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post #1351 of 1556 Old 01-24-2019, 05:14 AM
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Thank you for the update on the upgrade I'm happy to hear that you are enjoying the improvements.

I am planning on keeping my UHZ65 for a fairly long time and would love to be able to see the upgraded version in person. The cost is a bit out of my current budget.

Thanks again for the info.

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Installed my new 40ft. HDMI fiber optic cable last night and it gave a rock solid signal from the receiver to the projector. Apple TV 4k HDR signal went through the Onkyo to the Optoma and decoded at the full specifications with ease. Even the 1080p from Direct TV looked better Well worth the $170 investment.
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I played around more with my upgraded projector from TVSpecialists.com and I hit my sweet spot for non-HDR 4k material and 1080 DirecTV. Using cinema or reference mode, the settings that came back were slightly less color saturated than I desired so I just tweaked up the color a little and all I can say is wow... Out of the park home run. I don't know how color banding is no longer an issue but I didn't see any where there was before out of certain Netflix and Amazon videos. For example, during the Bosch theme opening (on Amazon) when viewing the sky sequence, there was always terrible banding. Not anymore. I maintain the colors are outstanding. I played a 4k video on YouTube that I had viewed pre-upgrade featuring some colored pencils against a black background, those blacks look amazing to me now.

The demo video on YouTube doesn't really give it justice as compared to actual viewing of the projector in your own environment.

My twin pennies. I will say this, this projector really tasked my learning curve with calibration and image settings getting it to where I am today. From Ronnie's calibration settings to the upgrade, it's been a journey but I am tickled by current performance.

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awesome! I saw TVSPRo youtube comparing regular uhz65 to the upgraded version! 80% of bt2020 is enticing, laser, etc.



I really enjoy my uhd60, for 4k games and movies. Only thing holding me back on uhz65 upgraded would be the input lag for games, uhd60 is supposedly 55-63ms and the uhz65 is 80ms ? Does the uhz65 have a game mode to keep input lag down ? Do you use your uhz65 for games and can you notice game lag at all?



I bet all your 4K UHD movies and even 709 blu rays look amazing on the projector! I would love to see HDR video games on it as well; besides HDR 4K UHD movies.

Enjoy your upgrade!!

If you have time, please post any images of your upgraded 4K HDR movie images! thanks!
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Just heard back from Optoma regarding UHZ65 Firmware.


Dear Jason,

Checking with my products manager, the current firmware is C11, C14 is a region based upgrade only for that other region based on localization settings/options.

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I have heard back from the Italien tech support and they also confirm that the latest firmware is C11.
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[QUOTE=am2model3;57497714]awesome! I saw TVSPRo youtube comparing regular uhz65 to the upgraded version! 80% of bt2020 is enticing, laser, etc.



I really enjoy my uhd60, for 4k games and movies. Only thing holding me back on uhz65 upgraded would be the input lag for games, uhd60 is supposedly 55-63ms and the uhz65 is 80ms ? Does the uhz65 have a game mode to keep input lag down ? Do you use your uhz65 for games and can you notice game lag at all?


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I haven't gamed on it and am a poor resource for lag comparisons or experience. I will try to post pics at some point.
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awesome! I saw TVSPRo youtube comparing regular uhz65 to the upgraded version! 80% of bt2020 is enticing, laser, etc.



I really enjoy my uhd60, for 4k games and movies. Only thing holding me back on uhz65 upgraded would be the input lag for games, uhd60 is supposedly 55-63ms and the uhz65 is 80ms ? Does the uhz65 have a game mode to keep input lag down ? Do you use your uhz65 for games and can you notice game lag at all?


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I haven't gamed on it and am a poor resource for lag comparisons or experience. I will try to post pics at some point.
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There is no game mode that I am aware of. The input lag is on the higher side compared to some projectors. Personally I do not notice any issues with it but have only been gaming with it on an Xbox console. I am not a competitive gamer, so it may not matter much to me. I have not heard any complaints from anyone else in the house that is gaming. It could be that the overall experience of playing on a big screen and 7.4.1 sound makes up for the extra lag. They are having fun which is the most important thing for me.

