Originally Posted by Neo-XP
Yes, I guess if you use more strength for highlight recovery, you can have both with Hill/Log:
You don't have to go that high with highlight recovery strength though, "very high" works well too (and looks more natural IMO).
Agreed, this is precisely why I have "very high" for highlights recovery in my recommended settings for L80.
I experimented a bit with "are you nuts?" for a while and then backed down to very high a while ago.
I don't know how many people test curves without testing them with their recommended settings as well. I know you do test curve+recommended settings, but it would be interesting for those who hesitate (or wonder) to try the following procedure:
When you post your settings with a new curve, I try all of them (including peak brightness and DT, so all your settings exactly as posted) and compare with a "test" profile that has my favourite curve using all your settings (including peak brightness and DT). That way I'm sure I'm comparing the curves, and nothing else, and I see your curve at work as close as possible to the way you see it, though on a projector with slighter less brightness than your OLED (110 vs 150nits) and a larger screen (88" vs 55"). The picture is a bit too dark, but not that much and completely watchable, especially with your DT which is usually significantly lower than mine.
Then I do the opposite: I compare your curve with "adapted settings" to match my peak brightness and preferred settings, to my normal settings with my preferred curve of the moment.
This is just to make sure that I don't miss a discovery because my usual settings are wrong for the curve you suggest.
Doing it that way, I frequently changed my "current favourite" to your new one, because I could see the improvements. Then I would fine-tune my settings to make the most of it here.
Of course, you need to use profiles to do this, and be able to change instantly from one set of settings to the other, with a moving or still picture.
Otherwise, given the relatively small differences between L-80 and hill on most content, it's difficult most of the time to spot differences (even when present), unless you test specific frames / shots and know what to look for.