Originally Posted by dtraist
How is the brightness for you all?
Otherwise, I'm looking at some cheaper Epson's like the 4010 / 4050. They have 2200 lumens but of course are fake 4k.
I have total blacked out room, I find it pretty pleasing thus far at ~12ft throw on a 100" 1.0x gain white screen (Aeon EliteScreen). I am running it in Bright Cinema mode at the moment though. On white white parts of the image its little too much (see texture of the screen).
I'm currently more bothered about the lens drifting seemingly after a day or so between power ons. If thats its only quirk, I'll probably live with it (damn shame on a $$$ projector) till I can get a 100" TV/OLED (my room's rough max limit)
My two cents on 4k native PJ vs just PJ (faux-4k or 1080p): With my Sony VPL-VM295ES - One of the first things that came to mind once figured out how to lens shift and actually get an image on my screen was "WOW, damn, oh ho ho, that is one big image! F*$% yea!". And that stuck with me - it wasn't the pixel count/resolution/sharpness, but just the god damn size. I think this is what the Projector Central folks were talking about when they say faux 4k vs native 4k is not the question (but rather contrast/pixel quality). Additionally, things like screen quality, room light levels, auto iris capabilities and so on really tend to diminish the ability to get max value out of pixel quality in a projected image (not to mention source bitrate from streaming already taking a cut). This leads me to believe that the killer feature for a PJ is just that you're blasting a big ass image (as possible) - quality and resolution fade to much further out second position. If you're not rolling in big bucks, a decent 1080p projector (pixel shifter & HDR capable if you can afford it - ala recent Epson 3800) will punch your ticket very much so when it comes to projected image - 18gbps support and decent HDR capability being the modern features I would spring for. For non-projected image, technology like OLED, dimming zones, resolution are much more front and center, with screen size a close second. PJ = go for size and what can easily afford (cause size is what you're really buying, then HDR or 18gbps support, and then much later is resolution), TV = go for best resolution, quality picture because you can actually discern and much less variable result. I would strongly consider Epson 3800 considering my opinion its mostly about blasting a huge image. I have not tried the Epson 3800 but had the 5030UB at one point and it was damn amazing with the lights off.