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Just to clarify your setup, the NX7 is plugged into the main HDMI/ARC/4K HDR output? Does your HDMI cable have directionality? Some have a source end and a display end.
You might have hit on it. The HDMI cable is a 30 ft run with directionality. Maybe that is it. Going to try a nondirectional long cable I have.

If this is the issue, why is everything but the directv boxes working?
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You might have hit on it. The HDMI cable is a 30 ft run with directionality. Maybe that is it. Going to try a nondirectional long cable I have.

If this is the issue, why is everything but the directv boxes working?
Nope. Nondirectional HDMI cable has same issue.
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Ran into another issue that at least tangentially involves the NX7.


Have Pioneer Elite VSX-LX503 that is a couple months old. Have Xbox one x, ps4, apple tv and panny UB820 connected to the back HDMI ports. Also have 2 DirecTV boxes connected via HDMI to the back ports. Was feeding a JVC RS57 front projector via HDMI from the pioneer receiver. All cables are new and certified 4K. Everything working perfectly.

Replaced my RS57 with the NX7. Just a matter of taking down old projector, mounting new projector and plugging in HDMI cable. Or so I thought.

Everything working fine EXCEPT no sound from EITHER DirecTV boxes. Picture is fine but no sound. Tested the DTV boxes with same cables on another TV. Good picture and sound. Tried every single input on the back of the receiver with both DTV boxes with same result...good picture, no sound. Everything else (apple tv, ps4, panny player and xbox) all have normal picture and sound from every HDMI port on the back. No sound from either DTV box from ANY of the back HDMI ports. If I take the HDMI running from the pioneer receiver out of the NX7 and plug it into any other HDTV including the RS57, automatically get sound from all the theater speakers. Plug it back into the NX7, no sound.


Interestingly when the cable from the receiver is plugged into any other HDTV and there is sound, the receiver says it is getting 5.1 DD from the DTV boxes. When it is plugged into the NX7 and there is no sound the receiver says it is getting ANALOG signal.


Finally hooked up a couple of optical cables and got sound via optical and picture via hdmi.


Obviously there is something in the NX7 that is preventing the receiver from receiving the digital audio signal from the DirecTV boxes. Can't figure it out.
Your post is interesting, but your conclusion is flawed. The NX7 is a display only device and has no sound capabilities. It is up to your receiver to handle this situation. The problem is in your receiver in how it is detecting the projector and its capabilities, most likely.

Does the behavior change if you force the output to 1080p from the DTV devices or in the receiver?

Edit: also I'd poke around the DTV inputs and make sure all ARC (audio return channel) features are turned off. Projectors don't support this feature.

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Nope. Nondirectional HDMI cable has same issue.
Too bad that didn't work.

30' is a pretty long run; maybe try testing with a shorter cable to see if the length is prohibiting the HDCP handshake between the AVR and the NX7. Different chipsets might have different tolerances for long runs.

Does your 30' cable have ferrite cores? If not, Monoprice sells just ferrite cores. No guarantee that will fix it, but I always prefer overkill at every link in the signal chain. It only takes one weak link to make the whole setup fail. That's why I went with 48 Gbps rather than 18 Gbps cables.

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But the DI on my N7 is not working as designed. It is, most of the time, but this clamping down is something else happening. I am very happy with the DI function, when it works. Apart from the yellowing that is [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG] But hopefully that specific issue is fw fixable.
Is this happening on HDR and SDR material?

Hopefully you get it all sorted out but it sounds exactly like what I was experiencing..
I am also experiencing this exact thing, although I get a yellow pumping after a bright to dark scene. I've sent videos to JVC,
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...OB?usp=sharing
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For what it is worth, shipping location and bulb availability seem to be the key factors for time it takes to receive a bulb.

I sent in my paperwork on February 8th. I sent it certified USPS mail and watched the tracking. It took nearly 4 weeks for my form to reach JVC in NJ from Durango. Pretty ridiculous. Anyway I just got my free bulb yesterday April 29th. That makes 11 & 1/2 weeks. I wasn't in a rush as I won't need to use the new bulb for awhile but it is good to have a free spare. Thanks JVC.
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The yellowing issue seems to be there in every unit when the DI is on ? For me it’s very evident with the subtitles turning mildly yellow. In my case, while using the shield, it’s only evident while watching the subtitles and does not seem to be visible in the scenes but the minute I go back to the main menu, there is a yellow tint on the entire image. No yellowing however in Auto 1 mode.
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Any details for N5 vs N7 for contrast and black levels floating around that i have missed?
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What firmware version do you have? Do you had low latency and/or motion enhance enabled? It seems there is a bug related to low latency/motion enhance when an high contrast image suddenly appear on screen.
I'm on firmware 2.01, i was using CMD on high.

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Thanks David. I just found out that I do have good cables that support bt.2020. Problem seems to be the receiver (Marantz 7702) which has only 4K and no HDR support. Will be replacing it in two days.

