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Is it a safe assumption that all the old codes are unchanged (discrete IR codes like power, CMD off/low/high) and that the main changes are the addition of new codes such as the 10 installation memories?
Mike already mentioned that they are the same:
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The same 10 discrete codes for the previous lens memory system are also used to control the 10 installation modes.
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To past and current JVC owners,

I would appreciate a screen recommendation for the NX7.

I've been using an older Epson 1080UB (ANSI 1600; 50,000:1) with a first-generation Stewart GrayHawk (100" diagonal and 16:9).

My first consideration was a StudioTek 100. The only two recommendations have been the StudioTek 130 and an ALR. I plan to go 120" diagonal / 16:9.

This will not be in a dedicated room but I only watch at night.

I'd appreciate any input!

Thanks in advance,

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I got some info through today that we be seeing the new series here in Aus till closer or even into December as opposed to November as has been stated for elsewhere. Don't know if this affects anywhere else apart from us but we historically get new models on time if even a tiny bit early.
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Are you the guy with the Carada Cinema White screen? If so, that screen retains a moderate amount of polarization. So you need to buy the 3D glasses made for the JVC. Does not have to be JVC brand, but does need to match the JVC.
I have a cheap Carada screen. I don't know how it fares with polarization.
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This will not be in a dedicated room but I only watch at night.
Even if you only watch at night, the colours of the wall, ceiling and floor are still going to affect your choice of screen.
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Question....


Will this mount support the JVC RS2000?

https://www.projectorpeople.com/Chie...ccessory/19908


Since we have now determined that the older JVC glasses and emitter work with this new model, would you recommend this older package

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TJ9G8AO...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Or since I bought the xPand emitter, should I just buy these glasses

https://www.hi-shock.de/en/detail/in...number/SW10052


It seems like the first link, on Amazon, are for glasses that compensate for brightness issues. Perhaps the second linked set of glasses do as well.

Would appreciate help on both questions.
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Even if you only watch at night, the colours of the wall, ceiling and floor are still going to affect your choice of screen.
I'm aware of that. However, I haven't noticed any color corruption or it's too infinitesimal for my eyes. I do plan to go with a neutral color paint in the room.

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I'm aware of that. However, I haven't noticed any color corruption or it's too infinitesimal for my eyes. I do plan to go with a neutral color paint in the room.

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I wasn’t thinking of colour corruption, but the degradation of the contrast due the the black being washed out by the reflection.
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There is a preview from Germany that links were posted here about a week or so ago. The author has looked at the N5 and NX9 and had great things to say about the N5 lens, and said the lens in the NX9 is even better (as expected).



That's a great sign that we are moving closer to manufacturing/production. Is it a safe assumption that all the old codes are unchanged (discrete IR codes like power, CMD off/low/high) and that the main changes are the addition of new codes such as the 10 installation memories?
The installation codes stayed the same also.
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I have a cheap Carada screen. I don't know how it fares with polarization.
Carada had three screens. A gray screen, Cinema White and Brilliant White. Cinema White has moderate polarization and would need to use the correct glasses. Brilliant White has a little polization, so probably does not matter and I do not know if the gray screen retained any polarization.
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Question....


Will this mount support the JVC RS2000?

https://www.projectorpeople.com/Chie...ccessory/19908


Since we have now determined that the older JVC glasses and emitter work with this new model, would you recommend this older package

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TJ9G8AO...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Or since I bought the xPand emitter, should I just buy these glasses

https://www.hi-shock.de/en/detail/in...number/SW10052


It seems like the first link, on Amazon, are for glasses that compensate for brightness issues. Perhaps the second linked set of glasses do as well.

Would appreciate help on both questions.
Wrong mount. The universal does not fit. You need the custom plate for the JVC.
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Wrong mount. The universal does not fit. You need the custom plate for the JVC.
Mike or anyone,

Can you recommend a plate and mount please?

This will be a drop ceiling mount so I will need the pole extension and anything else for drop ceiling installation.

Appreciate the help.
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To past and current JVC owners,

I would appreciate a screen recommendation for the NX7.

I've been using an older Epson 1080UB (ANSI 1600; 50,000:1) with a first-generation Stewart GrayHawk (100" diagonal and 16:9).

