stock 285's around for much less than half the price will full warranty.
They would be a great deal for many.
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Buy a new 285 now?

Don't have time to read the 3669 posts here, need to make a decision. I was planning on the Epson 6050 with little discount likely. I found a Sony AD with a new in the box leftover 285ES. Willing to sell it to me for a great price. Any reason not to get the Sony 285 at this point?

Newly constructed, dedicated, light controlled HT. Will have a large (say 130" or more wide) AT screen.

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Don't have time to read the 3669 posts here, need to make a decision. I was planning on the Epson 6050 with little discount likely. I found a Sony AD with a new in the box leftover 285ES. Willing to sell it to me for a great price. Any reason not to get the Sony 285 at this point?

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There Is an Incredible deal on a mint 285ES on eBay right now.

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Don't have time to read the 3669 posts here, need to make a decision. I was planning on the Epson 6050 with little discount likely. I found a Sony AD with a new in the box leftover 285ES. Willing to sell it to me for a great price. Any reason not to get the Sony 285 at this point?

Newly constructed, dedicated, light controlled HT. Will have a large (say 130" or more wide) AT screen.
If you have a large screen and very good light control you'll expose the flaws of this projector quite a lot. The black floor isn't great and the light output will look anemic on HDR content. I have a 106 inch screen 0.9 gain and I have trouble getting past 105-110 nits calibrated on high lamp. Overall it is great though. Once you put movies on, it really shines. I always ended up kinda dissapointed with many many different setup but I found out the past way squeeze every oz of performance out of it. You really need a HTPC with a good GPU, madvr and something to calibrate like a i1display pro. I did 2 presets, one for SDR and one for UHD disks. I did a manuel calibration with HCFR and then a 3dlut with displaycal. The upscaling is way beyond what I expected and the colors and mapping of uhd disks is far better than every option available.
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It seems that a bunch of people jumped on the bare Phillips bulb on Amazon. They are now out of stock on the original Phillips version. They have an economy bulb that fits for a about $62 in stock. Wondering who makes it? I sent the seller a message asking this? It might even be worth getting one and comparing it to the Phillips at this low price. Usually different brand bulbs are made to the same specifications but who knows unless it is compared. I asked when the Phillips bulb will be back in stock and was told about 14 days for those interested.
I ordered the Economy one thinking it was the Philips one. I'm going to try and return it.

It states on the packaging...

Durability based on 4000-6000 hours:
Philips 100%
Premium 83%
Economy 37%

Luminosity:
Philips 100%
Premium 88%
Economy 67%

Lumens:
Philips Lumens 5000hrs-6000hrs
Premium Lumens 2500hrs-5000hrs
Economy Lumens 0hrs-2500hrs

Not worth the cost compared to the Philips.
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I ordered the Economy one thinking it was the Philips one. I'm going to try and return it.

It states on the packaging...

Durability based on 4000-6000 hours:
Philips 100%
Premium 83%
Economy 37%

Luminosity:
Philips 100%
Premium 88%
Economy 67%

Lumens:
Philips Lumens 5000hrs-6000hrs
Premium Lumens 2500hrs-5000hrs
Economy Lumens 0hrs-2500hrs

Not worth the cost compared to the Philips.
Actually it might be worth trying. The information on non OEM bulbs may not be accurate and it could be good or bad. Usually non OEM bulbs list similar specifications that is why I think what is printed may be way off. The only way is to compare them. Since the Phillips are out of stock for a few weeks and you have 30 days to return it to Amazon. Why not give it a try? If you have a light meter you could take readings and compare them to the Phillips when you get it.. I have used non OEM bulbs in other projectors and often they were just as good.

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Actually it might be worth trying. The information on non OEM bulbs may not be accurate and it could be good or bad. Usually non OEM bulbs list similar specifications that is why I think what is printed may be way off. The only way is to compare them. Since the Phillips are out of stock for a few weeks and you have 30 days to return it to Amazon. Why not give it a try? If you have a light meter you could take readings and compare them to the Phillips when you get it.. I have used non OEM bulbs in other projectors and often they were just as good.
I don't have a light meter. I don't want to spend time comparing bulbs in my projector. I just want to replace for an original for the next 2000 hours.

