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Replacement lamp picked up Europe, Sweden. Ordered the N7 back in Sept / Okt.

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I thought the lamp promo was only in the US, not in Europe.

Can you share the URL or form to send the details?

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I apologize if my comment above led you to believe this. As Manni01 said, comments and questions from potential owners are of course welcome -- and often helpful even to those of us who already own the projector.
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I thought the lamp promo was only in the US, not in Europe.



Can you share the URL or form to send the details?



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That's the thing. I did not have to fill out any forms. Swedish distributor of the JVCs took care of everything. So check with your dealers first if you're in Europe and purchased one of these new units so that you don't miss out on anything.

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Based on posts elsewhere, they own a Sony 1080p projector and mention in the JVC anticipation thread that they purposely avoid buying the first year of next-generation products. He also states he "doesn't have an axe to grind with JVC". In my opinion, the overall tone/presentation in a number of his posts suggests otherwise (see the dozens of posts in this owner's thread and posts in the anticipation thread). And if he "cares about the AVS community" as claimed, he doesn't appear to shed much positive light on these projectors (or much else)...apparently these projectors do little well that is worth mentioning.

No product is perfect and units within any production run will have their issues (the previously mentioned JVC RS4500 comes to mind) and this forum is the place where those issues typically will be magnified to a much greater degree (fair or not). JVC has a lot invested in this line and deserves a fair opportunity to address and fix the problem in a reasonable amount of time for all parties involved...including potential buyers. So until this member buys one of these projectors, is willing to admit they own one already, or is ready to pull the trigger, their input/observations (however valid) have no place in this thread.

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I would personally like comments about quality of the new projectors, JVC roll-out etc. only from the Owners. Personally I give a rat's ass about what someone thinks about the new JVC if you dont own one or have spent considerable time with the projectors (like Arrow, MiKe, Manni, et al)

Really if you haven't spent thousands of dollars on these projectors you have no business stating your uninformed opinion.


All others should restrict their comments to helping new owners because of their experience of owning other JVC projectors
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Out of interest, what's your measured peak brightness and throw distance for your 130" (which has a gain of 1.3 if I'm not mistaken, I assume 16/9, not scope), in SDR and HDR?

It will be interesting to see if this would be enough with 30% less brightness for a unity gain screen of the same size. Of course if your screen adds gain, you can make the size bigger. Many people get away with a HP screen and a 2.4 or 2.8 gain up to 140" diag in scope, which is humongus compared to my puny one, which has a close to unity gain (Carada BW, less than 1.1 effective gain).

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• SDR | IRIS -10 | LOW LAMP | NO BT.2020 COLOR FILTER = 17.4 fL

• SDR | IRIS -10 | LOW LAMP | WITH BT.2020 COLOR FILTER = 12.2 fL

• HDR | IRIS 0 | HIGH LAMP | NO BT.2020 COLOR FILTER = 37.8 fL

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Is the NX7 or the RS2000 available to purchase yet. I called a few dealers and no one has it yet.
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Is the NX7 or the RS2000 available to purchase yet. I called a few dealers and no one has it yet.
I haven't yet heard of anyone with inventory on hand. You still need to get on a list if you want one.
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Your installer can't certify the mount. The manufacturer does that. Your installer could certify the installation, but that would just be him giving his opinion (unless he is a licensed structural engineer) and hopefully standing behind it. But I will say this, the safety factor on mounts from the manufacturer is a lot higher than 2x. I also would think that it would have to be a pretty shoddy install if the fasteners were only good for 50 pounds. Usually these mount are installed using 5/16" lag bolts that go into wood blocking or joists 1.5". One such lag bolt would be rated for 589.5 pounds pullout in southern pine. My mount has four of those lag bolts. If the mount is rated for 50 pounds and is installed properly, there is zero issue with placing 50 pounds of projector on the mount. That 50 pound rating already includes the safety factor.
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And depending in which country you live it could be a very long list !

WOW!! Thats CRAZY!!
I do have one on order..

It a good thing I never sold my RS500. I think I will keep my RS500 for native 1080P and the RS2000/NX7 for native 4K.
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Is the NX7 or the RS2000 available to purchase yet. I called a few dealers and no one has it yet.
You might wait for one, but order it before the end of April to get a free lamp.

Edit - I see you do have one on order !
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Please note that the document is for UPLIFT. Not sure if that is the same as a downward force with a constant load. Should be similar. I am more worried about the qualities of modern big box store lag bolts. Even with proper pilot size and wax or soap, beware.
Loading would be the same and every mounting plate that I have seen uses two or more bolts, so we are talking over 1,000 pounds. If you do not drill a pilot hole, you could twist off a bolt, but other than that, not an issue. If using four of these, then grade A could never be a problem even if hanging a CRT as long as the wood structure you are fastening to would support the load. If really concerned you could buy black oxide or stainless steel lag bolts.
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WOW!! Thats CRAZY!!
I do have one on order..

