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Thanks for all the great info.

I'm in the process of setting up a drop down screen in a fairly large family room, that will have ambient light, especially during the day. Would you guys recommend the UHZ65 or is the BenQ LK990 (or something else) better for this environment? I will be able to hang the projector from the ceiling and have as much depth as needed from the screen.

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Thanks for all the great info.

I'm in the process of setting up a drop down screen in a fairly large family room, that will have ambient light, especially during the day. Would you guys recommend the UHZ65 or is the BenQ LK990 (or something else) better for this environment? I will be able to hang the projector from the ceiling and have as much depth as needed from the screen.

Thanks in advance!
I have no experience with the BenQ but I do own the UHZ65. I have it in my non-dedicated home theater/man cave which has tons of ambient light during the day. The UHZ65 is plenty bright.

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I have no experience with the BenQ but I do own the UHZ65. I have it in my non-dedicated home theater/man cave which has tons of ambient light during the day. The UHZ65 is plenty bright.
Is the hanging height a big issue with this model. I have ceilings that are almost 12 feet high. I'm planning on the mechanical screen being about 120" diagonal, but I'm worried about the angle that the projector would need to hit.
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Thanks for all the great info.



I'm in the process of setting up a drop down screen in a fairly large family room, that will have ambient light, especially during the day. Would you guys recommend the UHZ65 or is the BenQ LK990 (or something else) better for this environment? I will be able to hang the projector from the ceiling and have as much depth as needed from the screen.



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I have no experience with the BenQ but I do own the UHZ65. I have it in my non-dedicated home theater/man cave which has tons of ambient light during the day. The UHZ65 is plenty bright.


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Is the hanging height a big issue with this model. I have ceilings that are almost 12 feet high. I'm planning on the mechanical screen being about 120" diagonal, but I'm worried about the angle that the projector would need to hit.

I think it all comes down to budget and placement.

The LK970 has much better lens shift abilities (65/35 vs 15/0 off the top of my head?), the best lens on anything under $30K, very low RBE, sharpness and detail to die for and brightness out the wazoo. Of course this all comes with a price premium about twice that of the UHZ65 street.

Bottom line, if your budget is capped about $3,500, aren’t susceptible to RBE and you don’t need the lens shift for your install, then go with the UHZ65. It’s an amazing projector for the money, probably one of the best overall in that price range. I would highly recommend you look at the TVS modified UHZ65 too. If you can afford the LK970 or 990 and/or the lens shift doesn’t work and you need better RBE performance, then yes it’s the much better machine.
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Is the hanging height a big issue with this model. I have ceilings that are almost 12 feet high. I'm planning on the mechanical screen being about 120" diagonal, but I'm worried about the angle that the projector would need to hit.
With the UHZ65 you get zero horizontal lens shift and minimal vertical shift. Basically you need to have the projector centered on the screen with the lens roughly at the height of the top edge of the screen. IIRC you get about a 15% vertical lens shift. So for a ceiling mount you need to have the lens even with the top edge of the screen or a maximum of 15% below.
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With the UHZ65 you get zero horizontal lens shift and minimal vertical shift. Basically you need to have the projector centered on the screen with the lens roughly at the height of the top edge of the screen. IIRC you get about a 15% vertical lens shift. So for a ceiling mount you need to have the lens even with the top edge of the screen or a maximum of 15% below.

I thought it was 15% above when inverted for a ceiling mount?
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I thought it was 15% above when inverted for a ceiling mount?
I’m sure you’re right Dave. I had the opposite problem...sorry about that.
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Could you clarify 15% of what for the lens shift? My current projector is pretty close to the top of my screen, but it would require quite a bit of rework for me to move it lower if I went with the UHZ65. Moving the A-lens would be a hassle.

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Could you clarify 15% of what for the lens shift? My current projector is pretty close to the top of my screen, but it would require quite a bit of rework for me to move it lower if I went with the UHZ65. Moving the A-lens would be a hassle.
If the projector lens is roughly even with the top of the screen you should be fine.

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I have thourghly tested the vpr for clipping in sdr and hdr and confirm it does clip all colours and white in sdr and red and blue in hdr. The square boxes in the clipping test on the spears and munsil disc are all solid and on the masciola hdr10 disc Red has only one gradient only while blue three. This is having the Oppo set to output yuv 444. Setting it to output RGB video level everything works fine. Black is no longer clipped and all colour gredients in sdr are fine. To get the best in hdr you need to set the hdr dynamic range to detail. I advise other owners to check if the issue is common to all the machines.
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I'd never noticed this dimension on the calculator, but do I understand that the center of the lens needs to be within 10" of the top of the screen (when ceiling mounted upside down)?

