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post #10801 of 12825 Old 05-01-2019, 07:51 AM
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Does anyone know if the Panasonic UB9000's exclusive "High Luminance Projector" (500-nit) mode offers any advantage versus the UB820's basic 350-nit mode for use with an NX-7?

I'm trying to decide between the UB820 and UB9000.

In case it matters, I'm using a 115" diagonal 1.0 gain screen, the projector will be mounted at 13 ft, and the main seating distance is 8.5 ft. My NX7 has arrived and is still in its box.

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Quick question on Gamma selection while watching HDR content through Shield or Apple TV

Does one HAVE to select HDR(PQ) or should one select 2.4 or 2.2?

I guess the benefit of HDR (PQ) is that it enables Auto Tone Mapping, but for some reason when using 2.4 or 2.2 and dialiing up the picture tone adds more 'pop' to the image. Albeit at the loss of tone mapping.


For movie playback using HTPC - madVR i always use 2.4 and let madVR do the dynamic tone mapping.


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I just got an email notification from UPS that my free lamp from JVC will be delivered tomorrow.
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I just got an email notification from UPS that my free lamp from JVC will be delivered tomorrow.
Yea I got mine yesterday. Sent the form on April 9th.
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Quick question on Gamma selection while watching HDR content through Shield or Apple TV

Does one HAVE to select HDR(PQ) or should one select 2.4 or 2.2?

I guess the benefit of HDR (PQ) is that it enables Auto Tone Mapping, but for some reason when using 2.4 or 2.2 and dialiing up the picture tone adds more 'pop' to the image. Albeit at the loss of tone mapping.


For movie playback using HTPC - madVR i always use 2.4 and let madVR do the dynamic tone mapping.


Any thoughts?
You should be adjusting the overall mapping under HDRPQ with a known good title to get overall balance set. That should match the pop with other gamma modes and allow auto mapping to work.

Granted with MadVR mapping you don't necessarily need to worry about it.

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Yea I got mine yesterday. Sent the form on April 9th.

You are lucky, in my region we dont get no free lamp...
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100's of RS2000/NX7's have shipped in the US.
I live in the UK and ordered an N7 in mid September. There was a small consignment (5 or 6?) in late February or so. Nothing since. JVC UK have no clue when there will be more.

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Yea I got mine yesterday. Sent the form on April 9th.
I believe I sent my form in on March 18th, just after I received my replacement NX7 (on the 15th). So it looks like you got yours shipped quite a bit faster than I did. Not that it really matters, just so long as I get it before I need it it's not a problem.

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My dealer called me today to tell me my NX7 and Stewart StudioTek 130 scope screen have arrived
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Yes, it seems much. But from personal experience you can't be careful enough in the current situation. Don't forget, @Dandlj doesn't live in the US where you can easily get rid of a unit you are not satisfied with and find yourself at the mercy of a service that decides what's whithin specs and what's not.
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Ya its same here in USA btw. We cant just return a projector. The difference is our dealers are helpful for exchange and we get advanced replacement not something sitting in a repair center. I think if you were concerned you should go to the dealer and check this stuff yourself not just have him do it all.
We do shave nice warranty laws here in the US, thank goodness for the www.ftc.gov protecting consumer's rights.
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Your post is interesting, but your conclusion is flawed. The NX7 is a display only device and has no sound capabilities. It is up to your receiver to handle this situation. The problem is in your receiver in how it is detecting the projector and its capabilities, most likely.

Does the behavior change if you force the output to 1080p from the DTV devices or in the receiver?

Edit: also I'd poke around the DTV inputs and make sure all ARC (audio return channel) features are turned off. Projectors don't support this feature.

Wasn't suggesting anything wrong with the NX7, although it is definitely involved in the issue as same problem not seen with any other display device. That is what was so confounding to me is why a projector would keep the AVR from outputting the sound to the connected speakers.

Talked with pioneer support yesterday and they had no great ideas other than there is some setting in the DTV box or in the projector that is preventing the AVR from detecting the digital sound signal. Suggested possibly an EDID issue. What does the NX7 EDID a/b option do ?

These DTV boxes are at least 8 years old. Only sound options is to turn dolby digital on or off (makes no diff in issue). They also output an 8 bit RGB signal which I though was strange. Having a little trouble finding the best color profile to use on the NX7 with these boxes.

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Wasn't suggesting anything wrong with the NX7, although it is definitely involved in the issue as same problem not seen with any other display device. That is what was so confounding to me is why a projector would keep the AVR from outputting the sound to the connected speakers.