On the other hand, this has been eating me for a while now. Dark scenes(full HD) are extremely dark when watching with the Shield, looks like it’s losing a lot of highlights. Using the rs2000. I just watched the 3rd episode of Game of Thrones S08 and the dark scenes are extremely dark. I know the episode was intentionally shot that way but something seems off.
Post your PJ color profile selections menus.

Also the info tab when the content is running.
Will post it when i go through the content again. But if i remember right, color profile is bt.709 at 6500k. Iris at auto 2 clamped at -2.
Content info was 4k 59.xx p 8 bit.
1080 24p when played through 1080p setting.
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I am also experiencing this exact thing, although I get a yellow pumping after a bright to dark scene. I've sent videos to JVC,

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...OB?usp=sharing


If it’s HDR content try using BT2020 color profile. There is no yellowing in that profile


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My dealer called me today to tell me my NX7 and Stewart StudioTek 130 scope screen have arrived

I’m in Australia. Another forum member received there projector this week too.

At my request the dealer will check the projector for me before it is installed. Here is a list I’ve sent to check. Have I missed anything?

Ensure no purple bar on the picture
e.g. https://photos.smugmug.com/JVC-RS200...HOTO%201-L.jpg

Ensure no blue bars on the picture
e.g. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...0&d=1555936711

Ensure no green border around the edges of the picture e.g. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...19b6298f14.jpg

Ensure no blue bars when viewing end of movie credits e.g. Aquaman https://postimg.cc/z3pgK5tz

Ensure no purple ring on the picture
e.g. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...0&d=1550175431

Ensure no loud IRIS noise when DI is in use

Check version of Firmware installed? Latest is 2.05

Once the projector has warmed up for an hour or so, check for convergence - From viewing distance the grid should be white and sharp






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Have I missed anything?
I would let him check uniformity of every primary color, secondary color, black and white with iris open and closed.

If he can take measurements then I would also let him check gamut coverages.

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Does anyone know if the Panasonic UB9000's exclusive "High Luminance Projector" (500-nit) mode offers any advantage versus the UB820's basic 350-nit mode for use with an NX-7?

I'm trying to decide between the UB820 and UB9000.

In case it matters, I'm using a 115" diagonal 1.0 gain screen, the projector will be mounted at 13 ft, and the main seating distance is 8.5 ft. My NX7 has arrived and is still in its box.

Thanks for any help!
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My dealer called me today to tell me my NX7 and Stewart StudioTek 130 scope screen have arrived

I’m in Australia. Another forum member received there projector this week too.

At my request the dealer will check the projector for me before it is installed. Here is a list I’ve sent to check. Have I missed anything?

Ensure no purple bar on the picture
e.g. https://photos.smugmug.com/JVC-RS200...HOTO%201-L.jpg

Ensure no blue bars on the picture
e.g. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...0&d=1555936711

Ensure no green border around the edges of the picture e.g. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...19b6298f14.jpg

Ensure no blue bars when viewing end of movie credits e.g. Aquaman https://postimg.cc/z3pgK5tz

Ensure no purple ring on the picture
e.g. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...0&d=1550175431

Ensure no loud IRIS noise when DI is in use

Check version of Firmware installed? Latest is 2.05

Once the projector has warmed up for an hour or so, check for convergence - From viewing distance the grid should be white and sharp






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I would let him check uniformity of every primary color, secondary color, black and white with iris open and closed.

If he can take measurements then I would also let him check gamut coverages.
This all seems a bit much for a dealer to check just to make sure a projector is ready for pick up. Most this can be checked by the customer once picked up.

I'd say check no purple, blue bars, no green bars. No purple ring, no super loud auto dynamic iris. Then that's about it. To be honest, focus and convergence will wander the first few days anyway and will settle in after.
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May I inquire whether it only happen to one particular source? Say Oppo player (since the second image depicted shows the typical Oppo wallpaper) only? Or it happens with different sources as well? Have you disable all forms of post processing features like CMD, latency mode etc?


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It happen with all kind of sources and so far it happened with low latency on motion enhance low as well with everything off. It happens most of the times at cold boot, in 5-10 minutes. After the reboot it may not happen again for hours. It is absolutely random and not source or special functions related.
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It happen with all kind of sources and so far it happened with low latency on motion enhance low as well with everything off. It happens most of the times at cold boot, in 5-10 minutes. After the reboot it may not happen again for hours. It is absolutely random and not source or special functions related.

It happened to me twice when using nividia shield TV around 60hrs and now I’m at 264hrs and so far it never happen again (cross my fingers). It never happen on other sources.

An upgrade in recent firmware for the nvidia shield seems to solve it.

Oh yeah, I did change the HDMI cable to fibre optics but I doubt this I has any effect.


