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Me too...

Question... I am in a rented townhouse and will move in the next 1-2 years. How does one move a fixed frame screen? Take it apart and put it back again?
I would imagine it depends on the screen. With the Seymour Precision frame I've got, it would take maybe 10 minutes to knock it down, and another 10 to put it back together, so yeah, I would do exactly that.
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To all those who placed a pre-order on the RS2000 (I’m one of them): Why did you decide to pop for the RS2000 over the much less expensive RS540/X790?

For me, it was the native 4K (I’ll be sitting 8’ away from the screen) and auto tone mapping.

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Does my Stewart ST100 retains any polarization?
I've had no issues with my Neve which is rated at 1.1 gain.

So, what's the consensus...do you guys think we'll hear any news on delivery times for the NX9 and the other new models this Monday/Tuesday....this month at least?
Who knows. For some reason JVC is being very cagey with what they are letting out. They were supposed to tell a dealer on here what was going on Wednesday then Friday and they didn’t do so. All they told him were that the reports out of Europe were a rumor. The fact of the matter is that if these projectors aren’t on a ship by now there will be another delay. It seems likely that this is the case; because if the projectors were already on a ship, this is something they would tell their dealers, rather than giving these somewhat cryptic updates.
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So I was forced to watch my Buckeyes beat Michigan on the temporary BenQ cheapy projector I bought to tide me over. I bet it would have looked even more glorious on a new JVC N7
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Who knows. For some reason JVC is being very cagey with what they are letting out. They were supposed to tell a dealer on here what was going on Wednesday then Friday and they didn’t do so. All they told him were that the reports out of Europe were a rumor. The fact of the matter is that if these projectors aren’t on a ship by now there will be another delay. It seems likely that this is the case; because if the projectors were already on a ship, this is something they would tell their dealers, rather than giving these somewhat cryptic updates.
Wed. JVC said they would have an update " after Thanksgiving ", and most likely not Friday. So I'm hoping early next week. Or, maybe by the time the update comes the projectors arrive. Kind of like when you get tracking on something the same day it shows up on your door step !
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I've had no issues with my Neve which is rated at 1.1 gain.

So, what's the consensus...do you guys think we'll hear any news on delivery times for the NX9 and the other new models this Monday/Tuesday....this month at least?
I expect an update sometime this week.
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I expect an update sometime this week.
There suppose to arrive this week (aka "late November") so yeah, an update from JVC would be nice
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There suppose to arrive this week (aka "late November") so yeah, an update from JVC would be nice
They were supposed to be available for sale in late October originally though. Then that changed to landing, as you say, in late November. My excitement that began back in September is now waning.
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I am considering using a Stewart StudioTek 130 G3 screen with the upcoming N7. My screen right now (Jamestown) is mounted on the wall with center channel below, but I've had thoughts of building a baffle wall and moving the speakers behind the screen at some point in the future.

I have a question for those familiar with that screen material. How noticable is the AT microperf option? If I never end up actually using it, it would be a shame to compromise on image quality. Would I be better off just getting the 130 without microperf? Is there a better performing AT screen material option to consider?

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The fact of the matter is that if these projectors aren’t on a ship by now there will be another delay. It seems likely that this is the case; because if the projectors were already on a ship, this is something they would tell their dealers, rather than giving these somewhat cryptic updates.
I'm just going to wait to see what happens this coming week.
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I am considering using a Stewart StudioTek 130 G3 screen with the upcoming N7. My screen right now (Jamestown) is mounted on the wall with center channel below, but I've had thoughts of building a baffle wall and moving the speakers behind the screen at some point in the future.

I have a question for those familiar with that screen material. How noticable is the AT microperf option? If I never end up actually using it, it would be a shame to compromise on image quality. Would I be better off just getting the 130 without microperf? Is there a better performing AT screen material option to consider?

Thanks! Beyond excited for the N7, I have upgraded almost everything else in the theater in anticipation [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif[/IMG]
Note that with microperf, you need a lot more space between your speakers and your screen (6+ inches) than with a woven screen.

Do you need the high gain? If yes, no other AT option can compare to the 130 microperf if you have the space for it.

But if you don't need the high gain, the Dreamscreen v6 sold by AVS is the best AT screen. You can't tell the difference between it and a non-AT material from any distance greater than about 18 inches, and because it is woven, the speakers can be placed within an inch or so of the material. Plus, the v6 is going to be way, way, way cheaper than the 130.
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I ordered them on Oct 10th just got them today wasn't really impressed with reply I got when I emailed them to ask were they were did u have to sign to get yours

Hi, but they have 2 models who works and one is bether than other so i dont know if you have thats right version...


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Great. How is the acoustic attenuation and how was mounting it? It seems like the groove-based installation could be tricky and result in uneven tension.
The material has very little stretch, so just a little tension with one hand pulling it to the outer edge of the frame and then using my other hand with the Betty Crocker pizza cutter to insert into the groove was not too hard. That cutter has a very bendy wheel though, and so I needed to straighten it a couple of times but it worked. The wheel needs to be thin, but if I ever need to take it down and remount, the wheel that came with my $15 pizza stone from Lowes is as thin but much stiffer. I used that wheel on samples of Fabricmate track without issue.