Talked with pioneer support yesterday and they had no great ideas other than there is some setting in the DTV box or in the projector that is preventing the AVR from detecting the digital sound signal. Suggested possibly an EDID issue. What does the NX7 EDID a/b option do ?

These DTV boxes are at least 8 years old. Only sound options is to turn dolby digital on or off (makes no diff in issue). They also output an 8 bit RGB signal which I though was strange. Having a little trouble finding the best color profile to use on the NX7 with these boxes.
Are the other display devices full 18Gbps on the HDMI?
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Are the other display devices full 18Gbps on the HDMI?
I assume yes.
Pioneer Elite VSX-LX503 is full 4K and HDR ready. Came out in 2018.
NX7 just came out.
Brand new 18 Gbps HDMI cables, new from monoprice with all components. Same issue with both the directional HDMI cable from pioneer to JVC and with a nondirectional HDMI cable.

I am usually pretty good with this stuff, but I am stuck. Literally take the HDMI cable from the pioneer AVR and plug it into a 10 year old sanyo tv...sound from all the theater speakers. Take it out of the sanyo and plug the HDMI into the NX7...silence.

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I assume yes.
Pioneer Elite VSX-LX503 is full 4K and HDR ready. Came out in 2018.
NX7 just came out.
Brand new 18 Gbps HDMI cables, new from monoprice with all components. Same issue with both the directional HDMI cable from pioneer to JVC and with a nondirectional HDMI cable.

I am usually pretty good with this stuff, but I am stuck. Literally take the HDMI cable from the pioneer AVR and plug it into a 10 year old sanyo tv...sound from all the theater speakers. Take it out of the sanyo and plug the HDMI into the NX7...silence.
As others have mentioned the receiver must think it has to pass audio to the NX7 for some reason (and the NX7 does nothing with audio). You'll have to dig to find whatever setting defeats this. Probably something to do with ARC.

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I do not know about Europe, but JVC USA is doing a good job standing behind their product to make things right for consumer here, that have a problem. Their slow roll out sucks, but they are taking care of customers.

I do not doubt JVC USA. I envy the services, prices and promotions provided to US customers. But at the end of the day they too have to deal with problems of an immature and poorly assembled product. If I recall JVC announced on the 20th of December that the production problem was resolved. It would make sense to have an extra couple of months delay on fulfilling pre orders. We are now 5 months into 2019.

I would never have imagined that I would need to have an in with JVC to get my unit after a decent time. And then a good percentage of European Consumers that got their few rs3000/nx9 units are struggling with problems. I have counted 3 faulty units so far in this forum! And there shouldn' t be more than 10 units delivered in Europe so far. Perhaps Arrow can help with some numbers.

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No stock no. A lot of pre orders have not been fulfilled yet. Mine dates since September.
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Soooo, Mr Deering calibrated my projector RS2000 yesterday. Let me start with this. That dude knows his stuff end of subject. People questioning his knowledge flat out do not know what they are talking about! He is worth every penny and trust me he is not cheap .

I will post some post calibration information later but let me sum up a few things.

1) It seemed to me that Kris was a little surprised at how good of a sample I got. He has done a few of these and he did comment that it was a real good one.
2) I followed a bunch of setting etc on here and let me say I had some things not correct. When I get back from traveling I am going to take a picture of all the settings so if I screw them up I can go back. Those setting were both on the RS2000, ATV and Panni 820 that needed adjustment.
3) I think I need to send it back because I only hit 98.76% of P3 color with 1.3 DE Errors. I want 100% ok just kidding. This thing tracked exceptional.
4) I thought uniformity was good but Kris showed me the right way to do it and made it even better. Concentrate on the center of screen and the rest should be ok. Also Focus, using a single pixel pattern to focus.
5) DCR Lens throws in some things that I need to bring up in that thread. Picture is great but it is throwing in some weird thing when I throw up a square pattern
6) Brightness does equate to good HDR! Actually he dialed back the brightness to get to 30FL and gave more contrast.
7) Know your calibrator. Be sure they know what they are talking about. Be in the same room as them and be sure to ask questions. You are paying for it.

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No. CEC is turned off. What model directv boxes do you have? These are HR24. Old boxes with multiswitches. Not genie.
I have the genie version. Im out of ideas. Maybe its some ARC setting in your AVR? You could also experiment with changing edid on your projector. Hopefully youll find a combination that works!