That TVSPro mod looks enticing to me as well, but it is not that I feel I am missing anything with the setup as it is.
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What anamorphic lens are you guys using for 2.35:1 ?
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This project has been on the market for way over a year... anyone no if there's younger model who will replace this projector?
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Finally finished up the install and have settled on some settings in my moderately lit room. I am loving it in this situation really works great with the ambient light still a vibrant picture on the 102" screen. This was just a feed from direct tv BBC america Planet Earth but that channel is not the best to really show it off.
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I am interested in UHZ65 for gaming. any comments on 80ms input lag; and 30fps vs 60fps gaming is welcome! Thanks! would the calculation be: 33ms +80 (for 30fps games) and 16ms+80 (for 60fps games) ?
113 and 96 ms input? Currently I am 58ms+(game ms) on my PJ and am happy; i don't notice any lag.
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I've had an Optoma UHZ65 for about 6 months and it's a quantum leap past my old Epsom Projector! I've been quite ecstatic with the picture quality and brightness of the image however I'm using a HTPC running Windows 10 and for whatever reason I've not been able to take advantage of HDR capability of the projector!

In the Advanced display setting for Optoma UHD it shows 3840 x 2160 30Hz 8-bit RGB Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) and I'm not able to increase the refresh rate beyond 30hz and the box to show additional refresh rates is grayed out. Under monitor type it shows Generic PnP Monitor! All of my PC components are also about 6 months old including my GTX 1070 graphics card, motherboard, i5 CPU are all up to spec for displaying HDR content and I'm using PowerDVD 18 to play MKV HDR 4K videos.

I've seen other people being able to play HDR videos using Windows 10 on an Optoma UHD65 so I'm not sure why I'm having problems and I haven't been able to find much information on this subject. I don't believe there are any Windows 10 drivers for the Optoma UHZ65 (something like that might help)!

If anyone can help me with this or even explain to me why Windows 10 doesn't want to recognize the Optoma UHZ65 as being HDR capable on let me increase the refresh rate to higher than 30Hz that would be fantastic!

I'm also still trying to work out how to bit stream the audio to my Yamaha RX-A3070?

Both of these issue are annoying but I'm still happy because both the video and audio are a quantum leap beyond my original setup but I still hope I can eventually sort both problems out!
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I've had an Optoma UHZ65 for about 6 months and it's a quantum leap past my old Epsom Projector! I've been quite ecstatic with the picture quality and brightness of the image however I'm using a HTPC running Windows 10 and for whatever reason I've not been able to take advantage of HDR capability of the projector!

In the Advanced display setting for Optoma UHD it shows 3840 x 2160 30Hz 8-bit RGB Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) and I'm not able to increase the refresh rate beyond 30hz and the box to show additional refresh rates is grayed out. Under monitor type it shows Generic PnP Monitor! All of my PC components are also about 6 months old including my GTX 1070 graphics card, motherboard, i5 CPU are all up to spec for displaying HDR content and I'm using PowerDVD 18 to play MKV HDR 4K videos.

I've seen other people being able to play HDR videos using Windows 10 on an Optoma UHD65 so I'm not sure why I'm having problems and I haven't been able to find much information on this subject. I don't believe there are any Windows 10 drivers for the Optoma UHZ65 (something like that might help)!

If anyone can help me with this or even explain to me why Windows 10 doesn't want to recognize the Optoma UHZ65 as being HDR capable on let me increase the refresh rate to higher than 30Hz that would be fantastic!

I'm also still trying to work out how to bit stream the audio to my Yamaha RX-A3070?

Both of these issue are annoying but I'm still happy because both the video and audio are a quantum leap beyond my original setup but I still hope I can eventually sort both problems out!
As I know,the most important thing is Windows 10 must update the monitor drivers for UHZ65. If it recognized the UHZ65 as Generic PnP Monitor,something goes wrong.
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is 30 hz your only option? do you have 2160p/60hz options? might want to check you are using a full 18gbps HDMI cable and the proper hdmi 2.0 port on your projector. on my uhd60 i get 2160p/60 HDR for games works
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So I want to update you on the banding issue I saw on Blade runner 2049. The Oppo was outputting 4:2:2 10 bit hdr 24 hz for unknown reasons. Forcing the Oppo to output 4:2:0 or 4:4:4 there is no banding issue. The same happens with the roku. Watching hdr content on amazon prime such as grand tour, the roku and the the vpr lock into 4:2:2 10 bit hdr with evident banding. Trying demo material fro. Samsung, LG and Sony in hdr 10 bit 60 hz the Chroma would be set to 4:2:2 regardless I had the setting on the Oppo to auto or 4:4:4. The only way to get rid of banding is not to use 4:2:2 regardless of the source being used.
Now I am wondering if the C11 firmware got rid of this issue.
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Hello guys.

