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Similar phenomenon has been reported by several of us over the past couple of weeks in this thread. JVC replaced mine because of it, see my report here, with photos from others above. My replacement unit is still working well with a solid week of usage now.
I suspect the next firmware update will solve this problem.
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I also think my NX9 out of the box is amazing
Only thing my 53 X 121 inch screen, does fit my 16 X 9 at 13.5 feet
When I switch to 2.35 video i zoom out to full max.
I have a 3 inch open border around the whole screen.
Can only move projector back another 6 inches.
So either new screen or anamorphic lens??
My sony es600 had no problem filling the screen
It would have to be a horizontal expansion lens. The vertical compression lens will not give you a larger image. Other option would be a conversion lens, but 4K conversion lens is as expensive as a high end A-lens.
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Thank you!


I still have to go about setting up my RS600 for UHD/4K.


I'd bought a cable that purportedly was the "right one" and tested for longer distance transmission, but when I tried setting up my UHD player I was getting all sorts of sync problems. It was frustrating enough for me to give up at the time (especially as re-wiring for UHD is a significant undertaking in my set up, hence I don't want to f$ck around rewiring through ceilings and walls only to have introduced glitchiness in to my system).
More than half the cables out there that are reported by the manufacturer to work, do not.
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To NX7 owners, what is the optimum Lamp IRIS setting you have set to date which you find most satisfying for SDR (Rec709) color profile?

Is it -5 or -10 or perhaps any other figures?



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This question can't be answered. What is optimal for others would not apply to you, unless they had the same room, same size screen, same fabric in screen, same aspect ratio, same throw and prefered the same brightness as you.
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I had an issue similar to yours in my N9. Service did a firmware upgrade to version 2.05 that fixed it (and no you can't do it by yourself is a service operation). I'm having different issues right now, not sure if this is a software or hardware issue.
Interesting. I thought that we could do firmware updates? Maybe you mean 2.0.5 isn't available yet and service is required to get it?? Mine came with 2.0.4 but only 2.0.1 seems to be available on the jvc site for download.

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Usually when I start my system with a logitech remote I using the roku activity. Something is happening that maybe 50% of the time the AVR shows no signal input from the roku. I have to unplug and replug an HDMI cable to get it connected. I've replaced everything recently (AVR, cables, PJ) except the roku so I'm not sure if I have a compatibility issue or a timing problem on startup. Is there a recommendation for JVC startup order you folks can suggest? I seem to recall I did something like this for my sony projector but it was so long ago I can't remember. I think I added delay in the startup but I can't recall where. I've tried pj first and pj last but it makes no difference.

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More than half the cables out there that are reported by the manufacturer to work, do not.

Thanks Mike.


I bought my cable quite a while back when everyone was testing UHD cables. I was headed for the Celerity cable which seemed to be the popular one, when at the last minute info arose that the Celerity wasn't as reliable and in fact the RUIPRO had been tested as actually working for 50 foot lengths. So I switched to the RUIPRO. But, things were still glitchy. Gotta figure that out.




Has any new long-length cable (e.g. 50 feet) come to the forefront that seems to work reliably?
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It seems to be using high lamp mode, as any HDR material makes the fan kick into high.
Does this mean that the Low Lamp setting only applies to SDR, and that HDR always uses High Lamp (like 3D mode on previous pjs)?
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Has anybody here used the PXLDRIVE device to avoid having to replace an older passive HDMI cable? I have a 30 feet run and would like to avoid having to run new cables.
The mention of the PXLDRIVE in this review is actually what made me jump in.
If you look at the white paper from their web site, they claim to have a much better design compared to other boosters (like the Gigabit Accelerator, I suppose) - loss detection, full re-clocking past EQ to remove both existing and EQ-induced jitter.

I have a cable that’s at the very end of their mentioned uncorrected passive 18 Gps support range (12 m/22 AWG), but it was listed by the manufacturer as supporting 10.2 Gbps (that was before HDMI 2.0 existed).
So according to the test report in the white paper, other accelerators wouldn’t help my cable, because it’s not lossy enough, so they would apply too much gain. A thinner cable would actually perform better when boosted.
Their solution claims to be one-size-fits-all.
They were announced at Cedia 2016 and their booster is THX-certified for cables, I guess that’s something (they list the THX certification tests in the white paper).