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No. CEC is turned off. What model directv boxes do you have? These are HR24. Old boxes with multiswitches. Not genie.
My guess would be an hdcp compatibility issue. The PJ is negotiating some copy protection with the hr24, but the receiver doesn't support what was selected. I would ask pioneer if they can get a log or something to investigate the handshake. To me it seems very likely it is their issue.

If the receiver has the ability to do any kind of image conversion or upsampling. You might try enabling that as it could cause the handshaking to change. The avr might do the pairing with the hr24 instead of the pj. This is a guess, I have no idea if that could work :-).

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Obviously there is something in the NX7 that is preventing the receiver from receiving the digital audio signal from the DirecTV boxes. Can't figure it out.
Although it will remove 4k ability, can you temporarily switch to HDMI2 on the JVC and change the JVC EDID setting for HDMI2 from A to B. That sets legacy device mode. If that works, you may be able to use a Dr HDMI between your receiver and DirecTV box to do the same thing.

BTW for DirecTV you aren't missing out on anything by using the optical connection you found to work.
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Although it will remove 4k ability, can you temporarily switch to HDMI2 on the JVC and change the JVC EDID setting for HDMI2 from A to B. That sets legacy device mode. If that works, you may be able to use a Dr HDMI between your receiver and DirecTV box to do the same thing.

BTW for DirecTV you aren't missing out on anything by using the optical connection you found to work.

Thanks for all the advice everyone. I know I'm getting DD 5.1 at best from the DTV boxes, regardless of HDMI or optical, so not too worried. Just would like to have an A-HA! moment and figure out why.
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So, this started happening with my RS2000 tonight. It's not always the same pattern of colors. Was just watching Survivor and an assortment of color bars popped up on the screen. Turned it off and turned it back on, the source was viewable for about 30 seconds before this new set of colors popped up. The menu will still work, but it won't display anything else. Even switching HDMI inputs has no effect.

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So, this started happening with my RS2000 tonight. It's not always the same pattern of colors. Was just watching Survivor and an assortment of color bars popped up on the screen. Turned it off and turned it back on, the source was viewable for about 30 seconds before this new set of colors popped up. The menu will still work, but it won't display anything else. Even switching HDMI inputs has no effect.

Try multiple sources. If on all sources and using an AVR try connecting directly from a source and bypassing the AVR. Try another HDMI cable. If all else fails, factory reset the projector and then call your dealer if it's still happening.
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Try multiple sources. If on all sources and using an AVR try connecting directly from a source and bypassing the AVR. Try another HDMI cable. If all else fails, factory reset the projector and then call your dealer if it's still happening.
Already tried multiple sources. I tried no source. I switched to HDMI 2 and nothing was plugged into it. Same problem.

I lasted about 20 minutes this time before another set of bars popped up. If I switch the picture mode, it will give me one solid color. Switching back to the picture mode it was on when the bars appeared will bring back the bars. It was a good 120 hours while it lasted. I did contact support. Really weird. I wasn't doing anything special before it started happening. It was just being fed a 1080p source using the Natural picture mode.


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Although it will remove 4k ability, can you temporarily switch to HDMI2 on the JVC and change the JVC EDID setting for HDMI2 from A to B. That sets legacy device mode. If that works, you may be able to use a Dr HDMI between your receiver and DirecTV box to do the same thing.
This is a good thought and actually isn't a bad temp solution if it works and if you were not using the second input. The avr is an observer of the handshake and since HR24 doesn't support hdcp 2.2 there will be a fallback exchange. It seems likely to me the avr gets confused by that fallback and then doesn't know how to receive the audio. Setting edid b might avoid the confusing exchange.

Or better yet - contact DTV and tell them you need an upgrade to the HR54 (which supports 4k and should report hdcp 2.2).
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Do you live a long way from the dealer? I think I'd be wanting to go there and check the issues myself to be honest, before taking it away with me.


Yep I agree. I’m going there too. The installer will then pick it up and install for me next week. Can’t wait

All issues were checked by the dealer and they said it was all ok. They’ve even contacted JVC Japan and sent them my list of issues as feedback.


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Already tried multiple sources. I tried no source. I switched to HDMI 2 and nothing was plugged into it. Same problem.

I lasted about 20 minutes this time before another set of bars popped up. If I switch the picture mode, it will give me one solid color. Switching back to the picture mode it was on when the bars appeared will bring back the bars. It was a good 120 hours while it lasted. I did contact support. Really weird. I wasn't doing anything special before it started happening. It was just being fed a 1080p source using the Natural picture mode.
The intermittent nature makes it sound like it could be a heat related hardware issue, but it could also be a firmware issue, with some kind of bug or memory corruption that causes a freeze.