I am really keen to pick one of these projectors up.

The only area of concern being the lag.

I did search but didn’t find much.

I have a ps4 and wheel.
Are driving games possible as that is something I would spend a good few hours doing ?

I know first person shooter lag would kill it but driving ? Probably needs it just as much.

I am comming from a Sony VPL-HW55es. (Lightning killed it)
It was only 1080p and 1700lumens but worked perfectly for gaming and movies were amazing.

Think the UHZ will cope ?
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Hello guys.

I am really keen to pick one of these projectors up.

The only area of concern being the lag.

I did search but didn’t find much.

I have a ps4 and wheel.
Are driving games possible as that is something I would spend a good few hours doing ?

I know first person shooter lag would kill it but driving ? Probably needs it just as much.

I am comming from a Sony VPL-HW55es. (Lightning killed it)
It was only 1080p and 1700lumens but worked perfectly for gaming and movies were amazing.

Think the UHZ will cope ?
The lag is high compared to some projectors on the market. I have a racing wheel, but have not been using it much lately so. I have been playing catch up on series and movies and hardly gaming with my spare time. When I do play, the games do look absolutely amazing on this. Everything looks pretty amazing to me on this projector.

I don't notice the lag playing on an Xbox One X, but I am not very competitive in racing or shooters. I enjoy gaming, if I win great, if I don't... who cares. The wheel just makes the racing games more fun. I have had the UHZ65 for about a year and it would be hard for me to compare to my old setup with a projector with much less reported lag. I mentioned several times before, nobody at my house has ever complained about any lag related issues, but they could just be enjoying the immersiveness of the overall setup and putting up with the extra 40ms or so of lag or not noticing it.
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So I want to update you on the banding issue I saw on Blade runner 2049. The Oppo was outputting 4:2:2 10 bit hdr 24 hz for unknown reasons. Forcing the Oppo to output 4:2:0 or 4:4:4 there is no banding issue. The same happens with the roku. Watching hdr content on amazon prime such as grand tour, the roku and the the vpr lock into 4:2:2 10 bit hdr with evident banding. Trying demo material fro. Samsung, LG and Sony in hdr 10 bit 60 hz the Chroma would be set to 4:2:2 regardless I had the setting on the Oppo to auto or 4:4:4. The only way to get rid of banding is not to use 4:2:2 regardless of the source being used.
Now I am wondering if the C11 firmware got rid of this issue.

Yes I have reported something similar long ago saying that the only thing that cured the banding I saw was using 4:4:4 chroma subsampling. This sounds similar. It’s strange because it’s bit depth that results in banding, not chroma. So these Optomas have some sort of processing anomaly causing banding with anything but 4:4:4 (although you report 4:2:0 also).

I don’t recall C11 fixing it, but I’m not 100% positive.
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Thanks Dave. I confirm that with 4:2:0 there is no banding as well. What I seem to notice is that with 4:4:4 colours seem deeper and contrast some what better, but I could be totally wrong. I will try to capture some pictures when I am back home and find some spare time.
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Thanks Dave. I confirm that with 4:2:0 there is no banding as well. What I seem to notice is that with 4:4:4 colours seem deeper and contrast some what better, but I could be totally wrong. I will try to capture some pictures when I am back home and find some spare time.

I do remember trying 4:2:0 and it didn’t work for me, but I don’t recall what the bit depth was so that could’ve been a factor.
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Finally finished up the install and have settled on some settings in my moderately lit room. I am loving it in this situation really works great with the ambient light still a vibrant picture on the 102" screen. This was just a feed from direct tv BBC america Planet Earth but that channel is not the best to really show it off.
Looks nice with some ambient light, just curious what the screen is? 1.0 gain white or an ALR?

