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post #361 of 506 Old 08-09-2019, 11:04 AM
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Hi troy,



I have a question for you (and other peoples here). I'm currently moving to a new flat and I will have 3m (9.8ft) from wall to wall.

I currently own an HW55-ES but with those distance, I calculated that it can at the max. project an ~78" image. So I would like to know if it's better to switch to an UST projector (but I would like to have one be better than my current projector) to have a 100" image or to buy a 75" TV (There is a big bargain on the samsung 75qe900r in a store near me currently, but as it an exposition model it will not stay long).

What do you think it's the best ? (I watch lot of movie but also play lot of video games and it seems most UST projector have a very bad input lag).
Solal, I would definitely recommend going to a UST projector if it is in your budget. Ease of install and viewing immersion will be so much better than using the current projector you have or getting a bigger LCD TV.

UST projectors are getting better all the time but this projector we're discussing is on the high end so you may want to check out the Optoma offering or maybe Viewsonic and lastly the Chinese manufacturers.

Good luck.

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Hi,



Thank you for the answer I'm using a projectors for more than ten years (for every things, gaming, movie or watching TV show), so it's true that it will be difficult to come back to a TV (but I was always at more than 4m from the wall). For the moment the only one that correspond to what I want is the LG because the xiaomi as too much latency to be used to play game (even the LG is not that great with 64ms). As I will not move until November, I have time to see how goods will the optoma and the viewsonic be, if there are not better at the input lag I should probably buy the LG and announce to my wife that I will spend 7000 euros for a projector and a screen (I was more thinking to spend around 3ke when I was looking for something new).
Anyway I'm really looking forward a technical review of this projector.
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Overall a glowing review, but I'm more intrigued that he mentioned the new Optoma P1 is a dual laser like the LG...

If that's true, what a deal for the Optoma comparatively.

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Overall a glowing review, but I'm more intrigued that he mentioned the new Optoma P1 is a dual laser like the LG...

If that's true, what a deal for the Optoma comparatively.

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The Optoma is a single blue laser, Art was incorrect. I've sent him a message.

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Great to finally get a proper review!

Now, all we need is an equivalent review of the Optoma P1. I am thinking there are a ton of people waiting with bated breath.

Personally, I am thinking that if the Optoma even has 85% of the performance of the LG, I will go with it. $3000 is far more palatable than double that figure.

I skimmed the article, but couldn't find out which screen they used? Can anyone with better reading comprehension than I have, chime in? Thanks!

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So Art says its the .47" DMD and not the .66"?

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So Art says its the .47" DMD and not the .66"?
4K UHD resolution
  • 2716x1528x2 pixel shifting projector
LG is a 2716x1528x2 pixel shifter – using the larger .66″ chip.
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So Art says its the .47" DMD and not the .66"?
I think that debate has been put to bed? Confirmed 0.66", I believe.
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Really fantastic review, those images with ambient light are really impressive. This new crop of UST projectors has me excited more than any other display tech in quite some time.
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I think that debate has been put to bed? Confirmed 0.66", I believe.
Correct, .66" confirmed. Art was incorrect again. 😢

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It's not up on any of the projector calculators yet. But I wonder if since it's so close to the screen if it will be equivalent brightness to a 5000 lumens projector 18 feet away.

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It's not up on any of the projector calculators yet. But I wonder if since it's so close to the screen if it will be equivalent brightness to a 5000 lumens projector 18 feet away.


I don’t know about it being equal to 5,000 lumens. I can say that my current 795 lumen UST seems just as bright as my previous 1,200 lumen standard throw projector that was 11’ away.
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These UST projectors seem to scream rear projection. I wonder what the problem is limiting that use. Seems like an easy increase in brightness.

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Gesh I'm having such a hard time settling on a UST. I have so many pros and cons and I cant Prioritize them enough to figure out if I would be happy

First except for one UST projector I lose the ability to have a large screen. I'm stuck around the 120" area and now I'm not sure its worth the hassle over an 85" Flat Screen

Second, I lose the 2.39 possibility and use of a panamorph to achieve an incredible cinema experience.

And those are the 2 main reasons I want a projector in my living room

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I have very minimal design issues and mounting problems.
and wiring becomes incredibly easy.