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This all seems a bit much for a dealer to check just to make sure a projector is ready for pick up. Most this can be checked by the customer once picked up.
Yes, it seems much. But from personal experience you can't be careful enough in the current situation. Don't forget, @Dandlj doesn't live in the US where you can easily get rid of a unit you are not satisfied with and find yourself at the mercy of a service that decides what's whithin specs and what's not.
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It happened to me twice when using nividia shield TV around 60hrs and now I’m at 264hrs and so far it never happen again (cross my fingers). It never happen on other sources.

An upgrade in recent firmware for the nvidia shield seems to solve it.

Oh yeah, I did change the HDMI cable to fibre optics but I doubt this I has any effect.


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I doubt it is source related: when it happen it stay even if you switch sources, even if you switch to hdmi2 input that has no cable attached. For sure there's something who triggers this thing but the point is: software or hardware related? If it's hardware it can happen anytime with no logic if it's software/firmware there's something who triggers it but i can't understand what.
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Yes, it seems much. But from personal experience you can't be careful enough in the current situation. Don't forget, @Dandlj doesn't live in the US where you can easily get rid of a unit you are not satisfied with and find yourself at the mercy of a service that decides what's whithin specs and what's not.


Correct. Anything that is found after it leaves the dealer has to be done through warranty.


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Where can I download v2.05 ? i’m currently at 2.01. I don’t have an ethernet connect to my projector.
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Where can I download v2.05 ? i’m currently at 2.01. I don’t have an ethernet connect to my projector.


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Does anyone know if the Panasonic UB9000's exclusive "High Luminance Projector" (500-nit) mode offers any advantage versus the UB820's basic 350-nit mode for use with an NX-7?

I'm trying to decide between the UB820 and UB9000.

In case it matters, I'm using a 115" diagonal 1.0 gain screen, the projector will be mounted at 13 ft, and the main seating distance is 8.5 ft. My NX7 has arrived and is still in its box.

Thanks for any help!
Actually, the UB820's "Basic Luminance LCD & Projector" is the 500-nit mode, corresponding to the "High" luminance mode on the UB9000. The UB9000 also has the "Basic" luminance mode of 350 nits, which the UB820 doesn't have. Pretty poor use of terminology, obviously.

Theoretically, the 350 nit mode would be more appropriate to these JVC Projectors, but there are plenty of people using the 500 nit mode of the UB820 and like it just fine. Perhaps ask in the UB9000 thread, as only uB9000 owners would be in a position to make direct comparisons.

Whether that's worth doubling the price of an already somewhat expensive player is a subjective call.
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Do you live a long way from the dealer? I think I'd be wanting to go there and check the issues myself to be honest, before taking it away with me.
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Correct. Anything that is found after it leaves the dealer has to be done through warranty.


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Ya its same here in USA btw. We cant just return a projector. The difference is our dealers are helpful for exchange and we get advanced replacement not something sitting in a repair center. I think if you were concerned you should go to the dealer and check this stuff yourself not just have him do it all.

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It happened to me twice when using nividia shield TV around 60hrs and now I’m at 264hrs and so far it never happen again (cross my fingers). It never happen on other sources.

An upgrade in recent firmware for the nvidia shield seems to solve it.

Oh yeah, I did change the HDMI cable to fibre optics but I doubt this I has any effect.


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Actually i was using my nvidia shield also when it happen to me but i was using the new firmware from nvidia shield & that was last Sunday 28th of April unless nvidia has sent another update since that short period of time.

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100's of RS2000/NX7's have shipped in the US.
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Soooo, Mr Deering calibrated my projector RS2000 yesterday. Let me start with this. That dude knows his stuff end of subject. People questioning his knowledge flat out do not know what they are talking about! He is worth every penny and trust me he is not cheap .

I will post some post calibration information later but let me sum up a few things.

1) It seemed to me that Kris was a little surprised at how good of a sample I got. He has done a few of these and he did comment that it was a real good one.
2) I followed a bunch of setting etc on here and let me say I had some things not correct. When I get back from traveling I am going to take a picture of all the settings so if I screw them up I can go back. Those setting were both on the RS2000, ATV and Panni 820 that needed adjustment.
3) I think I need to send it back because I only hit 98.76% of P3 color with 1.3 DE Errors. I want 100% ok just kidding. This thing tracked exceptional.
4) I thought uniformity was good but Kris showed me the right way to do it and made it even better. Concentrate on the center of screen and the rest should be ok. Also Focus, using a single pixel pattern to focus.
5) DCR Lens throws in some things that I need to bring up in that thread. Picture is great but it is throwing in some weird thing when I throw up a square pattern
6) Brightness does equate to good HDR! Actually he dialed back the brightness to get to 30FL and gave more contrast.
7) Know your calibrator. Be sure they know what they are talking about. Be in the same room as them and be sure to ask questions. You are paying for it.

Again thanks Kris and great job.

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