Originally Posted by spinn74
What is your opinion on the NX7 vs the X990r?
Originally Posted by Bytehoven
On paper I'd say the 640/990/9900 would walk away from the n5, will be better than the n7 and maybe better than the nx9 on contrast performance. But i agree seeing the new units is required to confirm.
Regarding color performance, it's not clear if the expanded gamut is something that will really jump out at you on the new units, but it will be a nice upgrade .
Regarding resolution, the nx9 is assuredly going to be the champion. The n5/n7 will have to prove the updated lens fares better than the last generation. I'm not clear if the updated lens is actually better than a good sample on the last generation projectors, or if the updated less will benefit from better QC, with good lenses ending up in all n5/n7 projectors. I'd love to know where those new lenses that fail the QC test end up.
At the end of the day, for me, enhanced resolution and modest gamut expansion is not enough for me to abandon my excellent 990. I also want superior contrast performance, so I'm willing to wait for the total package.
Will I be suffering from this choice? It sure doesn't feel like suffering, but if it is, I'd wish all poor choices resulted in such consequences. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
I share Bytehoven's opinion but ordered an RS3000 to replace my RS640 anyway. My hope is that the black level won't be noticeably less as rumor is you need to be around double contrast to notice a difference and 100,000 is not half of 160,000. But who knows. I play a lot of games where 4K resolution is very noticeable. I use to have 2 projectors set up, an RS640 for tv/movies and a sony 675ES native 4K for games. I sold the 675Es to help fund the RS3000. If the RS3000 isn't better than the RS640 in tv/movies due to lack of contrast, I'll be selling it and keeping the RS640 and getting a cheap entry 4K projector for gaming in the meantime.
My thoughts in your case:
1) What type of content do you use on your projector.
- Games? Native 4K huge boost
- Movies/TV - not much benefit over eshift of x790/rs540
2) How far back do you sit?
- If you are more than 1 screen width from your screen don't bother with 4K you wont see the difference over eshifted pixels.
- Ideally you should be like .75 x screen width. I'm 8.5 feet from 135" screen. Even on that, eshift vs native 4k on movies is super hard to notice.
3) If you watch HDR content, from where?
- Streaming - the new projector tone mapping will be huge benefit.
- Bluray player panasonic 820 - the tone mapping can be done in player, not a benefit. If you dont have this player you can buy it.
- PC or "files on disk" - you can and should use something supporting MadVR so no benefit for tone mapping.
4) How light controlled is your room?
- Living room or "media room" - You wont benefit from the deep blacks of JVC any way so you probably cant tell difference in contrast.
- Complete light controlled room - you will benefit from the deep blacks of the best JVC models.
5) The RS3000 lens should be sharper in all content even at a little further seating distances.
- The improved lens has a way of just being sharper, its odd how it benefits all resolutions. People with an RS4500 can attest to this.
- The RS2000/RS1000 is basically sale lens as on RS540 but with better Q/C supposedly. Probably not massive difference.
Hope that all helps.
Personally, coming from an RS640, I would not consider an N5/RS1000 at 40,000:1. I would *maybe* consider an N7/RS2000, but I would not preorder it. I'd have to see it myself first. The NX9/RS3000 was the only one I consider could be a good all around upgrade without much/any sacrifice. Again on paper (but JVC isn't known for lying).
Remember, we don't know how these new models perform in the real world. But I suspect the black performance will be good. I had an x500r entry level projector and the black performance on that was quite good. I'm quite spoiled by my RS640 right now, the blacks are so awesome I enjoy watching end credits. RS3000 is going to have to be very close to not be sold off.
As a side note, the preorder discount is quite good. While site rules prevent stating it, I don't think I'll have a problem selling an RS3000 with 50 hours on bulb used and get my $$ back out should the new unit be disappointing. I think there's maybe 1 day left to grab the preorder discount on new models.