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I got my NX5 and I'm in the Chicago area.
I did hear that nx5 were coming to chicago
But not 7 or 9
I ordered my 9 last September
I live downtown where do you live and who was your dealer please?
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I did hear that nx5 were coming to chicago
But not 7 or 9
I ordered my 9 last September
I live downtown where do you live and who was your dealer please?
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That calculator puts the rated lumens of the rs2000/NX7 at 1800 and the calibrated lumens at 1260.. that doesn't sound right. Rated is 1900, I would assume calibrated would be around 1500-1600 based on what I have read to date.
I'm guessing 1000/1400 at mid-zoom at this point (low/high), but don't have enough data yet.
1800 does seem too high.

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Does an *open* box really have all that much hush? I assumed I'd have to build something that fully enclosed the projector if I really wanted to quiet it down.
When your sitting under the unit, yes it does help, I do not hear anything with my 540U as most of the sound is projected in front and behind. Its not that hard to enclosed the whole box and add a few fans though as you mentioned.

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If you have a chief mount and plan on using the stock screws that come with it, I wouldn't advise it. I picked up some extra screws based on the post in here that says they are too small, and they were totally right. This is the screw that came with my mount dropped in the hole without being tightened, there is maybe 2 or 3 threads that would engage. I replaced with 25MM screws since that is the max length in the manual.
Could have just added a few more washer's if you had them?
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When your sitting under the unit, yes it does help, I do not hear anything with my 540U as most of the sound is projected in front and behind. Its not that hard to enclosed the whole box and add a few fans though as you mentioned.

Could have just added a few more washer's if you had them?
You are thinking the opposite, that is the stock screw before I started to screw it in, as in just sitting in the hole. Basically the stock mount screw is way too short and would only engage like 2 threads. I put in longer 25mm screws to solve it.
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I'm still on 1.17 firmware as well.
I'm on 1.17 too. I actually don't really care how long it boots or does whatever it needs to do. I usually forget to fill my water bottle and have to get up a couple times before I start a movie or streaming. Then my poor dog takes my seat and I have to renegotiate with her for a new, albeit smaller seating area, in order to find a spot on the sofa. So it is ready to go when I finally get comfortable.
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Combustion stuff is one thing, but what about humidifier's during drier months, vapor pens, etc. which is just essentially moisture...or to an even lesser extent, and one that may affect me personally is my wife's essential oil diffusers. No combustion, no parabens, just scented moisture. My guess is any of these, assuming the moisture level in the room doesn't get exorbitantly high would be ok...best avoided, but still much better than the aforementioned.
Humidifiers can be really, really bad. What type of system? The ultrasonic style spew minerals into the air that are attracted to electronics. Have you ever seen the white dust like particles that lay around the humidifier? I wouldn't use any humidifier around the audio gear. The moist air also makes the dust on whatever component turn into a caked on layer. So I'd keep the humidifiers out of the audio/video compartments and man cave.
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Well, solving one problem at a time. I received my candle warmer this afternoon. Works pretty damn good. 2 more issues to solve. 1) the slight bend down of the image to lower right corner of the screen. 2) 6 minutes and 9 seconds startup time. Other than that my NX7 is quite impressive. Love it. Regarding #1 the bend down image, in the Installation Mode of Menu, I've tried to make adjustment to the image using the shift and zoom options in LENS CONTROL to no avail. Second to the last option of PINCUSHION remains unhighlighted, as in not available for adjustment. Can someone say how to turn this option on or make it available?
go to my post number 6577 on 2-23-19. There are a number of posts working on this issue and fix. Here is what I had to say


In hanging my projector, I noticed the same thing. The first thing I did was to center the lens back to its home base. Then I worked the mount adjusting the pitch and roll and just slowly worked the mount to show things being square on the screen. You'll need to adjust the zoom to move in and out while making your adjustments. Use the shift to move the entire image to the edges so your mount adjustments are easily seen. It took 15 or 20 minutes of work, but easy with the Chief mount with the geared adjustments.
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That calculator puts the rated lumens of the rs2000/NX7 at 1800 and the calibrated lumens at 1260.. that doesn't sound right. Rated is 1900, I would assume calibrated would be around 1500-1600 based on what I have read to date.
In using the calculator I get the following figures:
Calibrated lumens 1500
0.9 gain- 23.5 ftL
1.0 gain - 26.1 ftL

Calibrated lumens 1600
0.9 gain - 25.1 ftL
1.0 gain - 26.1 ftL

I've attached the data sheet on AT screen.

