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I'm glad Arrow volunteered to be the main person to provide the essential information for the owner's thread. Not all first owners are knowledgeable or willing to devote their time to keep the thread updated.
Nice to have all the info right at the beginning of the thread, does make it neater.....

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So has JVC resolved that issue with 3rd party component?
There is no way they would release them otherwise. I would assume with all the down time they could examine even more of the unit as well, making sure all in right across the board.
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I heard in the webinar that these projectors force high-lamp mode when displaying HDR despite their tone mapping capabilities. I don't like that one bit. I have a small theater with a small 98-inch screen. I am currently using a Sony 520es in low lamp mode with an Oppo 203 taking care of HDR processing and the results are fabulous. I want he NX7 for better contrast and a much lower black floor.

What do you guys think of running the NX7 in low lamp mode and continuing to allow the Oppo to handle processing the HDR? I am afraid letting the JVC atomaticslly kick into high lamp will give me elevated blacks, defeating the point of my purchase. What say you, oh great hive mind?
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Thank you, this is helpful. I can't post photos or links now because I'm new to the forum, but if you go to this site (webprojectorcalculator.com), it runs the numbers in the various lamp modes. The catch is they don't have the NX models yet but I used the 590 which has the same lumens and contrast ratio, and I believe the same throw ratios.

Do you mind telling me about the manual iris? What does it take to adjust this?
You just go into the menu and select the Aperture ( under picture adjust - page 46 in the owners manual ) - manual aperture, then with a light meter and a 100 IRE test pattern, close down the manual iris until you hit your desired brightness in low lamp ( lamp power setting- also page 46 ). I like 18.5 foot lambert. You can then turn on the auto iris.
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I heard in the webinar that these projectors force high-lamp mode when displaying HDR despite their tone mapping capabilities. I don't like that one bit. I have a small theater with a small 98-inch screen. I am currently using a Sony 520es in low lamp mode with an Oppo 203 taking care of HDR processing and the results are fabulous. I want he NX7 for better contrast and a much lower black floor.

What do you guys think of running the NX7 in low lamp mode and continuing to allow the Oppo to handle processing the HDR? I am afraid letting the JVC atomaticslly kick into high lamp will give me elevated blacks, defeating the point of my purchase. What say you, oh great hive mind?
I'm sure you can run in low lamp. You need to calibrate one user setting for SDR and one for HDR - and you can set those up any damn way you please.
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I heard in the webinar that these projectors force high-lamp mode when displaying HDR despite their tone mapping capabilities. I don't like that one bit. I have a small theater with a small 98-inch screen. I am currently using a Sony 520es in low lamp mode with an Oppo 203 taking care of HDR processing and the results are fabulous. I want he NX7 for better contrast and a much lower black floor.

What do you guys think of running the NX7 in low lamp mode and continuing to allow the Oppo to handle processing the HDR? I am afraid letting the JVC atomaticslly kick into high lamp will give me elevated blacks, defeating the point of my purchase. What say you, oh great hive mind?
You definitely need to read more about JVC projectors. The NX7 black levels in high lamp in HDR is far superior than any native 4k projector up to the NX9, which is more than double the price
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I heard in the webinar that these projectors force high-lamp mode when displaying HDR despite their tone mapping capabilities. I don't like that one bit. I have a small theater with a small 98-inch screen. I am currently using a Sony 520es in low lamp mode with an Oppo 203 taking care of HDR processing and the results are fabulous. I want he NX7 for better contrast and a much lower black floor.

What do you guys think of running the NX7 in low lamp mode and continuing to allow the Oppo to handle processing the HDR? I am afraid letting the JVC atomaticslly kick into high lamp will give me elevated blacks, defeating the point of my purchase. What say you, oh great hive mind?
They dont *force* high lamp. They *default* to high lamp. Once you get an HDR signal you can make changes to the profile and it'll be saved. I think you can easily get away with running HDR in low lamp and upping the tone mapping target. You can do the same in the Oppo, but it (probably) won't be necessary with JVC having similar tone mapping built in.

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They dont *force* high lamp. They *default* to high lamp. Once you get an HDR signal you can make changes to the profile and it'll be saved. I think you can easily get away with running HDR in low lamp and upping the tone mapping target. You can do the same in the Oppo, but it (probably) won't be necessary with JVC having similar tone mapping built in.

I have confirmed this by digging into the manual. It turns out I can even enter in my screen size and gain!
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You just go into the menu and select the Aperture ( under picture adjust - page 46 in the owners manual ) - manual aperture, then with a light meter and a 100 IRE test pattern, close down the manual iris until you hit your desired brightness in low lamp ( lamp power setting- also page 46 ). I like 18.5 foot lambert. You can then turn on the auto iris.
Nice, thanks very much. This makes me more comfortable with getting the 50 fL out of HDR and closing the iris for SDR. I found this post around the JVC iris: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...n-writeup.html

It's from 2015, but based on the fourth picture/table down from the beginning of the post, manual iris setting 0 puts out 1300 peak lumens and manual setting -15 puts out 400 peak lumens, a difference of 50.9 fL. That was based on the conversion tab of that tool at http://www.webprojectorcalculator.com/. So if my thinking is correct, I can use a 1.3 gain screen, get up to even 65 fL and dial down the manual iris setting decreasing the fL down to 18.5 if i wanted. According to that post the contrast and black levels are better with the lowest iris setting anyway.