I took REW measurements for 20-20k sweeps for both screens, but they are very noisy and I need to redo them. Subjectively I'd say there is less attenuation in the treble though. I only use ARC (on my Anthem 1120) to 250Hz, which doesn't affect the drivers behind the screen, so I did not rerun to see how it sees things as having changed. If I find time I will do that too.
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Hi, but they have 2 models who works and one is bether than other so i dont know if you have thats right version...


High Diamond is BEST for JVC (best solution)
Black Diamonds works with JVC,Epson atd etc but its not bright like "High Diamond"
High diamond is What I ordered but if your screen doesn't hold polarity it doesn't matter both will work the same
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Are we still offering speculation on the cause of the delay?

Based on @westmd post about the N5 coming in (to Europe) soon but the NX9 still being an unknown delay, could the lens iris be an issue? In the dual iris system the lens iris is what needs to move fast with content, but on the 4500 the single iris (also in that same lens as the NX9?) was purely the "bulb" iris correct? Maybe in some samples the iris is fine but in others it too slow (as the bulb iris it would only need to move 1-2 steps per second) and could also be why in the preproduction machines it was disabled but JVC thought they had it operating well enough.

Just my thought, pure speculation.

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High diamond is What I ordered but if your screen doesn't hold polarity it doesn't matter both will work the same

Dont hold polarity, what you means?
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Dont hold polarity, what you means?
Jvc put out a different polarity then other projectors but this only matters if the screen holds the polarity what is ur screen material hopefully someone knows if it does or not
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Jvc put out a different polarity then other projectors but this only matters if the screen holds the polarity what is ur screen material hopefully someone knows if it does or not

Ahh... i dint know it...
I and my friends use it on some screen and on all ts works perfect
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I am considering using a Stewart StudioTek 130 G3 screen with the upcoming N7. My screen right now (Jamestown) is mounted on the wall with center channel below, but I've had thoughts of building a baffle wall and moving the speakers behind the screen at some point in the future.

I have a question for those familiar with that screen material. How noticable is the AT microperf option? If I never end up actually using it, it would be a shame to compromise on image quality. Would I be better off just getting the 130 without microperf? Is there a better performing AT screen material option to consider?

Thanks! Beyond excited for the N7, I have upgraded almost everything else in the theater in anticipation
When I bought my V6 about two years ago I researched the topic AT screens a bit. General statements were that for a home theater microperf screens should be avoided because of a) loss in trebble (cinemas use horn speakers with much more power to push high frequencies through the screen) and b) the risk of moiree effects.
Again that was pure research online no testing myself. I can only say that the V6 only marginally alters the high frequencies which can easily be solved with an EQ (I use Dirac Live in my Datasat LS10) and picture quality is outstanding. The lower gain of the V6 I will try to solve with the NX9 (higher light output) and a Paladin DCR lens.
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To all those who placed a pre-order on the RS2000 (I’m one of them): Why did you decide to pop for the RS2000 over the much less expensive RS540/X790?

For me, it was the native 4K (I’ll be sitting 8’ away from the screen) and auto tone mapping.
How big is your screen that you're going to be 8 ft away from?

I went with the NX7 because it's native 4K and there's lots of native 4K content now. Tone mapping is nice, but I could get that with a Sony 695 and a Panasonic UB820 player. The JVC is a huge step up from my old Epson 6030 in terms of resolution and native contrast. My front row is also 8 ft from the screen (115" diagonal 16:9), and from there I can definitely see the screen door effect (SDE) on my Epson, unless I defocus it just slightly. For the JVC with 4K content the individual pixels should be imperceptible at 8 ft.

FWIW I'm building a new hush box -- my old hush box for the Epson is too small -- and will be running the JVC on high-lamp at all times for use on my 1.0 gain screen. Got to do something to occupy my time while I wait for the NX7. I don't really care about reduced lamp life, I'd rather have a brighter more colorful image given the light output reduction of the JVC color filters, along with a unity gain screen.

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How big is your screen that you're going to be 8 ft away from?

I went with the NX7 because it's native 4K and there's lots of native 4K content now. Tone mapping is nice, but I could get that with a Sony 695 and a Panasonic UB820 player. The JVC is a huge step up from my old Epson 6030 in terms of resolution and native contrast. My front row is also 8 ft from the screen (115" diagonal 16:9), and from there I can definitely see the screen door effect (SDE) on my Epson, unless I defocus it just slightly. For the JVC with 4K content the individual pixels should be imperceptible at 8 ft.

