Originally Posted by Jmouse007
"A handful"? Read through all of the existing owners posts; the overwhelming majority of new o w n e r s posting are reporting problems and defects with their brand new projectors right out of the box.
You should correct this statement, you mean LESS THAN HALF of FORUM MEMBERS who are OWNERS are reporting problems. I would be surprised if more than 5% of current owners were members of the forum, and if I am right, that means around 2% of owners have problems. Even if I am off by 100% in my estimate, your statement is still completely false.
If there are "hundreds" of satisfied customers as you suggest, where are all of their glowing reviews? Where are all of the glowing professional reviews?
Most consumers don't review products they buy. Usually you hear from disgruntled owners, people who like to review products, people who disagree with negative reviews, and people who are trying to help out the company by raving about the product.
For example, in the book business, I get about 1 review per 100 books sold. I don't sell projectors, but consumers in general simply don't care to speak up about products unless there is something unusual (good or bad).
High end projectors are fairly niche, and a forum like AVS is the niche users in a niche hobby, so while I can't say that the numbers in general consumer products hold up here, I would NEVER assume the voices here represent 100% of the market, or even 10% of the market for that matter.
I also trust my dealer, and if they say they have shipped hundreds in the U.S. already, then I believe it.
At this point it seems like a "crap shoot" where customers who have shelled out up to $13,000 dollars have to "hope" that they are one of the lucky, fortune few who get one of the "good ones". And even then they don't know if in a month or two they are going to have to take their 50 pound projector down, repackage it and ship it back to JVC.
From what I see, I have about a 95% chance to get a perfect model, and Crap shoots never have that good of odds.
Sure, it is discouraging to see some issues with some users in the first couple batches. It doesn't change my mind on my purchase because worst case scenario, I have to send it back for a replacement. So far, of the 3 projectors I have owned, 2 had to go back (one bad out of the box, and one failed in the first couple months of use). And none of those were JVC. So it wouldn't be unusual to me to have to send it back, especially considering the size and weight of this unit. I just hope I am due some good luck this time around, lol.
That said, I, along with many others here on AVS staunchly refuse to any longer be an unpaid, "early adopter" beta tester guinea pigs for a billion dollar AV company at my own expense.
Trust me, I have more stories about getting burned by new technology and being an early adopter than I could write about. Half my life has been spent fixing unready technology, arguing with manufacturers and programmers about issues they would rather deny. But the fact is, you don't speak for this AVS user, and frankly I don't see this projector as "beta" in the slightest. It is a new model, sure, but mostly contains tech that is well established. Just like I wouldn't hesitate to buy the latest gen Intel processor the first month it comes out, I didn't hesitate to buy this tech.
Furthermore, aside from freight damage and a couple cases of bad units out of the box, none of the issues I have read about this projector so far will bother me. I know that before long I will have exactly the projector I need for my situation, and I also know that unless I am spending about 20x as much, I can't expect "perfection".
Thanks, but no thanks... been there, done that and those days are over.
I totally respect your decision to not buy this projector, but it begs the question of why you have spent so much time in the *owner's* thread trying to convince others that this is a bad choice? I don't see what you are contributing to the owners here.
I'm sure that what you have to say would fit better with people looking at all possible products to make a decision on either upgrading or buying their first projector, and this is NOT that thread. Perhaps the comparison thread would be a better soap box for you?