It a good thing I never sold my RS500. I think I will keep my RS500 for native 1080P and the RS2000/NX7 for native 4K.
Overkill?
I will preface this saying there was nothing I didn't love about my RS520's picture. However after watching Blu Rays on my NX7, I think you would be crazy to watch them on the RS500. The NX7 with the Panasonic 820 upscaling gives Blu Rays an almost 3D depth to the image the RS520 did not with this same player. Though the image shouldn't look more detailed it somehow seems to (it's not huge, but it's there).
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WOW!! Thats CRAZY!!

I do have one on order..



It a good thing I never sold my RS500. I think I will keep my RS500 for native 1080P and the RS2000/NX7 for native 4K.

Overkill?


What’s a RS500 worth these days, maybe $1.5k?? Or closer to $1k?


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Depending on bulb hours, I wouldn't be surprised to see it go into the mid-low $2k range. It's essentially the same as the RS520/RS540 and with the gouging that seems to be happening with the RS540's, used units are holding their value. The RS500 still represents one of the best 4K pictures you can find in projection.
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WOW!! Thats CRAZY!!
I do have one on order..

It a good thing I never sold my RS500. I think I will keep my RS500 for native 1080P and the RS2000/NX7 for native 4K.
Overkill?
That was my plan initially, but frankly once you move to the rs2000 you simply don't want to watch the rs500, even for 1080p: the HDMI sync times (20 secs vs 5 secs) and the picture stability on high APL content (no flickering on the rs2000) really make it hard to go back. And 1080p content upscaled with madVR (or a good UHD Bluray player such as a Panasonic) looks even better on the rs2000 than on the rs500, whether native 1080p or eshift. I've had the rs500 stacked and I haven't switched it once since I did my comparison in February. Even for 1080p content, I use the rs2000.

The only exception is if you have a source that can't upscale to 4K (say an HDTV box) and you don't have a good VP, so you're actually sending 1080p to the PJ. The internal upscaler of the new models isn't that great for 1080p content, so in that case you might get better results playing that kind of content at native 1080p or with eshift on the rs500. I'm not picky for HDTV, so I still use the rs2000 with TV, even if its internal 1080p upscaling isn't as good as the rs500.

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I haven't yet heard of anyone with inventory on hand. You still need to get on a list if you want one.
They have been available for a while, having on hand to ship out is a whole different story.
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They have been available for a while, having on hand to ship out is a whole different story.
Indeed. I have one in my room. But they are only available to people that get in line. It's going to be a while yet before you can wander into your dealer to buy one off the shelf, I fear.
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Overkill?
Nope. That's what I did; bought an RS1000 and kept my 500.
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A test of the NX-9:

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Absolutely not frowned upon, potential owners are welcome to the thread
Too late, I'm officially an owner now
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A test of the NX-9:

http://www.passionhomecinema.fr/blog...is-de-gregory/

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Unless the unit is defective, the contrast measurements are laughable (less than 9000:1 native!), as usual with this reviewer who refuses to learn how to take them. He gets more contrast on the n5 than on the n9, and he doesn’t question his method, his tools, his environment or his test unit. Very sad to see “reviewers” like this publishing such garbage unchallenged year after year... Please do not pay attention to any of the contrast measurements in this review, they are meaningless.

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Not with the projector units here



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It was probably me a few pages back mentioning the vibration. I have a 7.1 system and there is no vibration from audio at all. One person in my house is a bit of a stomper when they walk (you must know what i mean). When they go through the bedroom directly above the projector I noticed some vibration on the screen. I didn't notice it with my prior sony pj and actually a cheaper mount. I used a sliding Chief 16" joist mount this time. Everything is very tight, but maybe that two-joist mount is susceptible to this. It's not that big of a deal for me because there is not often much activity in that bedroom.

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I will preface this saying there was nothing I didn't love about my RS520's picture. However after watching Blu Rays on my NX7, I think you would be crazy to watch them on the RS500. The NX7 with the Panasonic 820 upscaling gives Blu Rays an almost 3D depth to the image the RS520 did not with this same player. Though the image shouldn't look more detailed it somehow seems to (it's not huge, but it's there).
I was attempting to catch up on this thread and update everyone on my continued enjoyment of my rs2000 paired with the excellent panny 820. The image stability improvement on this model compared to the prior gens gets me back to the "Quietness" I so enjoyed with my old LS10000. I sure had missed that and I am so glad I've gotten back to it. I've thrown a lot at this PJ too so far and everything has just looked impeccable to me.

I went from cautious optimism when I first pre-ordered this unit taking the risk of a first run under new chassis, to acute anxiety/remorseful reading of several of these "Issues" that so many posts here are pinning over, to now actually having the unit and being simply jubilant. I couldn't be happier with my decision. I now look at these complaining posts and just chuckle. Mr. Mouse's posts I simply belly laugh at. Tonight I will retire to my HT after some more yardwork and watch Infinite War for the first time on this new machine to prep for Endgame. I expect nothing less than pure amazement on the PQ and know I will get it having already run this PJ through the usual 4k/HDR test material. That DI might yellow the whites a little bit for the time being but darned if I can even notice it in real world content... flame on fellas.
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Unless the unit is defective, the contrast measurements are laughable (less than 9000:1 native!), as usual with this reviewer who refuses to learn how to take them. He gets more contrast on the n5 than on the n9, and he doesn’t question his method, his tools, his environment or his test unit. Very sad to see “reviewers” like this publishing such garbage unchallenged year after year... Please do not pay attention to any of the contrast measurements in this review, they are meaningless.
Wow. My RS2000 was calibrated today and native contrast (off the screen rather than off the lens) was measured at (EDIT: awaiting forthcoming calibration report).