So what I'm beginning to come to is that If i can deal with the mounting and wiring issues easily on the standard projector I would get a much better picture covering a much larger image.

I'm just having a hard time convincing myself I would be happy with 16:9 120" screen.

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Why does that thing only comes in white if it's meant for HT? At least offer black option. And gold with black top
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Anybody that has the xy fixed screens, do you think if you moved house or in my situation move country in 12 month , do you think the screen and frame will pack down and shipped and the re assembled ok re quality of screw holes etc ??
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does anyone have a link to comparison between HU85LA and HU80KA? do they have same 0.66" DMD, how do they compare?
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does anyone have a link to comparison between HU85LA and HU80KA? do they have same 0.66" DMD, how do they compare?
The only comparison is that they're made by the same company, other than that they are completely different projectors. In the review posted by Projectorreviews.com, Art does a very brief comparison but states that the HU85L is a different beast. See the review posted a page or so back. Keep in mind that the HU85L is dual laser and a UST projector with a bigger DLP chipet so a comparision isn't really needed, the HU85L blows the HU80KA out of the water by a long margin.

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Thanks @Troy for explanation.
Hmm.. it was very weird to me since i just started looking at 4k projectors and on lg's website I saw that both looked eerily similar to where there placement was and thus the question, since the price difference is huge between them. here are the links which show them:
lg dot com /us/images/TV/features/F2-1_HU80KA_2018_Feature_09_TransformingDesign_1_D-v2.jpg
lg dot com /us/images/home-video/md06065176/features/PJT-HU85L-05-2-UST-2-D.jpg
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Thanks @Troy for explanation.
Hmm.. it was very weird to me since i just started looking at 4k projectors and on lg's website I saw that both looked eerily similar to where there placement was and thus the question, since the price difference is huge between them. here are the links which show them:
lg dot com /us/images/TV/features/F2-1_HU80KA_2018_Feature_09_TransformingDesign_1_D-v2.jpg
lg dot com /us/images/home-video/md06065176/features/PJT-HU85L-05-2-UST-2-D.jpg
Those are marketing representations, but to me they don't really look that similiar. The HU85 is right up against the screen, where as the HU80 is about 6-8 ft back, you can't put an UST 6-8 feet back...just saying.

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LG HU85LA Demo

Here's a quick install video of the LG HU85LA, paired with a Screen Innovations Zero Edge Pro 120" UST ALR Screen, housed in a custom Salamander Designs Chameleon series UST Cabinet, Denon AVR-1600H Receiver and GoldenEar Reference Center Channel speaker.

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This looks so very promising.
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This looks so very promising.


I'm starting to really lean more towards this projector, over the Optoma P1. I think it's definitely worth spending the extra cash on this one.


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I'm starting to really lean more towards this projector, over the Optoma P1. I think it's definitely worth spending the extra cash on this one.


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Depends, for me the lack of 3D, higher input lag and extra cost have me leaning towards the Optoma.
If LG had included 3D, or put a game mode with a sub 60ms lag the extra cost would be a no brainer for me.
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Depends, for me the lack of 3D, higher input lag and extra cost have me leaning towards the Optoma.
If LG had included 3D, or put a game mode with a sub 60ms lag the extra cost would be a no brainer for me.

The LG as a game mode with 58ms of input lag according to this test : https://www.projectorreviews.com/lg/...cial-features/ . Also, it seem there is still lot of settings accessible in game mode, even if not all like video correction is activated. With the optoma you must deactivate lot of settings too, like geometry correction.



I currently have a sony HW-55es who have an input lag of around 27ms but what is interesting is that the input lag is the same in game mode or in reference mode who come with well calibrated colors. I would like to know if it will be the same with the optoma and the LG, it great to have a game mode with an acceptable input lag, but would like to have correct colors too. It will be very great to have some test of this projector oriented towards gaming.
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70 ms input lag


I have just published the LG HU85LA test in French and English. In conclusion it is a little expensive compared to the XIAOMI 4K models.


https://www.passionhomecinema.fr/blo...is-de-gregory/
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Thank you Kraine, do you think you will test the optoma p1 when it will be released ?
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