So again, if I am getting less than 20 ftL in high lamp mode (with manual iris fully open) for 130" 2.40 1.0 gain screen, 15ft from screen, do you guys think I have a faulty unit? The calibrated lumens needs to be around 1270 to get below 20 ftL using the 0.9 gain figure.

I can use the custom gamma curve or picture tone ruler to make the image brighter but is that not affecting color accuracy? The normal calibrated image just doesn't seem bright enough.

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I used 30mm screws on my Chief mount. I screwed them in before using to make sure I wasn't bottoming out inside onto something. Back to viewing of my non-defective 2019 JVC projector.
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It's pretty unlikely you have a faulty projector.
You should buy a light meter, measure the current lamp, swap the bulb, then measure the new bulb and see if there is a big difference in what the light meter says.

You did set the manual aperture setting all the way open?

A 10% to 15% variance on lamp output is fairly normal, because peoples measuring techniques are often slightly flawed + meter error + lamp variance.
However you need to measure the projector yourself, it's the only way you'll really know.
Most of the cheap meters read slightly high, and most peoples measurement techniques are slightly low, so it almost cancels the error out anyhow.
Though there is an inherent bias for some people to round up too easily, but that is a different problem.

Go grab you an lx1010B off ebay for $20...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-500...lYk:rk:19:pf:0

or here is a New Extech for around $80
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Extech-...Condition=1000

Watch out for CMD / frame interpolation modes enabled too, at least on older JVC's this could really mess with the lumens numbers.

Buy a light meter and check yourself, open the aperture all the way, set the projector to the brightest mode, turn off all enhancements and filters.
Take a torch mode measurement. Change the bulb and DONT touch the projectors settings, fire the projector up, take another measurement.

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I'm hearing now that the reason we are not seeing units in our neck of the woods as yet is due to the issues reported here, which I'm told relate back to the original production delay. Sounds like a few months till they sort things out enough to get units down our way from what's been indicated.
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I will compare all my lux meters again and see how much difference I get just for fun.

I currently have an LX1330B, an LX1010B, and 'I think' an Extech 401025. I have another Extech somewhere if I can find it, don't remember the exact model at the moment.
The only reason I even still have the 1330B and the 1010B is just because they were so cheap I never bothered to sell them.

I used to have an AEMC, a Sekonic, and a Reed instruments one.
I had a couple other generic ones, one of them had a leaky battery so I threw it away.
The worst one I had was the Reed Instruments (15% to 20% off across all), and it was supposed to be certified, it was probably faulty.

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I'm hearing now that the reason we are not seeing units in our neck of the woods as yet is due to the issues reported here, which I'm told relate back to the original production delay. Sounds like a few months till they sort things out enough to get units down our way from what's been indicated.
Seriously? What are the units already delivered, electronic waste?

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I'm hearing now that the reason we are not seeing units in our neck of the woods as yet is due to the issues reported here, which I'm told relate back to the original production delay. Sounds like a few months till they sort things out enough to get units down our way from what's been indicated.
Interesting...


Observation From A potential Buyer ( Not in USA) ..........

Funny how there's not a single word about the chromatic aberrations, the dreadful panel alignment and the yellowing of whites reported worldwide. I've seen this PJ in great detail in Australia and I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole.... Don't be fooled these reviewers are biased towards the positive for a reason. It's all well and good to tout all glass optics but when the image turns to crap on one whole side of the screen due to poor panel alignment and dreadful CA from inferior optics. seems like jvc couldn't care less.