Has anyone had this pj professionally calibrated and was it worth it? On Optoma US website one of the reviews refers back to this thread and talks about RoNNy379CH's calibration settings. I know unit to unit variation and screen and room make every calibration different but just wondered if laser pjs lent themselves to a one size fits all calibration settings more than lamp based? It would be nice to have a "torch mode" calibration for ambient light and an "Movie mode" for night time with darkest black levels and an "HDR mode" for fullest color saturation and highest highlights.

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Looks nice with some ambient light, just curious what the screen is? 1.0 gain white or an ALR?

Has anyone had this pj professionally calibrated and was it worth it? On Optoma US website one of the reviews refers back to this thread and talks about RoNNy379CH's calibration settings. I know unit to unit variation and screen and room make every calibration different but just wondered if laser pjs lent themselves to a one size fits all calibration settings more than lamp based? It would be nice to have a "torch mode" calibration for ambient light and an "Movie mode" for night time with darkest black levels and an "HDR mode" for fullest color saturation and highest highlights.
It is a 1.0 gain white screen. I think what makes it work in that space is that I have control over light around and approaching the screen with tight spots and baffled filters in front of each light. coming from two older projectors that put out about 2000 lumens to this one that moved up to 3000 lumens seems to be the trick for getting the right balance in non light controlled room. I have been super pleased with the result and guest have all commented on the new image and how great it looks.
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Looks nice with some ambient light, just curious what the screen is? 1.0 gain white or an ALR?

Has anyone had this pj professionally calibrated and was it worth it? On Optoma US website one of the reviews refers back to this thread and talks about RoNNy379CH's calibration settings. I know unit to unit variation and screen and room make every calibration different but just wondered if laser pjs lent themselves to a one size fits all calibration settings more than lamp based? It would be nice to have a "torch mode" calibration for ambient light and an "Movie mode" for night time with darkest black levels and an "HDR mode" for fullest color saturation and highest highlights.
I would highly suggest professional calibration if possible. I found the OOTB performance to be not very good. After Dave Harper did his magic it was like night and day. I really don’t recommend using someone elses calibration settings. In my experience it is just not accurate.
I use a 102” 1.0 gain white screen (Carada, sure wish they were still in business) with lots of ambient light and it looks great.
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I would highly suggest professional calibration if possible. I found the OOTB performance to be not very good. After Dave Harper did his magic it was like night and day. I really don’t recommend using someone elses calibration settings. In my experience it is just not accurate.
I use a 102” 1.0 gain white screen (Carada, sure wish they were still in business) with lots of ambient light and it looks great.
However, the beauty of someone else's settings is that they only take a few minutes to try, can be written over by an isf person, and they are free.
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Want it.

I was intending to purchase the Optoma UHZ65 Projector.
Unfortunately, because of space limitations, I have to place the projector dead center facing the screen.
With the limited vertical lens shift of only 15%, that won't work for me.
Very disappointed.
Hope Optoma will release an upgraded model with a broader lens shift.
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I will omit the reasons that led me to make a new contrast and brightness calibration of the vpr and go right in to the problem I am facing. To do my calibration I use the Spears & Munsil Edition 1 blu ray disc. I started from the low plunge pattern and gradually proceeded with the usual calibrations discovering that I could not get the ramp from 18 to 253 as recommended by the authors of the disc. I then whent to the clipping pattern and saw all the colours clipped. Working on the contrast control did something for white and green, but nothing on red and blue that remained a solid colour rather than dispaying the concentric tone levels. At this point I set the vpr in RGB 16-235 and the Oppo UDP 203 in RGB VIDEO LEVEL and things got back to normal.
Has anyone else noticed these strange peculiarity? How did you solve it? Do you have your player set to output RGB or YUV 4: 4: 4? Any advice will be welcomed.
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Can anyone try the clipping test patterns in SDR and let me know if with YUV you have issues? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Does anyone know where I could demo a UHZ65 in the Auburn/Montgomery Alabama or even Atlanta Georgia area? I'm ready to pull the trigger on one of these, but I'm not sure if I'll see any RBE. So I'd like to demo one first.

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