Originally Posted by Javs
True Dynamic tone mapping has changed everything for the better. Those who have seen it and use it will never say you NEED 50-60fl that's total BS.
If you use static curves, then yes, maybe you need closer to 60fl to really make it work. Because static curves are archaic, They are only ever set for the very brightest pixel in the film in advance. Which is fleeting, it could be 3 pixels inside a single light bulb in only one scene in the movie for a few seconds and then its over. We know the true representation is an order of magnitude lower, we even use Dynamic Clipping now to actually clip something like the top 0.01% of the brightest pixels in every frame, since they are pretty much always trash pixels, not necessary, and all they do is pull down the available contrast in the image if you just discard them. Bin those few pixels inside the very center of a light bulb and you end up with a far brighter, much more dynamic image.
No, you do NOT need 60fl to make HDR work, you need excellent dynamic tone mapping. And that's based on a good year of hardcore HDR development in the MadVR thread if anybody has been following, testing every variation possible on how to get the very best from HDR, and here we are, and its friggen glorious!
Right now, only MadVR and the very latest Lumagen update has it. I dont think Roxie even has a theatre for the past number of months, so if he has not seen it, he really should reserve judgement until he does as it is going to completely recalibrate his brain when his jaw hits the floor. Is it going to be improved with 60fl? Sure, but if you know anything about how it actually works, MOST of what you look at will be the same brightness from 0-30fl anyway, and you can even probably go 1/3rd of a film depending on what you watch before it gets any brighter.
How does dynamic tone mapping works if the source material doesn't have the dynamic tags? Does the MadVR look in real time at every frame and interpolate it even without the meta data?
Originally Posted by plasmaowner
I really don't care to read all this debate about how you don't need much brightness yada yada yada to get the best HDR. I swear it seems like every other post here, in a round about way, is intentionally trying to discourage potential buyers of the LK970/990. You know good and well that the main selling point of this projector IS for it's HIGH brightness among other things. And I'm so sick of seeing JVC this, JVC that, JVC model this, please take it somewhere else.
Have a lovely day
More like discourage anyone from buying anything NOT jvc!
Originally Posted by Maestrosc
It is 100%
But, I dont know how actually close this is to production, as AVS members seem to think.
But I dont see this thing releasing anytime soon, personally. Getting hardware built sourced produced etc etc... not as straightforward as writing code.
Also price, if it is anything like the Lumagem Radiance Pro... you are paying 3-5x the cost of a HTPC just for it to be more user friendly.
But I am definitely keeping an eye out, worse comes to worse a HTPC would make a great gaming PC if the MadVR Envy does release anytime soon.
Yeah, I am thinking along the same line. Getting hardware manufactured is not easy. You will need quite a bit of investment. You'll need the licenses for everything.... etc.. So, not holding my breath. On the other hand, HTPC isn't an option as well as it's not easy to use. I like plug and play. Perhaps MadVR can find a Media Player company to bring it to market, for example, Zidoo,...