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One of my dad's life rules of thumb: "NEVER buy the first model year of a new car or the first year of a major redesign."

I usually listen, but the one time I didn't and it came back to bite us in the butt big time. Case in point: We bought a SONY VPL-VW50, the SONY "Pearl". It was SONY''s first 1080p redesigned projector. It got rave reviews, looked nice and had great specs for the time so I broke the cardinalienable rule and bought one... BIG MISTAKE.

Within the first three months it died, had to send it back to SONY for repair. Got it back, after a short period it died again. Wash, rinse and repeat. To make a long story very short, I had to send it back SIX TIMES for repair of various issues. Over a period of 2 1/2 years SONY Repair Center had posession of our pj for a total of EIGHTEEN MONTHS! And they never could "fix it".

SONY CORP gave us the run around. We had to contact and file a complaint with our state's office of consumer affairs and finally had to get our personal attorney involved.

Only after receiving an official threat of legal action from our lawyer did SONY Corp FINALLY offer to replace the defective VPL-VW50 with a brand new, SECOND MODEL YEAR SONY VPL-VW60 for a "small fee". We accepted the offer and by this time: the SECOND MODEL YEAR OF PRODUCTION, SONY had fixed/corrected the plethora of bugs and issues that had been widely reported by "early adopters" like myself who had bought the FIRST MODEL YEAR VPL-VW50.

We have logged over nearly 16,000 hours on our meticulously maintained SONY VPL-VW60 and it has worked FLAWLESSLY. It is used nearly every day and is just now starting to show slight signs of the dreaded "SONY panel degradation" issue. I think daily use and a very carefully controlled "low humidity" environment, coupled with installing the lens cap whenever the pj is not in use, and frequently cleaning the air filter has greatly contributed to the projector's longevity.

That said, although our SONY VPL-VW60 is very "long in the tooth", we are in the market for a new 4K pj and would seriously be interested in the new JVC RS3000/NX7, I think we will sit this first year of production and wait until JVC works out all of the kinks and "bugs". Early adopting on the first year run of JVC''s 4K pj is for us a bit too risky, we don't want to get burned again.
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I have to agree with Mark. I got about 12 screen samples from various sources and while I saw a difference between them, the whites seemed pretty similar. I actually found a DEAL on a Stewart Cima Neve through a liquidator for $1900 incl shipping my choice of 123" or 135" and got the 123" but lacking that I always go for better electronics over the passives.

I looked in the local Craigslist and saw 2 used Stewart screens under $1k so that is another way to go. My former 92" Dalite screen worked for my Barco 1209 CRT PJ for almost 10 years but was too small for the new JVC 640 or I would have used it. So, for me, I break with most of the group here on screen vs. gear.

One thing to keep in mind is that there are some grain issues if you go 4K on many screens. That was another reason to go with the Stewart Cima Neve.
I have Dalite screens in both of my rooms with excellent results. My Dalite 106" 16:9 screen in my sports room with my Mitsubishi HC5000 and my 148" Dalite cinemascope screen with my JVC RS4810 looks amazing. When I get my new RS2000 and rotate my Rs4810 to my sports room I'll bet both rooms will look even better!

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You can calibrate it out, if the screen is uniform. Most of the time, cheaper screens are not uniform across the screen. Carrada was pretty bad with uniformity. Much loved screen, but did have uniformity problem.
The elite screens I've seen ($500 or so on amazon), the 1.1 gain versions, are pretty consistent at least. Is it mainly the ones that are positive gain that have issues right?

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woofer please come back and talk abot the NX9 for us, we are missing you!
Tell us about the sync times please
Aww shucks ...

Sync times are definitely faster.... id say half the duration of my Z1 sync times..

Was testing the DI on the opening scenes of "Star Wars Force Awakens" ......does an excellent job on Auto 1 mode. NO pumping or anomalies ...

Have the NX9 currently set up with the X9900.....

Interesting.....i have read they use they use the same bulb, but the NX9 it quite a bit brighter than the X9900!
Did some quick readings last evening...100% IRE . Both set for HDR Iris fully open . NX9 260 lux X9900 205 lux 20Ft throw to 143" Scope.... ( so 150" ish 16:9)
NX9 has 42hrs now and X9900 has 105hrs.

Speaking of the X9900 ...GREAT projector as it is!..... BUT i am afraid when compared directly to the NX9 it is really outclassed!

If you view them together and you dont notice the substantial advantage the NX9 has with "Sharpness" and "Detail" ...then i am afraid you may require some form of "Eye Glasses" being mentioned in previous posts here ....

