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The colors looked way off as always for LG projectors. Hopefully for $3,000 they put some real color management settings in, or at least one mode that is close to rec709 or dci-p3. The throw range is really good though. That screen was 120” and the projector looked almost right up to the wall.
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Two lasers used for Red and Blue but no information how Green is made....
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Hopefully those poor black levels in the video look worse than they actually are due to the camera's exposure. That would be a letdown.
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Hopefully those poor black levels in the video look worse than they actually are due to the camera's exposure. That would be a letdown.
My thoughts exactly but considering it is 2500 lumens in a bright room, I am willing to excuse them. My Xiaomi UST Laser projector is 2500 lumens and it performs the same in a bright room.

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Another quick take here, confirms HDR10 support, shows off the back of the unit, and a few more details:

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I’m really excited about this one. I hope for a 0.66 chip, decent contrast and a price under 5k euro.
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I’m really excited about this one. I hope for a 0.66 chip, decent contrast and a price under 5k euro.
I hope to..otherwise we have a New opponent Optoma P1 3000 lumen
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I found another video of this projector. The colors look a lot more accurate in this video. I’m not sure if the other videos have too much compression, this video is a little reassuring.

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Given the fact that LG is very quiet about this one, I assume that the specs are not yet finalized and what has been shown is a preproduction unit. Hopefully will see something at CEDIA along with the 4k successor of Epson LS100.
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Ok that sounds more reasonable


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$1,200 is nothing in terms of projectors. This particular LG will probably be in the $6K - $8K range. Considering you cant buy any 4K TV on the market over 88" for under $10K
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$1,200 is nothing in terms of projectors. This particular LG will probably be in the $6K - $8K range. Considering you cant buy any 4K TV on the market over 88" for under $10K


Why would they price it so high when the Optoma P1 will soon arrive a tick below 3 grand?


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Why would they price it so high when the Optoma P1 will soon arrive a tick below 3 grand?


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because it is LG and they believe they are a premium brand name that demands more money. Do I agree with that no but others may disagree.
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What did Optoma do to hit that price point ? Another apples and oranges comparison.

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It will be “true 4k”, a term coined by Texas Instruments for DLP projectors that shift pixels 4x per frame to create a 4k image on the screen. This is nearly indistinguishable from native 4k in terms of resolution. “e-shift” is a term coined by JVC, it can only shift twice per frame to create a 2k image. This is still noticeably higher resolution than 1080p and noticeably less than 4k.

As far as contrast, it will almost certainly have substantially lower contrast than JVC and Sony. However UST projectors can be paired with UST specific screens that can enhance the contrast in ambient light. If you are setting this up in a living room with a proper UST screen it will likely have a much better picture than a JVC or Sony projector in the same environment.

So it’s not really fair to compare this with JVC or Sony. Those are designed for a home cinema where the LG is designed to replicate a very large tv.
Thanks for the input. The UST projectors caught my eye last year, and this one really has my attention.

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LG HU85L 4K Ultra Short Throw Projector Announced.

I’m really glad to see some movement in the UST projector category. If I didn’t have my dedicated room I would definitely look at putting something like this in my living room, and if I ever move I might just do this instead of a dedicated room.


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What did Optoma do to hit that price point ? Another apples and oranges comparison.
Since this would be my primary device with heavy usage, not sure a laser is the best way for me to go, but I am a projector newbie.

This post in the Optoma thread shows they are using the same chip.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...l#post57425644

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Since this would be my primary device with heavy usage, not sure a laser is the best way for me to go, but I am a projector newbie.



This post in the Optoma thread shows they are using the same chip.



https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...l#post57425644


Laser is the way you want to go. Most are rated for 20,000 hours but not sure on this one


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Since this would be my primary device with heavy usage, not sure a laser is the best way for me to go, but I am a projector newbie.

This post in the Optoma thread shows they are using the same chip.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...l#post57425644
If it’s the same chip, then I don’t see why somebody would chose this over Optoma. I still hope that information is not true.
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LG HU85L 4K Ultra Short Throw Projector Announced.

