Originally Posted by markmon1
It's not a difference of 98/100 vs 100/100.
You are missing my point, which is probably my fault as I am not explaining it right or something.
The way you are saying things, it makes it sound like you felt your rs4500 was a piece of junk without MadVR. Bottom of the barrel and if you had to rate it on a scale of 1-100, you would give it a 50, meaning it could be easily twice as good overall. Boy, you had a really crappy projector before MadVR made those changes a few weeks ago and made it twice as good, bringing it up to a near 100 out of 100. Night and Day, Twice as good, easily, right?
But we both know that is a load of hooey. Your rs4500 is easily considered one of the best projectors you can buy for under $100k. So adding MadVR doesn't make it twice as good, it makes it incrementally
better as a whole. We have top notch theaters, and while one particular aspect might gain significant improvement with an upgrade, the overall performance of the theater doesn't suddenly skyrocket. If one small aspect change suddenly makes it "night and day" better, then it sucked ass before.
So if you already feel like your HDR performance with a custom curve or tone mapping is excellent, 95% of perfect, and almost as good as it can get, improving it doesn't suddenly make it twice as good. It makes it incrementally better. And even if your HDR was crap before and suddenly it is better by an order of magnitude, your top end projector didn't suddenly get better, only one small aspect of it did. That is also an incremental change.
All that being said, I do understand what MadVR is doing, and I am not trying to take away how much better it is than regular static data based tone mapping. I won't even argue that the producer or director or cinematographer may have wanted it to all be based off a certain set of parameters, leaving dark scenes dark and some bright scenes overly bright and blown out, because it is all semantics. The fact is, between the way you view content and the way your theater is set up, adding MadVR with an HTPC *added* and didn't *subtract* from your theater. That's awesome!. In my setup I would be sacrificing one of the major properties of my theater, something I have spent a lot of money and time to make work nearly perfectly, and for an incremental improvement in the overall quality of my theater, it isn't worth it, especially when you consider that it would only affect 3% of my total viewing experience. The JVC built in tone mapping is an incremental improvement for me over my current custom curve, one I could make without sacrificing my simplistic setup. The DCR lens will be an incremental change in viewing scope, one that in some respects will simplify the operation of my theater even further (more because of the JVC memories than anything else). I am getting two very nice incremental improvements to my theater (which I already feel is worth the money), and the last thing I am going to do is think it is all suddenly crap that can be twice as good with MadVR.
Now, if the internal tone mapping of the JVC ends up being a step down from what I had with the Epson using the custom curve, then I will have to rethink some things, starting with why I made such a bad decision buying the JVC. I hope it doesn't come to that.