Contrast.... wont comment to much , as its very dependent on screen size and throw.........with my set up there isn't much in it!
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Aww shucks ...

Sync times are definitely faster.... id say half the duration of my Z1 sync times..

Was testing the DI on the opening scenes of "Star Wars Force Awakens" ......does an excellent job on Auto 1 mode. NO pumping or anomalies ...

Have the NX9 currently set up with the X9900.....

Interesting.....i have read they use they use the same bulb, but the NX9 it quite a bit brighter than the X9900!
Did some quick readings last evening...100% IRE . Both set for HDR Iris fully open . NX9 260 lux X9900 205 lux 20Ft throw to 143" Scope.... ( so 150" ish 16:9)
NX9 has 42hrs now and X9900 has 105hrs.

Speaking of the X9900 ...GREAT projector as it is!..... BUT i am afraid when compared directly to the NX9 it is really outclassed!

If you view them together and you dont notice the substantial advantage the NX9 has with "Sharpness" and "Detail" ...then i am afraid you may require some form of "Eye Glasses" being mentioned in previous posts here ....

Contrast.... wont comment to much , as its very dependent on screen size and throw.........with my set up there isn't much in it!
woofer this is sounding very positive indeed!
I too have a screen about your size 145" scope curved Stewart 130 microperf, I use an Isco IIIL lens with it.
Good thing is I also have the X9900 which i think is an amazing projector, but by the sounds of things Im going to like its replacement the NX9.
I use madvr upscaling BDs to 4K, the image is spectacular! Will be interesting when I get a better lens from the NX9 behind my IscoIIIL.

Are you also using madvr?

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I do despise the Soap Opera Effect, but also think this PSA is really odd. What spurred them to do this?
Maybe motion interpolation interferes with subliminal movie frames which feature scientology programming?

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Thanks. Do you think RS640 is worth the premium over RS540?

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If you haave a room with very good ligggt control and black floor, walls and ceiling treatments for the front h alf of the room and darker tones in the rear, that will enable you to exlerience native contrast advantage of the 640 over almost all other projectors.

I briefly owned the 520 and the y40 was an upgrade in contrast performance.

If you have an ht with lighter colored walls abbd ceiling, grab a cheaper deal on the 540, saving the $$$ fiir when your rs2000 ship com es in.

Another reason to get the 640, you might like it better than the rs2000, and same $$$ all around.

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woofer this is sounding very positive indeed!
I too have a screen about your size 145" scope curved Stewart 130 microperf, I use an Isco IIIL lens with it.
Good thing is I also have the X9900 which i think is an amazing projector, but by the sounds of things Im going to like its replacement the NX9.
I use madvr upscaling BDs to 4K, the image is spectacular! Will be interesting when I get a better lens from the NX9 behind my IscoIIIL.

Are you also using madvr?
Yes , i use Mad VR as well..

Honestly , i cant see how you would be disappointed..
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It was photography and astronomy that led me to Ophthalmology. The movie now video hobby goes back to Junior High where I was on the av squad. I’ll turn 70 on my next birthday and have recently retired. Interestingly, while I was -1.25 ou for most of my life, today I’m plano 20/20. I think I preferred the mild myopia, as I now need readers, which bothers me more than the myopia did. I probably had the world’s longest lasting accomodative spasm, though I was still myopic under cycloplegia.

Sounds like we have a lot in common, I’ll check your website.

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I have a similar progression.

I once could focus on my hand an inch or so from my face. Now i need to movie my hand out to about 12".

Longer distance is improving to the degree i can operate without need of glasses.

I still need them for movie watching and driving.

I also have "floaters" in my vitreous humor bringing on a glorious viewing experience. <facepalm>

Kinda why i don't really care about the potential clarity of the nx9/rs3000, as i think i am slowly losing the required visual acuity required to appreciate the perfiirmance. But my contrast and color perfeption are still strong.

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I would be surprised if I didn’t have you beat in the multiple specialized task glasses contest.

Dedicated Reading - regular progressives for driving and going to dinner etc. - Zeiss “in-room” progressives for being in office or home where long distance viewing not required (I wear these the most) - single vision sunglasses - dedicated single vision high power glasses for TV and night driving. Plus I have prism in all glasses to correct for diplopia. Plus I have drug store reading glasses for when I have to remove a splinter or clip my finger nails. I used to be a severe myopic (before cataract surgery) and now can’t see super close any more without extra clip on reading glasses. I have color coded glasses cases. Oh wait, also Cocoon over glasses sunglasses for driving in car on sunny days because transitions don’t go dark in cars.