Keep us posted, let us know what the problem was.

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Already tried multiple sources. I tried no source. I switched to HDMI 2 and nothing was plugged into it. Same problem.

I lasted about 20 minutes this time before another set of bars popped up. If I switch the picture mode, it will give me one solid color. Switching back to the picture mode it was on when the bars appeared will bring back the bars. It was a good 120 hours while it lasted. I did contact support. Really weird. I wasn't doing anything special before it started happening. It was just being fed a 1080p source using the Natural picture mode.


Welcome in the club of "weird things happening with my Jvc". I have the same issue, blue bars instead of green/multicolor but same beahviour. It pop out of the blue for no reason no matter what input etc. and the osd is perfect, only image is affected. Need to restart, sometimes it pops out again in a few muinutes, sometimes i don't have it for hours no matter how many "stress" tests i make. At first i've thought of an hardware defect but since it seems that more and more users are experiencing this strange behaviour i'm beginning to think of a software/firmware issue. Anyway my dealer is in contact with Jvc Japan to see if this is firmware issue or the projector needs to be replaced. I'll keep you posted on the results ... btw when there is no issue showing the image is pure perfection.
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Actually, the UB820's "Basic Luminance LCD & Projector" is the 500-nit mode, corresponding to the "High" luminance mode on the UB9000. The UB9000 also has the "Basic" luminance mode of 350 nits, which the UB820 doesn't have. Pretty poor use of terminology, obviously.

Theoretically, the 350 nit mode would be more appropriate to these JVC Projectors, but there are plenty of people using the 500 nit mode of the UB820 and like it just fine. Perhaps ask in the UB9000 thread, as only uB9000 owners would be in a position to make direct comparisons.

Whether that's worth doubling the price of an already somewhat expensive player is a subjective call.
Thanks for the info. Since the NX7 projector itself does pretty good tone mapping, I'm thinking of simply using that for the time being -- with my Xbox One X for UHD playback -- instead of buying a very expensive Panasonic UHD player for a physical media format that's slowly in decline.

That way I can save money that could be better spent on a madVR Envy standalone box when it comes out later this year. If rumors are correct, its real-time "dynamic tone mapping" will be better than the JVC or Panasonic tone mapping, and better even than the Lumagen Radiance's DTM. Additionally, the madVR Envy will be able to dynamically tone map from any source, not just the UHD player. No HTPC required! (Of course, it's all just vaporware until we can actually buy them...)
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Welcome in the club of "weird things happening with my Jvc". I have the same issue, blue bars instead of green/multicolor but same beahviour. It pop out of the blue for no reason no matter what input etc. and the osd is perfect, only image is affected. Need to restart, sometimes it pops out again in a few muinutes, sometimes i don't have it for hours no matter how many "stress" tests i make. At first i've thought of an hardware defect but since it seems that more and more users are experiencing this strange behaviour i'm beginning to think of a software/firmware issue. Anyway my dealer is in contact with Jvc Japan to see if this is firmware issue or the projector needs to be replaced. I'll keep you posted on the results ... btw when there is no issue showing the image is pure perfection.


Are you guys connecting to an Avr when this is happening? Unplug the hdmi at both ends and try connecting directly to Blu-ray your player.
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This reminds me of the "HDMI lock up issue" that the previous series had. The main difference is that the new series is still able to show the menu. And you don't have to shut down the projector blindly.
With the older series there were not always handshakes necessary to cause a lock up. I had a HDMI splitter that was able to cause lock ups within a minute if it was put somewhere in the HDMI chain. And there even was an interaction between Radiance and projector that could cause one of the devices to fail after a handshake.

Luckily I have not experienced this with my NX9 (yet).

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Are you guys connecting to an Avr when this is happening? Unplug the hdmi at both ends and try connecting directly to Blu-ray your player.
Yes i have a Marantz 8805 pre. This is one of most common pre in HT actual world, not an "esoteric" thing. I need the pre, i need his switching between sources and i need the pre OSD for setting audio. Connecting directly is something i can try but, as i've said, is not an issue that happens all the time, i can put +10hrs on the vpr with no issues at all. And when the issue happen is also on the hdmi2 input who has no connections at all.
My thought is that if it is something firmware related Jvc should tell users so that we don't have to loose our minds in endless tests. If it's broken, repair or replacement. But since this kind of issues are becoming more and more frequent in N series owners, Jvc should make a statement about this.
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