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I was wondering if anyone here that runs a HTPC could help me out. I had an Epson 3700 before I bought the 540 and 3D worked fine on it. I encoded movies using the top-and-bottom format and I never had a problem with it. I can't seem to get the JVC to work with it though. Oddly enough it seems to "engage" the 3D when I select side-by-side on the JVC. I have JRiver and no matter if I use that or MPC it does the exact same thing. Thought maybe it was settings in one or the other but like I said the Epson worked fine. Any ideas?
Anyone?? 3D is enabled in JRiver and the JVC is set to auto but still can't get any of my rips to work?

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Thanks I’m blind!. I will just be using the JVC software to upload them. I was going to try the 1200 curves but which one do you recommend, V1 2 or 3 ?, I have the X7900 in a non dedicated room with a plain white 1.0 gain screen.

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Thanks I’m blind!. I will just be using the JVC software to upload them. I was going to try the 1200 curves but which one do you recommend, V1 2 or 3 ?, I have the X7900 in a non dedicated room with a plain white 1.0 gain screen.

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You will want to use V3
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Thanks I’m blind!. I will just be using the JVC software to upload them. I was going to try the 1200 curves but which one do you recommend, V1 2 or 3 ?, I have the X7900 in a non dedicated room with a plain white 1.0 gain screen.

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You will want to use V3
Great thanks for that.
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Yeah not to sound smart, but if v1 or 2 was the one to use there would be no v3
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Yeah not to sound smart, but if v1 or 2 was the one to use there would be no v3 [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
I thought you may have deleted the others if they were old or not as good V3.

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I installed your curves. Instructions were fairly easy to follow. Thanks! As far as actually using them, I'm guessing you choose between Custom gamma 1 and 2 within the user setting. Do we base it off of the reported MaxCLL... i.e. if it reports 4000, choose custom 2 (assuming that's where it was installed). Which do we select if MaxCLL is 500 nits, or 2000 nits, etc? Is there a low enough rating where we would opt for a pre-defined gamma (A, B, etc)?
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Basically I would just use the 1200 curve until you see a maxcll way above that which will be pretty rare. You can probably still do it with 2000nit titles too. I wager you won't even be able to spot where it's clipping.
It's super annoying how many titles and HDR content don't report a MaxFALL & MaxCLL...when they do I get weird ones where the MaxCLL is like 10,000 but the MaxFALL is <500...so I use the 1200 nit curve knowing it will likely be appropriate for the majority of the content if the average is <500, and will clip on those random super bright pixels.

I typically don't use the 4000nit curve until the MaxCLL itself is at least 1000 with the MaxFALL being 3000 or greater. Obviously there is some content (I think Altered Carbon on Netflix is one that springs to mind) that actually has a MaxCLL above 2000-3000 which makes it a no brainer to use the 4000nit curve.

Ultimately I guess you just have to play around with it and find what works for you. When no MaxCLL or MaxFALL is reported I just go ahead and use the 1200nit curve.
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Folks, ran into a very strange issue last night. When I powered on my projector, it started up with these streaks of green lines. Powered off and on again and thankfully it came up fine.
Has anyone seen this before?
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Folks, ran into a very strange issue last night. When I powered on my projector, it started up with these streaks of green lines. Powered off and on again and thankfully it came up fine. Has anyone seen this before?
The color shift to green suggests a handshake issue, as does the fact that a power cycle corrected it. (The other way a handshake induced color shift can be seen is pink.)
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Owners on this thread are lucky in a bunch of ways, including that they aren't experiencing all the problems being reported by early adopters of the next generation JVC projectors. Feel bad for every one of those guys. Lots of us thought about it. Glad we stayed put. ✌️
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I've seen a JVC RS600 in my room and was blown away by it. Is it fair to say a RS540 would look as good as RS600? I'm tottering between upgrading now, or waiting for HDMI 2.1 and true 4K in a quality projector like one of these JVCs coming down to about $3K pricepoint. I'm guessing that's about 2 years out.

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I've seen a JVC RS600 in my room and was blown away by it. Is it fair to say a RS540 would look as good as RS600? I'm tottering between upgrading now, or waiting for HDMI 2.1 and true 4K coming down to about $3k - which seems to be maybe 2 years away?
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Folks, ran into a very strange issue last night. When I powered on my projector, it started up with these streaks of green lines. Powered off and on again and thankfully it came up fine.
Has anyone seen this before?
After 30 hours of operation on my X7900 appeared lines that you can see in the picture. I contacted the assistance and they replaced the optical group
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Form, fit and function are identical, it is just brightness you might notice some difference in - how noticeable depends on screen. If you already think it is bright I'm guessing your screen doesn't maintain much polarisation. You can work out how much already just by putting the xpands on and rotating your head 90 degrees while looking at the screen.
I tried flipping the glasses 90* on a bright 3D image I just could not see any difference in brightness. I was up till 4 am watching 3D movies last night lol. The Boss Baby 3D and Prometheus 3D both were absolutely incredible and had some high contrast scenes that had me floored. Ive never experienced super high contrast 3D before.

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I hope JVC produces these for a long, long time
I see so many people weighing the pros and cons of different projectors and Im thinking, "just get an RS540 and don't look back!"

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I tried flipping the glasses 90* on a bright 3D image I just could not see any difference in brightness. I was up till 4 am watching 3D movies last night lol. The Boss Baby 3D and Prometheus 3D both were absolutely incredible and had some high contrast scenes that had me floored. Ive never experienced super high contrast 3D before.
I doubt you'll see any difference with the JVC glasses then as that is effectively all that is different (and the silk screen printing on the legs).
If you measured it I guess you'd probably find a slight increase in brightness with the correct orientation (on something that didn't maintain significant polarisation I still saw 10% difference). 10% is pretty hard to notice with the naked eye though.
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Doubtful isn't it? I mean, these are pretty much on closeout sale I thought...
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Hi All,


Bit late to the party, picked up my X9900 recently.