Anyway, I bought a PIXLDRIVE, and we’ll see.
I almost bought a Sony projector that only supported 10.2 Gbps, so if I only get that, it’s not the end of the world, and I still have other options.

The link to this product is under the video on YouTube.

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Has any new long-length cable (e.g. 50 feet) come to the forefront that seems to work reliably?
Coincidence, I just mentioned the PIXLDRIVE booster, and the company that makes them also sells two kinds of cables:
- a hybrid fiber/copper design up to 50m (!)
- a bundle of cables and PIXLGEN (10 and 15m) that is “guaranteed” to support the future HDMI 2.1 8K/48Gbps standard by replacing the booster with the future version.

I have no idea what they’re worth, but they also have PDF documentation (along with a blog with more info), so perhaps it’s worth a look.
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I'm thinking of replacing my Sony 4k player with the Panny 820 everyone talks about here.

Can someone tell me, if there is no metadata on an HDR disc, does the Panasonic have something to at least rough out a better image? Is that what the optimizer does?

I'm still trying to figure out a good solution for when the NX7 can't auto tone map.
I can tell you what the UB820 outputs but can't tell you how it will look. With the UB820 set to HDR mode, the Optimizer turned ON, and HDR Display Type set to the 500 nit Projector setting:

Terminator 2 MaxDML=0, MaxCLL=0 and MaxFall=0
UB820 outputs MaxDML=500 MaxCLL=500 and MaxFall=0

Red Sparrow MaxDML=1000, MaxCLL=0 and MaxFall=0
UB820 outputs MaxDML=500 MaxCLL=500 and MaxFall=0

Sicario MaxDML=4000, MaxCLL=0 and MaxFall=0
UB820 outputs MaxDML=500 MaxCLL=500 and MaxFall=0

In each case the JVC will see 500 nit content.

I can't say for certain but I believe that:

UB820 will tone map Terminator 2 to 500 nits, assuming the content highlights reach 1000 nits.
UB820 will tone map Red Sparrow to 500 nits, assuming the content highlights reach 1000 nits.
UB820 will tone map Sicario to 500 nits, assuming the content highlights reach 4000 nits.
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Interesting. I thought that we could do firmware updates? Maybe you mean 2.0.5 isn't available yet and service is required to get it?? Mine came with 2.0.4 but only 2.0.1 seems to be available on the jvc site for download.

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They tell me that it was a "deeper" upgrade involving flash of the motherboard memory, not a simple firmware update. In fact, after the update all my settings were gone i've had to start all over again.
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While using the ‘zoom’ function, i see a green line at the bottom and heavy purple fringing on the side. Is this normal ?
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Similar phenomenon has been reported by several of us over the past couple of weeks in this thread. JVC replaced mine because of it, see my report here, with photos from others above. My replacement unit is still working well with a solid week of usage now.
It seems that the random phenomenon of the blue/black vertical lines is an issue related to Low Latency/CMD/Motion enhance when vieving high contrast patterns like bright white letters appearing on a black background (end titles of a movie is the best example). With everything on OFF it doesn't happen but with Low Latency ON or Motion Enhance on low it does. Can someone confirm this?

And btw WHY one should use Low Latency to watch a movie? And Motion enhance in my setup doesn't seems to make some difference if switched off or low/high (apart for the random issue i've had).
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While watching Demo of The Art of Flight SDR i get this crap........Had to power cycle my projector to get rid of this crap..Wow..Cmon JVC.
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While watching Demo of The Art of Flight SDR i get this crap........Had to power cycle my projector to get rid of this crap..Wow..Cmon JVC.
This is bordering on .... "Insane"
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Thanks Mike.


I bought my cable quite a while back when everyone was testing UHD cables. I was headed for the Celerity cable which seemed to be the popular one, when at the last minute info arose that the Celerity wasn't as reliable and in fact the RUIPRO had been tested as actually working for 50 foot lengths. So I switched to the RUIPRO. But, things were still glitchy. Gotta figure that out.




Has any new long-length cable (e.g. 50 feet) come to the forefront that seems to work reliably?
RUIPRO should work. What about your other HDMI cables?
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Does this mean that the Low Lamp setting only applies to SDR, and that HDR always uses High Lamp (like 3D mode on previous pjs)?
Depends on how much light is needed for your setup. Most will run high lamp for HDR, but some people do run low lamp for HDR.
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Wow that expansive in the US?


Most of the better calibrators will spend 8-10 hours working on your projector. Pricing is very reasonable and well worth it IMO.