This has been a life long quest for best possible vision in all situations but especially home theater. Why spend all this money on equipment if you can’t see the screen perfectly? So I have to justify all this expense for glasses by getting an NX-9.
Sounds like your eyeglass budget may be even higher than your projector budget!
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Your comparison is good. Buying a luxury car and feeding it regular gas performs better than buying a crap car and feeding it premium gas. Those screens resolve all the 4k detail just fine. They just don't have quite as bright whites or the perfectly right color. But this can mostly be calibrated out although it may not even feel necessary. For those with limited budgets, an N7 on a $600 screen is way better than an N5 on a $4000 screen. Furthermore, if you can afford an N7 and a $4000 screen you're probably better off trying to buy a preorder NX9 and the cheap screen.

I have a dalite screen. It's mid-range. I've gotten a lot of free sample materials and lined them up on my screen and you can see the benefits of the stewart. I might upgrade to it one day. (Again screens can be upgraded, too it's not a life long decision). But the cost benefit just isn't there compared to upgrading the electronics.
I think your explanation is fine but to others who have never owned a projector I would think u will do ten times better with a blacked out room and a 200 dollar screen than a white room and a 4000 dollar screen..

So N7, black paint and 200 dollar paint will do anyday.

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Aww shucks ...

Sync times are definitely faster.... id say half the duration of my Z1 sync times..

Was testing the DI on the opening scenes of "Star Wars Force Awakens" ......does an excellent job on Auto 1 mode. NO pumping or anomalies ...

Have the NX9 currently set up with the X9900.....

Interesting.....i have read they use they use the same bulb, but the NX9 it quite a bit brighter than the X9900!
Did some quick readings last evening...100% IRE . Both set for HDR Iris fully open . NX9 260 lux X9900 205 lux 20Ft throw to 143" Scope.... ( so 150" ish 16:9)
NX9 has 42hrs now and X9900 has 105hrs.

Speaking of the X9900 ...GREAT projector as it is!..... BUT i am afraid when compared directly to the NX9 it is really outclassed!

If you view them together and you dont notice the substantial advantage the NX9 has with "Sharpness" and "Detail" ...then i am afraid you may require some form of "Eye Glasses" being mentioned in previous posts here ....

Contrast.... wont comment to much , as its very dependent on screen size and throw.........with my set up there isn't much in it!
Hey do you see any pumping on that same scene playing through the x9900? How are black levels on that scene when compared to x9900?

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So @arrow or @Mike A ny updates from JVC or an update on the timing of next update?
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So

I am getting my room ready for the NX7. I am planning to go velvet all the way all the way from the front wall to a little past my seating position. So not a total batcave but aa my room / attic would allow.

I am also getting Screen acoustics V6 screen 127 inches which has a gain of 0.8.

I have a question on the projector placement.

I was playing with the calculator on projector Central to figure out how far away from the screen to ceiling mount my projector and realized that and to get even 27fl I will have to be at Max zoom and 13.1 ft from the screen.

Does that sound right? For HDR do I need my fL to be near 30FL? What is the equivalent required fL for SDR ... And if I mount my projector at the shortest throw possible will I be able to reduce the brightness for SDR using the manual Iris?

Any thoughts would be highly appreciated.


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The JVC has a manual iris, so yes, you can easily lower the brightness for SDR. Yes, you should mount a few inches shy of short throw for max lumens.
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I’m considering the exact same setup but I haven’t started thinking about how many nits/fl I need to hit. How did you decide how many you need?

Per projectorcentral.com’s calculator, an NX7 should hit 183 nits at my throw distance with a V6. That seems decent but I have no idea if it is, especially for HDR.
You are way above 100 nits, so excellent shape for HDR.
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The elite screens I've seen ($500 or so on amazon), the 1.1 gain versions, are pretty consistent at least. Is it mainly the ones that are positive gain that have issues right?
No. Both screens that Carada sold were 1.0 and 1.1 gain and both of them were not very uniform.
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Aww shucks ...

Sync times are definitely faster.... id say half the duration of my Z1 sync times..

Was testing the DI on the opening scenes of "Star Wars Force Awakens" ......does an excellent job on Auto 1 mode. NO pumping or anomalies ...

Have the NX9 currently set up with the X9900.....