My first consideration was a StudioTek 100. The only two recommendations have been the StudioTek 130 and an ALR. I plan to go 120" diagonal / 16:9.

This will not be in a dedicated room but I only watch at night.

I'd appreciate any input!

Thanks in advance,

ck
I would probably only go with the ST100 in a true black room (black carpet, black walls, black ceilings, etc.).
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Mike or anyone,

Can you recommend a plate and mount please?

This will be a drop ceiling mount so I will need the pole extension and anything else for drop ceiling installation.

Appreciate the help.

Per Post #6431

Do I need just a new mounting plate or a new drop ceiling assembly?

I already have the Universal mount linked in the indicated post.

Is it just the plate I need to attach to the mount? And if so, what specific plate so I can order it?

Thanks all
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Per Post #6431

Do I need just a new mounting plate or a new drop ceiling assembly?

I already have the Universal mount linked in the indicated post.

Is it just the plate I need to attach to the mount? And if so, what specific plate so I can order it?

Thanks all
If its a universal mount then you just need the JVC plate. For example I currently have a Sony projector but have the RS 2000 on order. I have a slightly different chief universal mount but maybe they use the same plate. I need the Chief Smaller Projector Models Hardware Mount Black (SLB281).


For example you can get what I need off Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004SU2LH8...v_ov_lig_dp_it
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If its a universal mount then you just need the JVC plate. For example I currently have a Sony projector but have the RS 2000 on order. I have a slightly different chief universal mount but maybe they use the same plate. I need the Chief Smaller Projector Models Hardware Mount Black (SLB281).


For example you can get what I need off Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004SU2LH8...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Appreciate the help but your Amazon link goes nowhere, unfortunately.

Just for clarification from anyone that wants to answer...

I own this mounting kit for my current Sony projector:

https://www.projectorpeople.com/Chie...ccessory/19908

It includes a drop ceiling install and extension pole.

Are you or anyone else saying that all I need to add to this existing mount is the JVC plate?

Which specific plate should I order? I'd rather go larger plate if I need to since this thing seems to be a monstrosity.

Thank You
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It's not the wrong thread, but you'll get a very partial response out of this crew. I'm still leaning Sony 295 myself, but Markmon does present compelling testimony. There are plenty other people happy with Sony projectors however, including yourself. I saw the N5/N9/295/995 at CEDIA and came away wanting the Sony. I'm no expert and have no experience with either Sony or JVC projectors. Without viewing each side by side, I doubt most people without laser vision could tell much difference. I'm amazed that people on these forums have so much passion for JVC, although there are some haters as well, but the sheer number of posts in this thread versus the Sony certainly says something. That said, the purchase needle for me is still pointing Sony but I'd like to see some real-world reviews of production units. I wouldn't get the 385 because of the chipset limitation among other things. The 695 is overpriced compared to the JVC's. The N5/N7 are first gen which scares me. I really like the changes Sony made to the 295 and how quickly they responded to the outcry over their issues with the 285/385. The 3d emitter is built-in if I'm not mistaken on the 295. I don't really think you can go wrong with any of these, it's just a matter of how much you want to squander.
The JVC is not first generation. It's actually JVC's 3rd generation 4K panel and JVC has been making projectors since early 2000's maybe before that. Their firmware is mature, they are using the same lamps as before. This is very familiar ground.

But yea I've already stated all my opinions. I just can't see anyone that would prefer anything Sony has over the lowest JVC N5. Tell me why you'd consider a 295ES? I think a very strong case can be made that the $6000 N5 is *far better* than the $10000 695ES. Sony is just way far outclassed this round.
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Honestly guys buy with what you feel comfortable with. At the end of the day its in your home whatever you choose and your the one that is going to be enjoying it. I know a number of people that are going with Sony and with JVC. You decide what suits you best. Go and view one before you buy and if your happy go for it. Ive had a Jvc X5900 and have seen a sony vpl 385es in one retailer is was demonstrated horribly but then I saw another in another retailer it blew me away, PQ looked awesome. Regarding these new JVC I bet there going to awesome as well.
I actually think anyone that ends up with say a 295ES or 695ES this round has done so based on mis-information rather than educated selection.

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Appreciate the help but your Amazon link goes nowhere, unfortunately.

Just for clarification from anyone that wants to answer...