I just thought people would be interested in what I found on the packaging. Even if it's twice as good as it says it's still not as good as the Philips.
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Does anyone know if the chief rpa 020 mount will work with this projector & is this projector a huge step up from the Sony hw30?
Yes, that mount works with the VW285.
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There are better deals out there.
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Highly doubtful. Not less than 190hrs. 🙂

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Highly doubtful. Not less than 190hrs. 🙂
The AVS Store has had even a much better deal on B stock with brand new bulb.
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Highly doubtful. Not less than 190hrs. 🙂
The AVS Store has had even a much better deal on B stock with brand new bulb.
Is It calibrated and with Gamma Curves Installed? No.

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Is It calibrated and with Gamma Curves Installed? No.
Each unit should be calibrated for individual situation. (Screen Size, room and other things.) It takes 5 minutes to install the Gamma Curves and with the B stock unit you save a lot and get a full warranty.
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No idea about the mount I am afraid, but yes, it will be a massive step up from the HW30!

In fact you would be better off going for a 295 now if you are paying full whack/new.

If buying second hand then see it before buying if possible and see what warranty is left.

You will be pleased with either one but as I said, if paying 'new' money, the 295 is where my money would go at this stage.
Thanks!!! Not paying anything close to full price
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Is It calibrated and with Gamma Curves Installed? No.
You should stay away from the custom gamma curves. I initially thought they were great because they're pretty much the same on low lamp as the default setting on high lamp (at least it was on my Sony X800 player). Then I tried a Panny UB820 and it was on a whole new level. Then I moved to a HTPC with madvr and hdr clipping + 3dlut from displaycal. Even my mom and my wife who never notice anything related to picture quality both immediately found the jump in PQ pretty phenomenal.

So long story short, I tried a metric ton of different settings and hardware to extract all the performance from this projector and the custom gamma curves with my old Sony X800 was by far the worst of all , the second best was the Panny and the clear winner is the HTPC with madvr + the corrective 3dlut.
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Bought a 285 from AVS with a few hours on it, and installed it in a new 7.2.4 build with a X6500H and 1000 player. I have a 108 screen and 12 ft distance to MLP. As a long-time projector user (CRT's too), I'm very happy with the quality. It easily surpasses my others (except in brightness, which is plenty for me). I'm glad I didn't spend thousands more on a JVC.

So far, I've been picking up used remastered 4K Atmos titles from Ebay and Fye; need to look into other sources.
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Thanks!!! Not paying anything close to full price
Excellent. Always the best way.

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Can anyone recommend a good single outlet surge protector for this projector?
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Bought a 285 from AVS with a few hours on it, and installed it in a new 7.2.4 build with a X6500H and 1000 player. I have a 108 screen and 12 ft distance to MLP. As a long-time projector user (CRT's too), I'm very happy with the quality. It easily surpasses my others (except in brightness, which is plenty for me). I'm glad I didn't spend thousands more on a JVC.

So far, I've been picking up used remastered 4K Atmos titles from Ebay and Fye; need to look into other sources.
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I trust your seats are closer to the screen than the MLP?
Angle-wise, it is about where we would sit in a theater, but 10 ft still looks good without visible pixels. What distance would you sit?
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Hi Everyone,

Apologies in advance if this has already been answered in the thread but after 123 pages I must profess, my brain is a little overwhelmed with information!

I've recently picked up a Sony VPL-260ES (285ES UK equivalent I believe) and after much perusal of this thread, decided to pick up a Panasonic UB820 to compliment it, mainly for its tone mapping features and not wanting to rely too much on custom curves etc.

From what I can gather, the general advice for this particular combo is to set SDR2020 in the UB820 and then just tweak the slider based upon preference.

The question I've not managed to find an answer to at this point is:

Seeing at the 820 is now outputting at SDR2020 and not HDR, will I still run into the limitation at 4K 60FPS where the processor forces it down to 8 bit color? Or should that not come into effect now because the bandwidth required is lower?

I only ask because, from what I can gather, I can't limit the framerate on the built in streaming apps (Netflix and Prime) on the 820 like I can on my Roku to sidestep the downscaling issue, however I'd really like to be able to take advantage of the 820's tone mapping (HDR Optimizer) for my streaming content also.

Any guidance would be gratefully received and again, apologies if I've missed the answer somewhere else in the thread!
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