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I am looking at purchasing the X590 to replace my existing Panasonic AE3000 on which the bulb is now dying

My issue is that we will probably be moving the next year, and expect to build a new home theater room, and am trying to minimize buying much more equipment for now.

I currently have an Onkyo TX-727 receiver, which while it has 4K pass-through only has HDMI 1.4 ports

Thus if I have read everything else correctly I could use the Monoprice HDMI switch linked below to run one output of my Oppo203 to the switch and the other to the TX-727 for sound.

In addition probably need a new HDMI cable and looking at the attached Monoprice cable

If anybody has, any thoughts on this would appreciate the feedback before I buy the projector
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All Oppo players, including the UDP-203 and going back at least to the BDP-93, have dual HDMI outputs precisely to deal with AVRs that cannot pass through the latest video standard. HDMI 1 has the best video processing and can be run either through a current AVR as the only cable, or directly to the display or projector, with HDMI 2 going to the AVR for sound. No switch needed.


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All Oppo players, including the UDP-203 and going back at least to the BDP-93, have dual HDMI outputs precisely to deal with AVRs that cannot pass through the latest video standard. HDMI 1 has the best video processing and can be run either through a current AVR as the only cable, or directly to the display or projector, with HDMI 2 going to the AVR for sound. No switch needed.
Thanks . The switch is needed for non HDR content that will still be going through the receiver such as TV from my cable box, X Box one (with HD DVD drive) etc
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@enricoclaudio , I just got my RS420 calibrated, and I came from a Sony 40 ES. The Sony is a great projector, and does 1080P well, but these JVC's are awesome, even as E-shift.
Yes they are Who did you calibration? What do you think about the before and after difference?
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I thought Doug did a great job. He explained what he was doing while calibrating, as much as my feeble mind could withstand. The before and after calibration reports open my eyes as well. I think that the blacks look better, contrast seems better, and maybe a tad brighter for 4K UHD viewing. I was looking up Chad B, but he was not coming this way until fall, and I had an opportunity that enabled me to have the house to myself most of the weekend. Really happy with the results. Now to maybe get a Panny UB820 and see what else I can see with the JVC.
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A question I posted here three days ago has gotten no response:

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For the past three or so years I've had a Darbee Darblet on the path from my AVR to my Panasonic PT-AE2000 1080p projector so it can enhance all sources.

Since the Darbee can't pass 4K signals, I may have to set up two connections from the AVR to the JVC DLA-RS440 - one direct and one through the Darbee - so I can have the Darbee enhancement on 1080 and 480 signals - unless the RS440's own upscaling does a good job itself. In reading through the manual, I saw that it has what appears to be its own approach to enhancing non-4K images.

Anyone here familiar with Darbee who can chime in on how JVC's enhancement of 1080 (and below) signals compares to Darbee's?
I've been told in the Oppo 203 thread that its upscaling of sub-4K material is so good that the Darbee would go unused most of the time, but I would love to hear about how good the JVC's enhancement is, and whether it could work in tandem with a 1080 Darbee'd signal. Does anyone here have anything to contribute?

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Please pardon my ignorance and stupid question.

Will the vertical lens shift on a JVC X590 be able to avoid/shift the image if there is a vertical obstruction (a dropped ceiling)?

I just realized a made a very big mistake putting a dropped ceiling in my projector path hence the question?

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Please pardon my ignorance and stupid question.

Will the vertical lens shift on a JVC X590 be able to avoid/shift the image if there is a vertical obstruction (a dropped ceiling)?

I just realized a made a very big mistake putting a dropped ceiling in my projector path hence the question?

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I've got a similar situation. I have a 9.5" tall support beam running across the ceiling halfway to the screen.

Shift can't avoid the obstruction, so the projector has to shoot up from under the obstruction.

My solution - still theoretical as the room is under construction - has been to draw an imaginary line from the top of my intended screen area - the ceiling line - under the front of the support beam back to the projector location, and use that point - about twice as far down from the ceiling as the bottom of the support beam - as the height limit for the top of the projector's lens. To be safe, I'll put it a little lower than that and use shift to fine-tune the image's position.

Anyone here agree or disagree with this?


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Please pardon my ignorance and stupid question.

Will the vertical lens shift on a JVC X590 be able to avoid/shift the image if there is a vertical obstruction (a dropped ceiling)?

I just realized a made a very big mistake putting a dropped ceiling in my projector path hence the question?

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Even with lens shift, you still need a clear line of sight between the project and the screen. If you have an obstruction you may need to install the projector lower.

EDIT: Philnick beat me to it and provided a more detailed reply.

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I've got a similar situation. I have a 9.5" tall support beam running across the ceiling halfway to the screen.

Shift can't avoid the obstruction, so the projector has to shoot up from under the obstruction.

My solution - still theoretical as the room is under construction - has been to draw an imaginary line from the top of my intended screen area - the ceiling line - under the front of the support beam back to the projector location, and use that point - about twice as far down from the ceiling as the bottom of the support beam - as the height limit for the top of the projector's lens. To be safe, I'll put it a little lower than that and use shift to fine-tune the image's position.