I own this mounting kit for my current Sony projector:

https://www.projectorpeople.com/Chie...ccessory/19908

It includes a drop ceiling install and extension pole.

Are you or anyone else saying that all I need to add to this existing mount is the JVC plate?

Which specific plate should I order? I'd rather go larger plate if I need to since this thing seems to be a monstrosity.

Thank You

Just did a little more research...

Is this the plate I need?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tor_Mount.html

If so, will it mount to the Chief ceiling mount I have referenced in the quote or do I need to buy a whole new kit?

If not, what plate will I need?

Again, thanks for the help
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Honestly guys buy with what you feel comfortable with. At the end of the day its in your home whatever you choose and your the one that is going to be enjoying it. I know a number of people that are going with Sony and with JVC. You decide what suits you best. Go and view one before you buy and if your happy go for it. Ive had a Jvc X5900 and have seen a sony vpl 385es in one retailer is was demonstrated horribly but then I saw another in another retailer it blew me away, PQ looked awesome. Regarding these new JVC I bet there going to awesome as well.
I actually think anyone that ends up with say a 295ES or 695ES this round has done so based on mis-information rather than educated selection.
My point was get whatever makes you happy who cares whatever you me or anybody thinks.
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Just did a little more research...

Is this the plate I need?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tor_Mount.html

If so, will it mount to the Chief ceiling mount I have referenced in the quote or do I need to buy a whole new kit?

If not, what plate will I need?

Again, thanks for the help
This is one of them: https://www.legrandav.com/Products/C...ing/RPA/RPA281
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This is all I need, huh?

Does it attach to the existing mount I have in place?
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There is nothing wrong with holding onto the 640 for awhile. I agree, why upgrade until we see a replacement which exceeds the 640/990 in all areas?

Once you see the nx9, you may change your mind, so i look forward to your report.
Yes, lets hope so. I keep saying if the black levels dont basically match the RS640 that the RS3000 is gone. I suppose it could come in here and be so remarkable that I just don't care. If so, that'll say quite a bit.
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Just did a little more research...

Is this the plate I need?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tor_Mount.html

If so, will it mount to the Chief ceiling mount I have referenced in the quote or do I need to buy a whole new kit?

If not, what plate will I need?

Again, thanks for the help
This is the other (the one I have been using for almost 15-years)... https://www.legrandav.com/Products/C...ets/SLB/SLB281
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This is all I need, huh?

Does it attach to the existing mount I have in place?

Found it here:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tor_Mount.html

Just need to know if compatible with this or I need a whole new drop ceiling mount
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This is all I need, huh?

Does it attach to the existing mount I have in place?
From the looks of it, you loosen those 6 screws, remove that universal bottom, attach the plate and you're golden.
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I am trying to understand the advantage of the Sony vs the JVC (MSRP maybe?).. JVC will be better contrast, lens memory, more brightness. We won't know which projector will have better tone mapping but contrast and lumens and lens shift/memory alone are pretty big advantages for JVC.

EDIT unless maybe I am not sure which models you are comparing.
The sony's have no tone mapping. They have an HDR curve. So we do know which has the better tone mapping. The only one with tone mapping is the JVC.
The comments above about wanting the 295ES seems to be all about price. He even mentions wanting an Epson 4k. No one in here would want that unless they think that they want to pay even less. Epson is not synonymous with high quality. And as mutiger said, he doesn't care about jet black vs grey black. I doubt anyone else in this thread feels that way.

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Found it here:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tor_Mount.html

Just need to know if compatible with this or I need a whole new drop ceiling mount
If you look at the one you posted earlier (the one you said you already had): https://www.projectorpeople.com/Chie...ccessory/19908

The actual mount to the pipe is the same....just replace the bottom portion with that plate.
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From the looks of it, you loosen those 6 screws, remove that universal bottom, attach the plate and you're golden.
BEAUTIFUL!

I will order this plate:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tor_Mount.html

Feel free to check that link for the accuracy of what I am ordering.

THANK YOU for all your help
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BEAUTIFUL!

I will order this plate:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tor_Mount.html

Feel free to check that link for the accuracy of what I am ordering.

THANK YOU for all your help
That's the mount...not the plate....this is the plate.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...Interface.html
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