I think we'll see the return of single chip machines given these ones can't display a uniform image. if this was a tv you'd laugh and return it.. maybe you'd cry I don't know.. But it's woeful quality control on jvc's part.

Now their projectors have taken a massive contrast hit, they're no longer ahead of everyone else so there's no real main selling point anymore as contrast was the most important factor among movies enthusiasts, right? JVC were known for being the best in the game, now the contrast is ordinary and the rest of the image across the screen is sub standard because of the above mentioned problems... where's their advantage now? It doesn't exist.
sorry to seem negative but I was looking forward to this machine and had an order in for one, but now I've cancelled my order and will wait to see what the outcome ends up being. Let's keep it real. It's not fair on others who might buy this machine sight unseen and put faith in reviews that are clearly not telling the whole picture. cheers and thanks.
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Wow, that's a bad one, hard to take that one seriously.

That sounds like a bum unit for sure. There are bum units in all models and series.

Difference of 40,000:1 and 80,000:1 is the same as 4000:1 to 8000:1 in general relativeness.
It is a small noticeable difference, but it's not nearly as big of a difference as the numbers appear.

That's why it always made me laugh when someone said, well I can take 60,000:1 on/off, but 45,000:1 looks horrible.
I was thinking, wow really.

Well in all honesty, it is hard to say an exact cut off point, but 40,000:1 looks pretty good generally speaking.

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This is an awesome idea! I have been playing with some settings and I am not sure I am getting the best results due to, like you said, settings are quite different for projectors.

We should start a thread for just the RS/NX JVC owners that are going to use either the GTX or RTX cards for MadVR.

I nominate you....lol


Yes please do this.....This would be extremely helpful and keep traffic down in this tread & 4K HTPC.

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Wow, that's a bad one, hard to take that one seriously.

That sounds like a bum unit for sure. There are bum units in all models and series.

Difference of 40,000:1 and 80,000:1 is the same as 4000:1 to 8000:1 in general relativeness.
It is a small noticeable difference, but it's not nearly as big of a difference as the numbers appear.

That's why it always made me laugh when someone said, well I can take 60,000:1 on/off, but 45,000:1 looks horrible.
I was thinking, wow really.

Well in all honesty, it is hard to say an exact cut off point, but 40,000:1 looks pretty good generally speaking.
Trouble is, there are far to many "BUM UNITS!"
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Trouble is, there are far to many "BUM UNITS!"
Maybe so, but I guess if you get a good dealer with a good RMA process, you might be ok?

Not surprising if QC took a hit with them releasing completely different parts due to the 4k stuff.
They had to change a lot of parts all at once and were in somewhat 'untested' waters at these pricing levels for 4k.
Sure, they had 4k experience, but not in the sub-10k production arena before.

So everyone that has a good unit is lucky in here, or maybe they are just not 'unlucky'.

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Seriously? What are the units already delievered, electronic waste?

Hard to say what the story with existing units will be, but lets hope not. This was actual JVC info from them to me just to clarify.


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Trouble is, there are far to many "BUM UNITS!"

Yep enough for JVC to slow production right down again it seems..
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Yep enough for JVC to slow production right down again it seems..
Just curious, how do you know?

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really? and who is telling you these stories

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I'm hearing now that the reason we are not seeing units in our neck of the woods as yet is due to the issues reported here, which I'm told relate back to the original production delay. Sounds like a few months till they sort things out enough to get units down our way from what's been indicated.
Well we keep on hearing stories about this and that. So who is telling you these stories? Your stories sound a little fishy to me.
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Woofer are you really that bitter over a damaged projector that should have gone back to JVC for replacement? I'm not sure where all this anger is coming from. I guess my recommendation for you is to wait 6 months and see where things are at. If all of these concerns or these rumors and or issues as so bad, I suspect JVC will be replacing a lot of projectors with their 3 year warranty plus my extra 2 years for using AMEX for payment. I agree with some of the dealers that there are probably far more customers who never look a AVS forums. If they have a problem, they'd research it and find these threads. They would be reporting their issue and looking for help. But if they love their new projector, they have no reason to come here and boast about the projector. I disappeared for 5 days or so while checking the features, the settings and watching UHD movies for the first time. I just came back to see what was going on. I learned there were 10 or 15 or 20 pages of Madvr postings. Where did that come from? But whatever.