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How long does your projector take to turn on? I timed mine and it takes 3 minutes exactly, which seems crazy. Also, I have a trigger to lower my screen when the projector starts to draw power, and that takes 17 seconds, which is also annoying.
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My RS1000 takes 40 seconds or so, I start up using my Harmony remote and I place a 30 second delay before opening Kodi on my HTPC. The projector comes on 10-15 seconds after that so somewhere in the 40-45 second range.
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My RS1000 takes 40 seconds or so, I start up using my Harmony remote and I place a 30 second delay before opening Kodi on my HTPC. The projector comes on 10-15 seconds after that so somewhere in the 40-45 second range.
Wow, that’s waaay faster than my RS2000! What firmware are you on? I upgraded mine to the latest. I wonder what else the difference could be. Are you using high lamp mode? I am.
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I haven't upgraded yet, plan to do so when I run my autocal, which I keep putting off. I am currently running 1.19. So I did a few tests, all of these are timed from hitting the on button until I see the blue screen (no content, HDMI handshake or anything), ended up being a little longer than I thought...

Low lamp - 54 seconds

(made sure to wait for the unit to go completely off/fans off in between testing)

High Lamp - 54 seconds

So for me, no difference in high or low lamp.
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Haven’t fully installed and gotten my NX9 set up yet, as I’m working way too many hours. But some random thoughts so far:

1. Flawless. So far absolutely no flaws. No blobs, purple fringes, nothing. Just beautiful. I wish I had time to watch some movies I’ve collected that I haven’t watched yet!
Oh yes, certainly a great projector for the price especially when you consider how good these are compared to the laser units....What was the first movie you watched?
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Most of the better calibrators will spend 8-10 hours working on your projector. Pricing is very reasonable and well worth it IMO.
I'm a bit new to this, so let me preface this response by saying "if I understand this right..."

I think time spent often depends on how many calibrations a customer wants/needs and maybe just how much tinkering the customer wants to get things as close to perfect as possible (grayscale/color errors come to mind, but other factors may come into play). I believe the projector sample will play a part in this equation as well (whether beneficial or detrimental to the time required).

Still, four calibrations would be needed if a customer had a scope screen (SDR and HDR) but also wanted a calibration for 16:9 (masked) on the same screen (SDR and HDR again) and that could raise the amount of time needed to 8-ish hours with a good projector sample. Kris Deering calibrated my RS2000 this week and was here four hours for one SDR calibration and one HDR calibration on my 16:9 screen. All grayscale/color delta errors were less than 3, the threshold of perceptibility of such errors (many were less than 2). I think Kris had a good sample to work with in our projector.

Considering the financial commitment toward our projector and screen, I believe calibration was a worthwhile investment for us. YMMV.

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Haven’t fully installed and gotten my NX9 set up yet, as I’m working way too many hours.

But it’s gorgeous.
I saw the RS3000 (NX9) in action yesterday--very impressive. Enjoy yours!

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While watching Demo of The Art of Flight SDR i get this crap........Had to power cycle my projector to get rid of this crap..Wow..Cmon JVC.
What firmware version do you have? Do you had low latency and/or motion enhance enabled? It seems there is a bug related to low latency/motion enhance when an high contrast image suddenly appear on screen.
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It seems that the random phenomenon of the blue/black vertical lines is an issue related to Low Latency/CMD/Motion enhance when vieving high contrast patterns like bright white letters appearing on a black background (end titles of a movie is the best example). With everything on OFF it doesn't happen but with Low Latency ON or Motion Enhance on low it does. Can someone confirm this?
With my first RS1000, the blue vertical stripes appeared even when CMD and Motion Enhance were off. I hadn't turned on Low Latency. Most frequently occurred with white-on-black content like end credits.

FWIW, both my original and replacement RS1000 showed having firmware version 2.04 (and take ~40 seconds from turning on to the "D-ILA" logo appearing).
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Most of the better calibrators will spend 8-10 hours working on your projector. Pricing is very reasonable and well worth it IMO.


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To NX7 owners, what is the optimum Lamp IRIS setting you have set to date which you find most satisfying for SDR (Rec709) color profile?

Is it -5 or -10 or perhaps any other figures?



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It’s too dependent on room, screen size, gain, placement, lamp output ... that is why you need to calibrate or at least adjust some basic settings using a light meter to get 14-16 FL off your setup


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