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Could you clarify 15% of what for the lens shift? My current projector is pretty close to the top of my screen, but it would require quite a bit of rework for me to move it lower if I went with the UHZ65. Moving the A-lens would be a hassle.
This should help:

https://www.optoma.com/us/calculator/


IIRC, lens shift = 15% of image height. So if you throw an image 60in high then image shift is 9in.
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For those interested in the clipping issue I have uploaded the photos of the test patterns https://1drv.ms/f/s!AuZ7yeDscfZZhJoRDf6MhgJrLGYeIg The titles of the files should be self explenatory
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https://www.optoma.com/us/calculator/


IIRC, lens shift = 15% of image height. So if you throw an image 60in high then image shift is 9in.
Thanks! It never occurred to me to check the vendor website.

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Does anyone know where I could demo a UHZ65 in the Auburn/Montgomery Alabama or even Atlanta Georgia area? I'm ready to pull the trigger on one of these, but I'm not sure if I'll see any RBE. So I'd like to demo one first.

Do you ever make it down into FL? I have a buddy in New Port Richey, just north of Tampa, who has a UHZ65. Might be able to set up a demo if you need to.


But I'll tell you this, if you're susceptible to RBE, you will see it. I am and I can't ignore how bad it is on this model. But, my buddy is as well, and he says he gets used to it and doesn't see it much anymore. So it's user-dependent on how it'll affect you.
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While I'm in this thread catching up....


Has anyone heard more about the possible C15 F/W that was supposedly released overseas and brings Blu-Ray 3D?


Any time-frame for it coming stateside?
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Do you ever make it down into FL? I have a buddy in New Port Richey, just north of Tampa, who has a UHZ65. Might be able to set up a demo if you need to.


But I'll tell you this, if you're susceptible to RBE, you will see it. I am and I can't ignore how bad it is on this model. But, my buddy is as well, and he says he gets used to it and doesn't see it much anymore. So it's user-dependent on how it'll affect you.
When I first purchased the UHZ65 I noticed a bunch of RBE. Now I need concentrate on it and look for it to see anything. I would say it became a non-issue.
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Do you ever make it down into FL? I have a buddy in New Port Richey, just north of Tampa, who has a UHZ65. Might be able to set up a demo if you need to.


But I'll tell you this, if you're susceptible to RBE, you will see it. I am and I can't ignore how bad it is on this model. But, my buddy is as well, and he says he gets used to it and doesn't see it much anymore. So it's user-dependent on how it'll affect you.
That's a pretty long trip. Tho I may be headed down that way in a week or so. If it works out, I'll PM you.

Thanks for the followup!

We have a Sony PJ, now. So I'm not sure if any of us will RBE or not. We've never had a DLP TV or PJ, so it's an unknown for us.

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Did anyone do the clipping tests? I would like to know if I am the only one having issues or it is a common thing
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Hi folks,

I am thinking about getting the UHZ65 for my hometheater mainly for 75% movies and 25% gaming. Can any fellow gamer update their experience of gaming on this projector? I do play some FPS games and was concerned about the 80ms lag. Thanks so much!
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I'm a little bummed. I demoed the UHZ65, and both my wife and I see RBE. I'm not sure if it's going to bother me, and I'm still trying to decide if the extra brightness is worth the RBE or not.

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Another random question. Once opened, should the door on the top of the projector stay open when the PJ sitting on a table?

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I am thinking about getting the UHZ65 for my hometheater mainly for 75% movies and 25% gaming. Can any fellow gamer update their experience of gaming on this projector? I do play some FPS games and was concerned about the 80ms lag. Thanks so much!
It's been a few years since I played much FPS, but my son says it's a little noticeable, but not too bad. We have UHD65 rather than a UHZ65, but other than the illumination, I expect everything else is pretty similar.

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Another random question. Once opened, should the door on the top of the projector stay open when the PJ sitting on a table?
I do not believe it should stay open. It clicks in place. I have mine on the ceiling and it holds in position.

I know you saw the RBE, as I did too initially, but after a while unless I look for it or read about it like today, I rarely if ever see it. But that is a personal item, some people are super susceptible to seeing it while others never notice it. It is a lot of money to spend (to me anyway) and then possibly not like it.
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It's been a few years since I played much FPS, but my son says it's a little noticeable, but not too bad. We have UHD65 rather than a UHZ65, but other than the illumination, I expect everything else is pretty similar.