See you in six months when the dust settles.
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Well we keep on hearing stories about this and that. So who is telling you these stories? Your stories sound a little fishy to me.



Guys, seriously, FFS, there are plenty here who know how good my local JVC as well Sony top level contacts are, if you want to doubt that go right ahead.. If anything I'm sticking my neck out a bit when I share this stuff with my buddies here on the forum.


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Woofer are you really that bitter over a damaged projector that should have gone back to JVC for replacement? I'm not sure where all this anger is coming from. I guess my recommendation for you is to wait 6 months and see where things are at. If all of these concerns or these rumors and or issues as so bad, I suspect JVC will be replacing a lot of projectors with their 3 year warranty plus my extra 2 years for using AMEX for payment. I agree with some of the dealers that there are probably far more customers who never look a AVS forums. If they have a problem, they'd research it and find these threads. They would be reporting their issue and looking for help. But if they love their new projector, they have no reason to come here and boast about the projector. I disappeared for 5 days or so while checking the features, the settings and watching UHD movies for the first time. I just came back to see what was going on. I learned there were 10 or 15 or 20 pages of Madvr postings. Where did that come from? But whatever.

See you in six months when the dust settles.

Dennis, pardon my French, but WTF are you talking about? If you actually followed the new JVC series threads from the start you'd know Woofer had a loaner of a pre-production unit, so nothing for him to be 'bitter' over. More like pretty cool way back before any production units landed.. Woofer is a RS4500 owner, so it's even less concern frankly as he's not about swap over.
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sticking my neck out a bit when I share this stuff with my buddies here on the forum.





Dennis, pardon my French, but WTF are you talking about? If you actually followed the new JVC series threads from the start you'd know Woofer had a loaner of a pre-production unit, so nothing for him to be 'bitter' over. More like pretty cool way back before any production units landed.. Woofer is a RS4500 owner, so it's even less concern frankly as he's not about swap over.
what he said .....Thanks Oz....

Dennis... NOT bitter.... I am just not burying my head in the sand!

I have owned a lot of JVC PJ,s ...X5000/X7000/X7500.X9500/X9900 . currently Z1/RS4500 .

I put over 100hrs on an NX9 ( Pre Production) ...

JVC need to sort out the state of affairs with the new series ..... I know personally a local dealer in Aus that will NOT sell any more NEW series till he has assurance that the current issues are sorted...

Let the flaming begin....
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what he said .....Thanks Oz....



Dennis... NOT bitter.... I am just not burying my head in the sand!



I have owned a lot of JVC PJ,s ...X5000/X7000/X7500.X9500/X9900 . currently Z1/RS4500 .



I put over 100hrs on an NX9 ( Pre Production) ...



JVC need to sort out the state of affairs with the new series ..... I know personally a local dealer in Aus that will NOT sell any more NEW series till he has assurance that the current issues are sorted...



Let the flaming begin....
Out if interest (not trying to start an argument, just interested in the dynamics) is that a dealer who isn't buying any more units as they have personal experience of too many failures of units they're involved with, or not buying because of the volume of posts about failures?

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Out if interest (not trying to start an argument, just interested in the dynamics) is that a dealer who isn't buying any more units as they have personal experience of too many failures of units they're involved with, or not buying because of the volume of posts about failures?

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Personal experience.
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Guys, seriously, FFS, there are plenty here who know how good my local JVC as well Sony top level contacts are, if you want to doubt that go right ahead.. If anything I'm sticking my neck out a bit when I share this stuff with my buddies here on the forum.
Don't see my post as an attack on you. I know you provided some good inside information in the past that came out true in the end.

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I’ll try unplugging my HDMI cable when I get home after work. Thanks.


I unplugged the HDMI cable and cranked up the PJ. Same thing. This time an improved clocking: 6 mins and 9 secs.

Is your projector's ethernet port connected?
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