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If it’s the same chip, then I don’t see why somebody would chose this over Optoma. I still hope that information is not true.


The LG has a duel laser light engine. This will likely give it higher brightness and potential for more accurate color. Also LG has a more proven smart tv platform and a tv tuner for chord cutters. The LG also looks better and has a slightly shorter throw ratio I believe it’s .19:1 vs Optoma’s .25:1.
The Optoma has 3D and hopefully lower input lag. LG historically has had atrocious input lag in its projectors.
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Does the current Lg UST have pro cal controls?

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I don't know who's brilliant idea it was to setup that extra stupid a$$ down shooting projector, RIGHT next to a UST demo, but they need to be flogged with a soggy celery stick! Stupidest setup ever!!

Anywho, it definitely seems like they are not using an ALR screen with this demo, could be just a black painted board BUT colors and contrast look much better than the other demos, given the circumstances.

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Does the current Lg UST have pro cal controls?


The LG HU80K has most but not all picture adjustments necessary for calibration. The HU85L will likely be the same. If you read this review below it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the HU85L.

http://www.passionhomecinema.fr/blog...lavis-de-greg/
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Even better representation



I don't know who's brilliant idea it was to setup that extra stupid a$$ down shooting projector, RIGHT next to a UST demo, but they need to be flogged with a soggy celery stick! Stupidest setup ever!!



Anywho, it definitely seems like they are not using an ALR screen with this demo, could be just a black painted board BUT colors and contrast look much better than the other demos, given the circumstances.



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I noticed that pj also, I agree it is defiantly self defeating. I also think the contrast looks very good considering the poor setup. The motion handling looks pretty good too, not overly aggressive.
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Keep in mind that all of these videos are capturing the projector displaying HDR content so dependent on the recording device and YouTube compression the colors are going to come across "off"....with that said, color is still looking great and I'm sure the dual laser will perform admirably.

I can't wait to see what percentage of DCI P3 this PJ covers.

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Keep in mind that all of these videos are capturing the projector displaying HDR content so dependent on the recording device and YouTube compression the colors are going to come across "off"....with that said, color is still looking great and I'm sure the dual laser will perform admirably.

I can't wait to see what percentage of DCI P3 this PJ covers.
I saw this at CES and was pretty impressed with the technology. I'm no video expect and was wondering if true video enthusiests see this as better than an OLED display
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I saw this at CES and was pretty impressed with the technology. I'm no video expect and was wondering if true video enthusiests see this as better than an OLED display
Definitely not better, it's a more immersive experience for sure, but the representation of black on OLED panels is the bees knees for setting up good contrast and color reproduction. The ultimate display would have OLED blacks but scalable to projector sized screens. Samsung's Micro LED panels might be the cure for that but at a cost. Maybe in 5 years when the price comes down, we can start seeing large screen sizes with OLED like blacks.
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Even better representation

I don't know who's brilliant idea it was to setup that extra stupid a$$ down shooting projector, RIGHT next to a UST demo, but they need to be flogged with a soggy celery stick! Stupidest setup ever!!
What is worse is that after all that engineering that goes into creating this projector, some brilliant mind decided to paint the projector in WHITE color so that you can be distracted by the whiteness while watching a movie in a darken room.

Projectors should always be painted black or at least dark gray. This is not an iphone so do not try to make it look cute and pretty.
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What is worse is that after all that engineering that goes into creating this projector, some brilliant mind decided to paint the projector in WHITE color so that you can be distracted by the whiteness while watching a movie in a darken room.

Projectors should always be painted black or at least dark gray. This is not an iphone so do not try to make it look cute and pretty.
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Too funny.

I would venture to say that the majority of entry level to mid-range PJs are actually white although most are hung out of sight. USTs are now the hot ticket item so just maybe they actually are trying to draw in that crowd that adores the iPhone and all things Apple! Not that I blame them, it's a great market segment to go after because they do like their toys!

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LGs product page is up, no additional details outside of what we already know as it says "coming soon".

Check it out here.

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