Interesting.....i have read they use they use the same bulb, but the NX9 it quite a bit brighter than the X9900!
Did some quick readings last evening...100% IRE . Both set for HDR Iris fully open . NX9 260 lux X9900 205 lux 20Ft throw to 143" Scope.... ( so 150" ish 16:9)
NX9 has 42hrs now and X9900 has 105hrs.

Speaking of the X9900 ...GREAT projector as it is!..... BUT i am afraid when compared directly to the NX9 it is really outclassed!

If you view them together and you dont notice the substantial advantage the NX9 has with "Sharpness" and "Detail" ...then i am afraid you may require some form of "Eye Glasses" being mentioned in previous posts here ....

Contrast.... wont comment to much , as its very dependent on screen size and throw.........with my set up there isn't much in it!
Same lamp, but the larger better lens is why the NX9 has more lumens hitting the screen. Same reason why the VW995 is listed with 200 more lumens than the VW885.
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I’m considering the exact same setup but I haven’t started thinking about how many nits/fl I need to hit. How did you decide how many you need?

Per projectorcentral.com’s calculator, an NX7 should hit 183 nits at my throw distance with a V6. That seems decent but I have no idea if it is, especially for HDR.
Very curious how are you able to hit 183 nits? i can only get to 91 nits using the calculator. Can you please help point me to what I am doing wrong. Thanks!
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The JVC has a manual iris, so yes, you can easily lower the brightness for SDR. Yes, you should mount a few inches shy of short throw for max lumens.
Mike, just so i understand when you say 'few inches shy' you mean a few inches farther away from the screen than what the calculator tells me.

E.g., if the shortest throw for 130inch screen is 14ft, then I should mount the PJ a few inches farther out at say 14.5inches. Also this is the distance from the lens to the screen .. right?

Thank you!
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Mike, just so i understand when you say 'few inches shy' you mean a few inches farther away from the screen than what the calculator tells me.

E.g., if the shortest throw for 130inch screen is 14ft, then I should mount the PJ a few inches farther out at say 14.5inches. Also this is the distance from the lens to the screen .. right?

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Correct, if 14' is minimum throw, use 14'-6". Also correct, horizontal lens to screen measurement is throw distance.
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Same lamp, but the larger better lens is why the NX9 has more lumens hitting the screen. Same reason why the VW995 is listed with 200 more lumens than the VW885.
I noticed the VW995 draws 490w and the VW885 only draws 430w. So it's still possible that at least some of that power difference is because of a more powerful laser in the VW995.

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Correct, if 14' is minimum throw, use 14'-6". Also correct, horizontal lens to screen measurement is throw distance.
Thank you so much ... so this means that my mounting distance should be ~14.5ft from the screen (taking a foot out for the mount --> lens distance and 6 inches of tolerence)


BTW do the nits required for SDR vary? Should I calibrate for lower fL for SDR content? if so what is the standard?
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woofer this is sounding very positive indeed!
I too have a screen about your size 145" scope curved Stewart 130 microperf, I use an Isco IIIL lens with it.
Good thing is I also have the X9900 which i think is an amazing projector, but by the sounds of things Im going to like its replacement the NX9.
I use madvr upscaling BDs to 4K, the image is spectacular! Will be interesting when I get a better lens from the NX9 behind my IscoIIIL.

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Honestly , i cant see how you would be disappointed..
What video card are you running for MadVR? What is the recommended Nvidia card to be using?
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I noticed the VW995 draws 490w and the VW885 only draws 430w. So it's still possible that at least some of that power difference is because of a more powerful laser in the VW995.
Uses the same laser, but it is possible that Sony is putting more voltage to it.
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Kinda why i don't really care about the potential clarity of the nx9/rs3000, as i think i am slowly losing the required visual acuity required to appreciate the performance. But my contrast and color perception are still strong.
That's an interesting point to keep in mind for us folks who have "vision issues." I wear either progressive lenses or multi-focal contacts, and I think for me also the potential improvements in the sharpness of certain projector models will not be worth the cost. But as you say, even us folks who can't see details like we used to can still see, for example, whether black is black.
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What video card are you running for MadVR? What is the recommended Nvidia card to be using?
I would be curious too, but I do remember reading that there is no video card that can handle it at max settings.
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Very curious how are you able to hit 183 nits? i can only get to 91 nits using the calculator. Can you please help point me to what I am doing wrong. Thanks!


Oops it was 172 nits, not 183.

Basically I can get that because my throw distance will be 10’2” and screen size will be 92” diagonal. Your room is probably a lot larger than mine!
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