The amount of disinformation put out for consumption is disheartening when it might be the information an uninformed consumer ever sees.
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I was attempting to catch up on this thread and update everyone on my continued enjoyment of my rs2000 paired with the excellent panny 820. The image stability improvement on this model compared to the prior gens gets me back to the "Quietness" I so enjoyed with my old LS10000. I sure had missed that and I am so glad I've gotten back to it. I've thrown a lot at this PJ too so far and everything has just looked impeccable to me.

I went from cautious optimism when I first pre-ordered this unit taking the risk of a first run under new chassis, to acute anxiety/remorseful reading of several of these "Issues" that so many posts here are pinning over, to now actually having the unit and being simply jubilant. I couldn't be happier with my decision. I now look at these complaining posts and just chuckle. Mr. Mouse's posts I simply belly laugh at. Tonight I will retire to my HT after some more yardwork and watch Infinite War for the first time on this new machine to prep for Endgame. I expect nothing less than pure amazement on the PQ and know I will get it having already run this PJ through the usual 4k/HDR test material. That DI might yellow the whites a little bit for the time being but darned if I can even notice it in real world content... flame on fellas.
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Hi guys. I’m considering a NX7, after a RS1, and now a Sony.
I think someone mentioned here vibrations when someone walked in the room upstairs, is this something other people have experienced?
Would the extra heaviness of this generation make this concern worse, or lesser (more damping)?

I remember that with the RS1, the lens vibration due to the subwoofer was so bad that the fix was to leave the shipping foam around the lens.
Since then I’ve moved to 2 15” subwoofers on the other side of the room, and have zero issues with the Sony, but it’s 25lbs (same as the RS1) vs 44.

Also, the original installer said he was certifying the ceiling mount for 50lbs, since seismic code required to handle double the load (25lbs).
Am I risking issues with a 44lbs projector (outside earthquakes)? I did get the “once he’s finished, you’ll be able to hang from the ceiling” line.

Thanks for any reports of lens vibration during bass-heavy scenes at high volume.
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It was probably me a few pages back mentioning the vibration. I have a 7.1 system and there is no vibration from audio at all. One person in my house is a bit of a stomper when they walk (you must know what i mean). When they go through the bedroom directly above the projector I noticed some vibration on the screen. I didn't notice it with my prior sony pj and actually a cheaper mount. I used a sliding Chief 16" joist mount this time. Everything is very tight, but maybe that two-joist mount is susceptible to this. It's not that big of a deal for me because there is not often much activity in that bedroom.
I used to have this issue with the RS1 too, but it only had manual lens adjustment. With a Sony VW95ES, RS600 and now RS3000 in the same mounting point I never experience it. The motorized mechanism keeps it locked in position.
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The Shield works great for me playing 4K YouTube, and it plays ripped 4K stuff from a USB drive perfectly and outputs Atmos audio. It's great for playing demo clips. I've never seen an error playing anything from it, just the occasional beautiful blue stripes which I think we've determined has nothing to do with the source. I don't know about the Xbox 1S, but the 1X has a nice testing feature that can tell you if your cable is okay. Everything should be a green checkbox except for Dolby Vision when connected to the projector. My original 25 ft cable seemed to work because it was displaying a picture, however the Xbox rightly pointed out that it was junk.
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OK folks, here we go... Let's call this In-Depth Investigation Round 1



I have carried out a load of testing including measurements to find out what the hell is going on, using a brand new JVC RS3000/NX9, March 2019 build, with firmware 2.04; and here's what I have discovered.



So that’s the what’s what in this regard with respect to this particular JVC RS3000/NX9 unit. Like I said, I will check out another unit and see how the performance compares and will report back my findings. I also have two shiny new JVC RS1000/N5s here as well and I will test these as well.




A quick question, so do we clamp down the IRIS to the desired settings first then we perform a calibration or can we just manually clamp down the IRIS on an already calibrated unit? Will it make a difference? I believe it will since it will cause a chain reaction to the overall white balance as we move from stage of the lamp IRIS to the next.

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A quick question, so do we clamp down the IRIS to the desired settings first then we perform a calibration or can we just manually clamp down the IRIS on an already calibrated unit? Will it make a difference? I believe it will since it will cause a chain reaction to the overall white balance as we move from stage of the lamp IRIS to the next.
As you mentioned yourself, to get the correct colour calibration you will need to use the specific manual iris setting, or more precisely, the iris range (there are four ranges).
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