Originally Posted by Aztar35
I give JVC a lot of credit. Tone mapping was an issue and JVC made efforts here to address that,
Yes, and it seems their engineers were paying attention. Just look at the first post in this thread: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...500-rs600.html
. This is probably the most comprehensive and advanced calibration thread in the history of AVS. That shows that some serious tinkering was required to get the best out of these units. If things are what they seem, it looks like they have have taken a huge step forward in virtually eliminating the need for all which that thread covers. That said, advanced users may still have some benefit from custom curves, but for the vast majority it may be eliminated.
Originally Posted by Tom Bley
Also, USB updates and sync times reduced to half sound good to me. The bigger chassis also has the benefits of hopefully quieter fan noise and better cooling.
USB updates seem nice, although JVC doesn't have much of a history of releasing many updates. Yes hopefully the bigger chassis runs quieter. Unfortunately Ran did not spend time next to the pj to subjectively evaluate its noise level in high lamp.
Originally Posted by Highjinx
I'm thinking, not having an e-shift element in the way may help as well.
Yes and with ANSI CR as well.
Originally Posted by R Harkness
Well this is interesting. Nice to see JVC managed to impress everyone this year.
I still don't see myself giving up my current RS600 as it has higher contrast than the N7, and I am doubtful the benefits of moving to a true 4K panel will amount to much for me, in terms of cost-to-benefit ratio. I'm just dipping my toes into 4K anyway, so I will keep the RS600 for at least another year.
One thing I'm curious about though: I do like the idea of not having to use things like the HDfury components. Will the new JVCs allow the use of the dynamic iris while showing 4K/HDR? Or would we still need an HDfury for that?
I think the JVC was more impressive on paper than it may have been in person. Still several things like banding and the DI to work out before we have a better idea of how it performs. Now in your case there is a wildcard that you may have not seen... The rumor is that the new units (perhaps the top end or supposedly all 3 models) will have about a 50% boost to ANSI CR. If true, it is possible that this ANSI CR increase could produce an improved picture over the RS600 despite having lower on/off CR. We'll need some in-depth testing to get a better idea.
Originally Posted by markmon1
Because 4K *barely* makes a difference at seating distances. 8K is going to be even less of an impact and require you to be sitting about 4-6 feet from a 130" or bigger screen to even see it. No one is going to be ditching the NX9 for NX9v2 for 8k eshift.
NX9, on paper, sounds perfect to me. A replaceable lamp so I dont have to throw the projector away in a few years, contrast of the RS line with native 4K for games. I'll probably have to buy it.,
I sit 12.5 feet from a 140" wide 2.37 AR screen. When I look at a chart like this https://d18oqavmcmo3u.cloudfront.net...tion_chart.png
I am right in the middle of the "UHD 4K benefits noticed" section. That's pretty close and a pretty large screen. So it seems there is SOME benefit to 4K for me but not a ton. And one could argue that eshift 4K would pretty much be hard to tell from native 4K in my setup. Therefore I don't put any value in eshift 8k. Let's get broadcast TV up to 4K first before we even start thinking about 8k...
Originally Posted by Highjinx
They(JVC) are hesitant to talk about how those contrast figures are achieved, is it true native or quasi native? remains to be confirmed.
That's a good point.