I have uploaded Javs V3 1200 and 4000nit curves via Arve, Download R masciolas Patterns, Just a few things i am unsure off.


When setting targeted luminence, i used the 100% white pattern of AvsHD709. I also used it to set luminence in HDR mode. i was able to obtain 36ftl with low lamp iris wide open. Did i use the wrong pattern for setting it in HDR? i could not find a 100% white pattern with the Masciola Suite.


When adjusting BBO levels and aiming for black at bar 64, do i leave the IRIS in manuel mode? and after completion do i set it back to Auto Di 1 or 2 or leave in manuel?


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Bit late to the party, picked up my X9900 recently.


I have uploaded Javs V3 1200 and 4000nit curves via Arve, Download R masciolas Patterns, Just a few things i am unsure off.


When setting targeted luminence, i used the 100% white pattern of AvsHD709. I also used it to set luminence in HDR mode. i was able to obtain 36ftl with low lamp iris wide open. Did i use the wrong pattern for setting it in HDR? i could not find a 100% white pattern with the Masciola Suite.


When adjusting BBO levels and aiming for black at bar 64, do i leave the IRIS in manuel mode? and after completion do i set it back to Auto Di 1 or 2 or leave in manuel?


Cheers
Iris should be in manual mode and I would also turn off clear black while setting the black level. When you are finished you can then leave the Iris in Manual or set it to one of the Auto modes.
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I’m trying to import Javs 1200 nit gamma using the JVC software but it won’t recognise it, I just clicked on the V3 cures and put them onto my desktop the same as I did for mannis and Dominic’s, I’m not very good in this area with laptops, I guess I’m doing something dumb ?.
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I’m trying to import Javs 1200 nit gamma using the JVC software but it won’t recognise it, I just clicked on the V3 cures and put them onto my desktop the same as I did for mannis and Dominic’s, I’m not very good in this area with laptops, I guess I’m doing something dumb ?.
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Javs curves are available in both .conf format and .jgd format. You have to use Arves Tool and JVC Autocal for them, respectively.
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I’m trying to import Javs 1200 nit gamma using the JVC software but it won’t recognise it, I just clicked on the V3 cures and put them onto my desktop the same as I did for mannis and Dominic’s, I’m not very good in this area with laptops, I guess I’m doing something dumb ?.
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Javs curves are available in both .conf format and .jgd format. You have to use Arves Tool and JVC Autocal for them, respectively.
Thanks Dominic, I see on my desktop they are in .conf format so that's the reason why then, I can't seem to find them in the .jgd format ?. I use the JVC autocal.

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Thanks Dominic, I see on my desktop they are in .conf format so that's the reason why then, I can't seem to find them in the .jgd format ?. I use the JVC autocal.
They are under his v3 85 nits curves
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Has anyone seen this before?
I've seen that artifact on my system. It was an HDMI handshake problem. After tightening the cable at both ends the problem has not appeared again.

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I doubt you'll see any difference with the JVC glasses then as that is effectively all that is different (and the silk screen printing on the legs).
If you measured it I guess you'd probably find a slight increase in brightness with the correct orientation (on something that didn't maintain significant polarisation I still saw 10% difference). 10% is pretty hard to notice with the naked eye though.
Thanks. Ya if there is a change going on I can't perceive it.

They certainly do look IDENTICAL. Like you said the screen printing is probably all.

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Thanks. Ya if there is a change going on I can't perceive it.

They certainly do look IDENTICAL. Like you said the screen printing is probably all.
I have a pair of Sim branded glasses which are identical to, I can’t remember if I mentioned it but 3 out of my 5 pairs now have a split in the nose bridge on the inside. Also 2 pairs have broken plastic where the pins go into the legs. They still work ok though, it’s a shame as I’m the only one who handles them and I’m extremely careful so just something to watch out for.
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I have a pair of Sim branded glasses which are identical to, I can’t remember if I mentioned it but 3 out of my 5 pairs now have a split in the nose bridge on the inside. Also 2 pairs have broken plastic where the pins go into the legs. They still work ok though, it’s a shame as I’m the only one who handles them and I’m extremely careful so just something to watch out for.
Yes you did mention that and after wearing them I can totally see that happening. It seems to have a weak point right between the lens on the frame. If someone was to take them off real quick and a leg catches I could easily see it snap. I too will usually be the only one handiling them and Im going to be very carful. Thanks alot.
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If you ask @dlbeck to compare his 500 to my X790R, he should give you a pretty good take, as he's seen them both.



EDIT: Wait, never mind, he didn't make the 2001 screening, so he hasn't seen mine yet. oop:


I take it you’ve seen both. What are your thoughts. (Recognizing different rooms, screen sizes, conditions etc)

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I've seen a JVC RS600 in my room and was blown away by it. Is it fair to say a RS540 would look as good as RS600? I'm tottering between upgrading now, or waiting for HDMI 2.1 and true 4K in a quality projector like one of these JVCs coming down to about $3K pricepoint. I'm guessing that's about 2 years out.
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I take it you’ve seen both. What are your thoughts. (Recognizing different rooms, screen sizes, conditions etc)
I have the X790 and it is a great projector however I am not sure you are going to see a night and day difference between your RS600 and the RS540. Are they not both eShift projectors?

I personally would love to see a $3000 native 4K JVC projector but I don't think that will happen. Mostly the prices stay the same on each model, year in and out, as each model is upgraded.

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