Anyone here agree or disagree with this?
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Even with lens shift, you still need a clear line of sight between the project and the screen. If you have an obstruction you may need to install the projector lower.

EDIT: Philnick beat me to it and provided a more detailed reply.
Thank you, my room is still under construction but my options to correct are very expensive. break the wall and go lower or remove the newly installed dropped ceiling.

i just might be able to get away with it based on @Philnick 's explanation i have about 6-7 cm unobstructed from the ceiling to the lens. Its also theoretical at this point as i wont have the projector in hand until about 3 weeks time.

thanks again guys for your help.

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i just might be able to get away with it based on @Philnick 's explanation i have about 6-7 cm unobstructed from the ceiling to the lens. Its also theoretical at this point as i wont have the projector in hand until about 3 weeks time.
Even without the projector, you can position yourself such that your eyes are where you plan to place the projector, and confirm from that position you can see the top of the screen unobstructed by the drop ceiling.

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Even without the projector, you can position yourself such that your eyes are where you plan to place the projector, and confirm that from that position you can see the top of the screen unobstructed by the drop ceiling.
i plan to test that this weekend, thanks again

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I just got a jvc dla-590r and have a question about sources and HDR.

My first 4k source is an Apple TV 4k. When I hooked it up, the screen was blank but I was finally able to get it outputting 4k/60Hz. I could not however output 4K HDR. The ATV 4K supports Dolby Vision and HDR-10. The JVC doesn't support DV. When i tried to manually select 4k HDR, the ATV reported a cable problem. This would not be surprising as I installed the in-wall cabling 3 years ago using cables I'd bought 8 years ago for my 1080p projector. I'm happy to at least be able to make 4k work. At some point I'll have to open the walls/ceiling a bit to push new cable through but not for now...

Does the ATV 4K normally choose the best version of HDR your display can support? What about source media like Blu-Ray UHD disks? Are they either HDR-10 or DV? Is there any conversion possible between them? Also, what are the chances JVC provides a DV firmware upgrade?

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Just ordered RS440 for 2600$. Got an amazing deal I think. Really excited to join club
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Is anyone aware of a good source if I want to attempt calibrating myself? I'm projecting on a gray wall right now (it actually looks pretty good to my eyes). That said, I'm trying to convince my wife to allow me to get a screen. The projector is in the living room so its been a tough sell...

Also any tips in relation to using the x590r in conjunction with the panasonic ub820 in terms of specific settings? I read as much of this thread as I have time for right now...

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Anyone who has calibrated mind sharing details of settings? I understand settings vary from unit to unit n room scenarios but want to have ball park settings for dark room.


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What’s typical price for calibration? Looking to get ballpark number


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this is the only post i have seen with recommendations.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post56247778
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this is the only post i have seen with recommendations.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post56247778
Can also take a look at this:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...rs-thread.html
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Depends....but $500 would not be out of line for an excellent job by an excellent Calibrator.

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and this too 790 settings
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I have dedicated home theater room that I built around my DLA-RS40U which just died / not worth fixing, looking to replace with the X590BR. I assume my ceiling mount won't change. Little bit disappointed with JVC with my recently passed projector ( bulb issues ir/led board/ ballast / scaler cpu board. Is this model type solid? Any issues or concerns one should think about prior to the big buy. Thank you.
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Does anyone know if projectorpeople are authorized jvc dealer. Their website claims it but cant find anything on JVC and called JVC told me same


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Roku and Projector

I just got a JVC RS440 recently but unfortunately I have a Pioneer VSX80 receiver that "is 4K" ready but doesn't have HDCP 2.2. I would like to stream 4K content from my Roku Stick+. I understand that I cannot get UHD content with I use the Roku with the receiver and run the signal to the projector. However, can I use the Roku stick directly with the projector and run audio down to the receiver? If this works, would I miss out on anything? I will need a new receiver if I add a Bluray player to this but was hoping to postpone that for a little longer. If I do need a new receiver - any recommendations? I have a 5.1 setup now but may want to add Atmos enabled speakers to my normal speakers. Room has 8ft ceilings, 14 feet from projector to screen but open to the hall and stairs going up.
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Not sure, but I would reach out to Mike Garrett of AVScience....they are definitely authorized.
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Just got the X590BR replacing my RS40U. Wow just amazed so nice straight out of the box. Forgot how easy it was to setup / dial the picture in. Thank you powered shift, focus and zoom!
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Hi everyone,

Is there anybody using JVC 5900 (440) with apple TV 4? Is frame rate match on ATV works with JVC? Does it really switches the projector's frame rate to match the source?

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I have dedicated home theater room that I built around my DLA-RS40U which just died / not worth fixing, looking to replace with the X590BR. I assume my ceiling mount won't change. Little bit disappointed with JVC with my recently passed projector ( bulb issues ir/led board/ ballast / scaler cpu board. Is this model type solid? Any issues or concerns one should think about prior to the big buy. Thank you.
The RS440 has been a pretty solid projector. I would not be worried about buying one.
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