FWIW I'm building a new hush box -- my old hush box for the Epson is too small -- and will be running the JVC on high-lamp at all times for use on my 1.0 gain screen. Got to do something to occupy my time while I wait for the NX7. I don't really care about reduced lamp life, I'd rather have a brighter more colorful image given the light output reduction of the JVC color filters, along with a unity gain screen.
A JVC on low lamp on a 115" screen should be way bright enough. JVC's low lamp is only 75% of the high not 55% like many other brands My RS640 runs low lamp on a 1.0 gain 135" screen and it's very bright. A Sony 695ES + UB820 is close to preorder price for NX9 lols.

Kudos for sitting close though. That's exactly where you need to be to really benefit from the 4K.
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A JVC on low lamp on a 115" screen should be way bright enough. JVC's low lamp is only 75% of the high not 55% like many other brands
Thanks for the info. I thought I had read somewhere (?) that JVC's color filter for DCI-P3 really cut down the lumens on the new 4K units, especially post-calibration. I'm switching to JVC from Epson, so this is unfamiliar territory for me, and hopefully it won't be an issue and there's nothing to worry about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh, I forgot to mention the JVC will be 12.5 ft from the screen, so pretty close.

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Thanks for the info. I thought I had read somewhere (?) that JVC's color filter for DCI-P3 really cut down the lumens on the new 4K units, especially post-calibration. I'm switching to JVC from Epson, so this is unfamiliar territory for me, and hopefully it won't be an issue and there's nothing to worry about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh, I forgot to mention the JVC will be 12.5 ft from the screen, so pretty close.
The color filter is optional. Most of us probably don't use it unless we have just far too many lumens. You get pretty good coverage without the filter in place. I'd rather run low lamp without the filter than high lamp with the filter.
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The color filter is optional. Most of us probably don't use it unless we have just far too many lumens. You get pretty good coverage without the filter in place. I'd rather run low lamp without the filter than high lamp with the filter.
Am I correct that the DCI-P3 filter was not optional in the RS500?
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Am I correct that the DCI-P3 filter was not optional in the RS500?
No, that is not correct. The 500 has the filter.
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How big is your screen that you're going to be 8 ft away from?



I went with the NX7 because it's native 4K and there's lots of native 4K content now. Tone mapping is nice, but I could get that with a Sony 695 and a Panasonic UB820 player. The JVC is a huge step up from my old Epson 6030 in terms of resolution and native contrast. My front row is also 8 ft from the screen (115" diagonal 16:9), and from there I can definitely see the screen door effect (SDE) on my Epson, unless I defocus it just slightly. For the JVC with 4K content the individual pixels should be imperceptible at 8 ft.



FWIW I'm building a new hush box -- my old hush box for the Epson is too small -- and will be running the JVC on high-lamp at all times for use on my 1.0 gain screen. Got to do something to occupy my time while I wait for the NX7. I don't really care about reduced lamp life, I'd rather have a brighter more colorful image given the light output reduction of the JVC color filters, along with a unity gain screen.


The plan right now is 98” diagonal from 8’. My JVC will be 10.5’ from the screen so I should have plenty of lumens even on low lamp mode.

Your 115” from 8’ sounds HUGE! What’s your field of view?
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No, that is not correct. The 500 has the filter.
How is it optional? By selecting any gamma other than D? I'm unaware of any option within the menus that de-selects any filter.
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How is it optional? By selecting any gamma other than D? I'm unaware of any option within the menus that de-selects any filter.
You cannot directly de-select the filter. Any time you select a colour profile that does not require the filter (such as Manni’s Rec709NF or BT2020NF) th projector automatically de-selects the filter. Same with selecting it.
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The color filter is optional. Most of us probably don't use it unless we have just far too many lumens. You get pretty good coverage without the filter in place. I'd rather run low lamp without the filter than high lamp with the filter.
I'm not aware of any that bypass the filter. Especially on the forum that try to get as much performance out as possible. I have heard that without the filter, the JVC can get up to 93% of the WCG compared to 99% with the filter.
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I am considering using a Stewart StudioTek 130 G3 screen with the upcoming N7. My screen right now (Jamestown) is mounted on the wall with center channel below, but I've had thoughts of building a baffle wall and moving the speakers behind the screen at some point in the future.

I have a question for those familiar with that screen material. How noticable is the AT microperf option? If I never end up actually using it, it would be a shame to compromise on image quality. Would I be better off just getting the 130 without microperf? Is there a better performing AT screen material option to consider?


Thanks! Beyond excited for the N7, I have upgraded almost everything else in the theater in anticipation
I absolutely love my ( not perf'd ) StudioTek 130 screen. It provides a razor sharp image with just the right amount of gain. That's probably why they are used for projector demos at Cedia so often. I've seen the micro perf version in home theaters and they look very good. Get a sample.

The first thing to do is decide whether you are going with an AT screen or not - sounds like you aren't sure.

Also, send Tom Bley a PM and ask him about his Stewart Perf O Rado screen ( it's a perf'd Cima Neve ). Or maybe Tom will chime in here about the screen while we await news on the JVC's.
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