Am I missing anything here that you can see? Any justification for the NX7 over NX5 with this situation other than the obvious contrast advantage?
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Nice, thanks very much. This makes me more comfortable with getting the 50 fL out of HDR and closing the iris for SDR. I found this post around the JVC iris: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...n-writeup.html

It's from 2015, but based on the fourth picture/table down from the beginning of the post, manual iris setting 0 puts out 1300 peak lumens and manual setting -15 puts out 400 peak lumens, a difference of 50.9 fL. That was based on the conversion tab of that tool at http://www.webprojectorcalculator.com/. So if my thinking is correct, I can use a 1.3 gain screen, get up to even 65 fL and dial down the manual iris setting decreasing the fL down to 18.5 if i wanted. According to that post the contrast and black levels are better with the lowest iris setting anyway.

Am I missing anything here that you can see? Any justification for the NX7 over NX5 with this situation other than the obvious contrast advantage?
You're asking the wrong guy. The higher contrast alone would be enough for me to pick the RS2000 over the 1000, plus a bit more brightness, and the DCI color filter. If the RS2000 is in your budget.
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Nice, thanks very much. This makes me more comfortable with getting the 50 fL out of HDR and closing the iris for SDR. I found this post around the JVC iris: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...n-writeup.html

It's from 2015, but based on the fourth picture/table down from the beginning of the post, manual iris setting 0 puts out 1300 peak lumens and manual setting -15 puts out 400 peak lumens, a difference of 50.9 fL. That was based on the conversion tab of that tool at http://www.webprojectorcalculator.com/. So if my thinking is correct, I can use a 1.3 gain screen, get up to even 65 fL and dial down the manual iris setting decreasing the fL down to 18.5 if i wanted. According to that post the contrast and black levels are better with the lowest iris setting anyway.

Am I missing anything here that you can see? Any justification for the NX7 over NX5 with this situation other than the obvious contrast advantage?
Unless everything you watch is REC709 colourspace the N5 will come up short for the colour gamut. The N7 reaches the full P3 gamut which covers most 4K HDR content (created in P3 and distributed within REC2020).
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- Complies with the latest HDMI/HDCP 2.2 standard to enable full spec 4K signal input with 18Gbps transmission band-width (4K60P 4:4:4, 4K60P 4:2:2/36-bit, 4K24P 4:4:4/36-bit)
I don't know if this is copy and paste-age from something wot JVC writ, or just an unfortunate choice of words, but of course it doesn't comply with the latest HDMI standards (HDMI 2.1). This should really IMHO be revised to:
- Complies with the HDMI 2.0b / HDCP 2.2 standard blah blah blah.

Listing 4K60P 4:4:4 without specifying the bit depth is arguably a bit cheeky also (marketroid overload) as of course it will only be 8bit, which for most 4K sources - which are more often than not 10bit HDR these days - this would represent a downgrade in the bit depth to send chroma info that didn't exist in the stream.
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I may be able to make an official owners post for the RS3000 one week from today according to UPS.

I'll document with pictures of the unboxing if it arrives.
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I may be able to make an official owners post for the RS3000 one week from today according to UPS.

I'll document with pictures of the unboxing if it arrives.

The first owner of an RS3000/NX9 in Norway is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.

Edit: Seems that information from JVC is a little bit sketchy. New arriaval date i January 8, and that is estimated.

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I just received exact same tracking advisory from UPS.
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Booo, i don’t get my rs3000 until the 8th.


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The actual delivery date will probably be sooner (or even could be later) than the one in the email. If you click on the tracking number it will probably say: "Shipment Ready for UPS". Once UPS actually receives the package it will get updated.

In this case it looks like the dates are based on the shipper's address. But (as far as I know) the shipments are actually coming from JVC Kenwood in Long Beach, California (LA area).

Mine says 1/09, but I am actually 8 miles from the JVC Kenwood warehouse so I will be quite surprised if it takes a week to get here.

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The actual delivery date will probably be sooner (or even could be later) than the one in the email. If you click on the tracking number it will probably say: "Shipment Ready for UPS". Once UPS actually receives the package it will get updated.

In this case it looks like the dates are based on the shipper's address. But (as far as I know) the shipments are actually coming from JVC Kenwood in Long Beach, California (LA area).

Mine says 1/09, but I am actually 8 miles from the JVC Kenwood warehouse so I will be quite surprised if it takes a week to get here.
Not shipping direct from JVC.
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OK, so it's changed from what I was told earlier. Or I misunderstood.

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Are they coming from Long Beach or did they travel to AVAD first?
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Booo, i don’t get my rs3000 until the 8th.
I chose what is behind door number 2... the double box option.

Been waiting for new projector since July (before IFA), RS3000 preodered Sept. After talk of bad noises from iris movement, while rare, just wanted to be safe with longer shipping process. Been this long, can wait a week or two more, but....


It's going to be a hard week or so reading you guys' reviews of your great projectors, knowing mines on a truck, passing near my house, then circleing back again to return on another truck.
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I posted this in the anticipation thread, but I asked for an update from my dealer today and he pinged JVC and got this back as a response:

"Yes, we received our initial “very tight” allocation into Long Beach on 12/28 with 19 pcs. of the NX9. Didn’t even put a dent on the current backorders as you can imagine. These are currently going through QC in Long Beach then will begin shipping. We will be receiving updates on additional January incoming hopefully very soon.

Good news in product is beginning to flow. I will keep you updated with any new info I receive."

I bet my order is a month out still.

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Are they coming from Long Beach or did they travel to AVAD first?
AVAD has a location in Van Nuys - 54 minutes from Long Beach. So not much difference either way.
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Did not know that...thought they only had the Scottsdale location since all my stuff seems to come from there.
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