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post #241 of 264 Old 06-18-2019, 11:28 AM - Thread Starter
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The Xiaomi isn't dual laser unfortunately. Dual laser is specific to a red and a blue laser where as the Xiaomi only utilizes a blue laser (not sure how they're claiming ALPD 3.0).



But you will also get much better color and color calibration from the LG than you'll ever get with the Xiaomi.


ALPD 3.0 is dual laser, why do you believe they’re not really using ALPD 3.0? Also, LG historically has lacked picture adjustments, I don’t see any reason to think this one will be any different.
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ALPD 3.0 is dual laser, why do you believe they’re not really using ALPD 3.0? Also, LG historically has lacked picture adjustments, I don’t see any reason to think this one will be any different.
The first biggest reason is cost; TRUE dual laser is expensive which we're finding out with the LG (also Hisense's dual laser is $7K without screen)

Second is color; ALPD 3.0 SHOULD cover DCI P3, which none of the Xiaomi PJs do (or any of the other Chinese models)

Third is advertising; there is absolutely zero mention of "dual" laser capability ANYWHERE in their advertising or specs. If it were true dual laser then I guarantee you 100% that they would have advertised it as such.

Again as I've mentioned before the technology is there for all to use but the implementation is dependent on each specific manufacturer. They probably utilize the name but not the full extent of the technology like we see with how some manufacturers choose to implement certain aspects of DLP tech and not others, 3D for example.

As for LG and color calibration, the predecessor
has way more color control options than ANY of the Chinese models, including:

  • contrast
  • tint
  • color temperature
  • dynamic contrast
  • sharpness
  • AND RGB color controls

Guranteed at this price point we'll get better color controls than before and even if not, it's still light years ahead of the Chinese in that regard. 😎

At this point it seems that they've priced themselves out of a larger market segment but who knows maybe in time it'll drop down below 3000.

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Not much really. Both have the XPR .47 dmd both have a duel laser design. LG you get a tv tuner, probably a more stable android based ui, better video processing and the piece of mind knowing it’s warrantied by a well known manufacturer.
It was just confusing me as to why this was being compared with projectors that cost $30k+ rather than ones that are already on the market at less than half the price.

Obviously Xiaomi is going to be cheaper than LG but if there was truly no difference $3k is a crazy difference in price.

If the subsequent discussions on dual laser are correct - that may well explain it, the Vava - which appears to be from the same OEM as the Xiaomi only covers 80% of DCI-P3. It should be at 92% for the dual laser system so what Troy says makes a lot of sense.

$5k is a bitter pill to swallow, but if you want 4k and half decent HDR support it may be the only option at the moment.

Do we know if the Optoma P1 and the Viewsonic x1000 will be single or dual laser designs?
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It was just confusing me as to why this was being compared with projectors that cost $30k+ rather than ones that are already on the market at less than half the price.



Obviously Xiaomi is going to be cheaper than LG but if there was truly no difference $3k is a crazy difference in price.



If the subsequent discussions on dual laser are correct - that may well explain it, the Vava - which appears to be from the same OEM as the Xiaomi only covers 80% of DCI-P3. It should be at 92% for the dual laser system so what Troy says makes a lot of sense.



$5k is a bitter pill to swallow, but if you want 4k and half decent HDR support it may be the only option at the moment.



Do we know if the Optoma P1 and the Viewsonic x1000 will be single or dual laser designs?


The optoma will be a single red laser, and the ViewSonic will be RGB LED.
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The optoma will be a single red laser, and the ViewSonic will be RGB LED.
I think this must explain the price difference then, as I believe the Optoma is destined to be cheaper.

Don't know why I thought the Viewsonic was laser!

And do you know what system the Dell s718ql uses? I can find various mentions of it covering "130%" of Rec709 which seems like a lot if it's a single laser PJ also?
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I think this must explain the price difference then, as I believe the Optoma is destined to be cheaper.



Don't know why I thought the Viewsonic was laser!



And do you know what system the Dell s718ql uses? I can find various mentions of it covering "130%" of Rec709 which seems like a lot if it's a single laser PJ also?


The Dell was designed by Coretronic (Optoma’s parent company. I think it only uses one blue laser. Honestly, I don’t know how they got nearly 3,000 usable lumens. It must be a really powerful high quality laser. As for colorspace I doubt it has 130% rec709, but I can’t say for sure.
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youtu.be/xGIItPShogQ

Just posted a couple of days ago at rave publications YouTube page. Looks like the ViewSonic is going to be the most competitive as far as price goes.

Also sounds like there is a confirmed launch date in September.


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Very interesting! Hope it is coming out soon, surprised by its size, though - seems relatively big compared to the Xiaomi.
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I just watched the video and realized they have the color space listed: 97% of DCI P3! 😁😎
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The Projector People have a new hands on...


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Just fast forward to the 4:07 minute/second mark to see the stunning image in the dark

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Now I’m hyped
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Looks fantastic in the dark, hopefully in the daylight too! Why does it have to be so expensive?? :/
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6K USD. Insane. The Optoma is on my radar now.
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6K USD. Insane. The Optoma is on my radar now.
Am I missing something or is this a typo?
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Am I missing something or is this a typo?
Nope. 6K as in $6,000. That 6K. PJ is still 4K
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The HU85LA is available for order on b&h, price is indeed $5,996. For that much I think I'd buy an 82" tv and a $2k projector.
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The HU85LA is available for order on b&h, price is indeed $5,996. For that much I think I'd buy an 82" tv and a $2k projector.
What a shame. For $6k that is a pass from me as well, will just buy a 77" OLED for that money to be honest, let's hope for a nice drop in price sometime soon!
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Nope. 6K as in $6,000. That 6K. PJ is still 4K
Gotcha! My brain did not process that at all!
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Well, looks like I won't be picking this up. Can anybody suggest any reasonable alternatives? I'm not really interested in the Xiaomi Mijia since I might want to do some gaming. But I definitely want a really good picture.
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Well, looks like I won't be picking this up. Can anybody suggest any reasonable alternatives? I'm not really interested in the Xiaomi Mijia since I might want to do some gaming. But I definitely want a really good picture.


If you don’t want over a 100” screen and 3D isn’t important to you, I have a feeling that the ViewSonic X1000 might be the best 4k picture quality. It has a newly developed RGB LED light engine and they generally make very excellent projectors imo. If you want a screen larger than 100” and 3D is important, then the Optoma P1 might be a good choice. Unfortunately, they’re not being launched until late Q4 this year.
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Thanks for the reply. That Optomo looks really good. I can wait until Q4 for the optimum price/performance ration. I had my heart set on the LG since I have a 65 inch LG OLED and I love it, but not at that quoted price.
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If you don’t want over a 100” screen and 3D isn’t important to you, I have a feeling that the ViewSonic X1000 might be the best 4k picture quality. It has a newly developed RGB LED light engine and they generally make very excellent projectors imo. If you want a screen larger than 100” and 3D is important, then the Optoma P1 might be a good choice. Unfortunately, they’re not being launched until late Q4 this year.

Do we know for sure the Viewsonic won't have 3D? That was the only one that seemed to fit my needs perfectly until you said that .
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