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I am not as much of a gamer now (lack of free time) but do not notice it. With the UHZ65 I am playing on an Xbox One X. I just know the games look beyond amazing. Battlefront II looks like you are in a Star Wars movie. Battlefield 1 another of my go to's looks fantastic as well in 4K. I could be getting so distracted by how good everything looks add in the good surround sound system and not noticing the lag. I also just stink at FPS on console having started out on PC, the transition is ongoing. So I may chalk up my lack of skills and not notice the lag.

I do also play some driving games and lag means the difference between making the turn or passing the car cleanly or not and still get good track times and enjoy playing on the projector with it. I use a racing wheel for this. The wheel is actually a little tougher to get good times with, but makes for better immersion as well. Forza games are also in 4K and the setup really shines there.
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I do not believe it should stay open. It clicks in place. I have mine on the ceiling and it holds in position.
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That door is awkward when on a table. I have to hold it with one hand to adjust the zoom/shift.

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I know you saw the RBE, as I did too initially, but after a while unless I look for it or read about it like today, I rarely if ever see it. But that is a personal item, some people are super susceptible to seeing it while others never notice it. It is a lot of money to spend (to me anyway) and then possibly not like it.
Exactly right. This is a lot of money (for me). Unfortunately, there just isn't a close second in this price range. At least, there isn't a close second with the sort of light output and overall performance that the UHZ65 has. So it's either go with the UHZ, or keep on going with my old PJ.

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If you want to hold out for potential high lumens LED models that are supposedly coming, that is an option. LED is supposed to be free of any RGE. Poke around on the main forum, there may be some info out there. I have kept out of it since I won't be in the market for a while. With a 20,000 expected half life on the laser, I should be fine for a while. I also don't want to see something that would make me second guess my purchase, but that has not happened. I have been very happy with my projector.
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I am having an issue with mine that led me to use the RGB output from the Oppo rather than going yuv. The projector was perfectly calibrated in yuv and still is. When watching in RGB, for which it was not calibrated, I get to see a lot of rbe while in calibrated yuv mode there is none. As per other dlp projectors I owned, calibration is a must if you want to avoid rbe artifacts.
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I've had an Optoma UHZ65 for about 6 months and it's a quantum leap past my old Epsom Projector! I've been quite ecstatic with the picture quality and brightness of the image however I'm using a HTPC running Windows 10 and for whatever reason I've not been able to take advantage of HDR capability of the projector!

In the Advanced display setting for Optoma UHD it shows 3840 x 2160 30Hz 8-bit RGB Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) and I'm not able to increase the refresh rate beyond 30hz and the box to show additional refresh rates is grayed out. Under monitor type it shows Generic PnP Monitor! All of my PC components are also about 6 months old including my GTX 1070 graphics card, motherboard, i5 CPU are all up to spec for displaying HDR content and I'm using PowerDVD 18 to play MKV HDR 4K videos.

I've seen other people being able to play HDR videos using Windows 10 on an Optoma UHD65 so I'm not sure why I'm having problems and I haven't been able to find much information on this subject. I don't believe there are any Windows 10 drivers for the Optoma UHZ65 (something like that might help)!

If anyone can help me with this or even explain to me why Windows 10 doesn't want to recognize the Optoma UHZ65 as being HDR capable on let me increase the refresh rate to higher than 30Hz that would be fantastic!

I'm also still trying to work out how to bit stream the audio to my Yamaha RX-A3070?

Both of these issue are annoying but I'm still happy because both the video and audio are a quantum leap beyond my original setup but I still hope I can eventually sort both problems out!
In answer to my own question the reason why I can't get HDR is because I'm using GTX1070 Graphics Card. I found out I need to use the onboard Intel graphics or wait until next year for Intel to release a Graphics Card! It still works using HDR sim on the projector so I will stick with that and pickup a Intel Graphics Card next year! The CPU and onboard graphics not really up to the challenge of playing 4K HDR video from an SSD as smoothly as I would like. I'm going to take all the components out of my HTPC and turn that into a desktop and then put together a top of the range HTPC next year with an Intel Graphics Card!
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Dynamic Black
Are you guys using dynamic black on your UHZ65?

I have always used DB2 as this provide (in my view) a very good black level. Yesterday I tried turning it off, and as expected the black level was a lot worse. BUT to my surprise it was not all bad. Dark scenes have a lot more details and "punch" compared to using DB. I need to watch a couple of movies to see if I'm getting more annoyed with the black level, but my short test yesterday actually had me prefer the image without DB.

What are your experiences?

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