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post #11131 of 12892 Old 05-08-2019, 01:22 PM
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What? No laser models at $7k price point yet?


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I know you're joking, but JVC tends to use a chassis for a long time and this one is rather big (think cooling capacity). So my guess is that in 5 years we see a laser in this chassis. Maybe not at the NX5 price point, but certainly at the NX9 level.

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Kris Deering was out yesterday to calibrate my audio / video of my NX9, Panamorph DCR, Lumagen, Lexicon MC-10, subs, etc. He showed up at 1pm, and we were at it to well past midnight. One issue after another. Computer driver issues, software issues (with things like REW not seeing the equipment). A MiniDSP that couldn't be properly calibrated due to the previous issues mentioned. A second, different brand sub controller (brand new) not working as it should and exhibiting issues he's never seen. Electrical issues causing feedback in the system, weirdness with the preamp iOS app / settings showing they were in place - yet not, etc. He said he'd never seen so many issues before, and none of it could be tied to one thing. All equip is brand new, and most of which, he was setting up himself, or removing and setting back up to troubleshoot... It seemed like everything (except for the NX9) had issue after issue.

Finally, after hours upon hours, I think we finally got it all dialed in. He said that my NX9 had the highest native out of the box contrast he'd measured at 30k:1. One that he just configured the previous week had a native contrast of 22k:1. Somehow, I guess I lucked out a bit on the unit.

It'll take a while for me to fully learn the Lumagen. While it's mostly plug and play now, simple things will need to be setup - like programing for Simple Control's remote app system, setting up macros, etc.

However, now that its up and live, I can say that the DCR lens and Lumagen made a significant difference. I compared several scenes (for example, in Blade Runner 2049, where they're in the rain after the holographic girlfriend can move freely around), where I couldn't make out details before. In this case, before the Lumagen / DCR, I couldn't see their faces well at all, they were too dark. Now, they're incredibly clear. Other scenes, like the difficult ones commonly displayed with The Meg, the details were far more clear, zero banding issues, perfect uniformity (most of which is a testament to how great of a projector the NX9 already is), and so on. I use a Shield for 99% of my viewing, and will kick over to an Apple TV for Netflix/Amazon streaming. So, I was likely not getting the full HDR data needed for some of these movies before, and that might have played a part here. Either way, I don't have to worry about that anymore.


I'll definitely need a week to fully play with everything, and to get a full chance to experience and enjoy it all, but I can say that it's an incredible experience.
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Question: I was watching Mortal Engines - a terrible terrible movie but amazing visuals.

I noticed slight frame stuttering in some scenes and end credits . My source was setup to 23p to match the movie frameste. So I turned on the CMD and the stuttering disappears.

Now I am planning to just leave the CMD to Low. Am I doing something wrong? Will there be any negative impact to image quality?




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And only 4 months away from the releases of the new models (possibly) . . .
Yeah that's the concern. Some say new models won't arrive until fall of next year. Others think fall of this year. Some people say changes will be incremental, but incremental is actually important to me.

I'm a patient person. I wouldn't mind waiting even through the end of 2020.
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What? No laser models at $7k price point yet?


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Come on - you know you want an RS4500. It's not that much more expensive !
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Yeah that's the concern. Some say new models won't arrive until fall of next year. Others think fall of this year. Some people say changes will be incremental, but incremental is actually important to me.

I'm a patient person. I wouldn't mind waiting even through the end of 2020.
So here's why I think next year. Even a move to the NX5.5/7.5 etc will require at minimum stamping a new case. They're already at capacity, I don't see how they could accommodate even that realistically unless they flat out quit taking orders to give them time to catch up and do re-tooling. Personally I don't see them doing this as long as there is a wait list for product.

Look at the RSxxx lineup.

RSx00 - Out of the gate great capability but flawed HDR

RSx20 Rev 1 - low latency for gaming, improved HDR.

RSx40 Rev 2 - slight change to e-shift (some like it, some don't) and a slight improvement to HDR (iris functions).

None of those changes was anything more than a software change. A well setup 1st gen model will be all but indistinguishable from the last one.

What would they do to the NX lineup that would constitute a revision? Do they take people away from fixing well publicized issues to introduce something? I certainly wouldn't. Fixing the bugs and making sure the early adopters are happy and endorsing their product is far more important than reallocating engineering talent to introduce some minor differentiating software feature for a new model. If they weren't essentially selling every unit they can make, then maybe. But at this point I just don't see it.
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So... should I start to be worried that my NX7 pre-order from October is still not shipped? The situation exceeded ridiculousness several months ago and now I'm starting to get a little pissed off. I've been pretty patient until now; enjoying getting extra information about these projectors before reaching the no-cancellation point. But now WTF, JVC?
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And only 4 months away from the releases of the new models (possibly) . . .
I doubt that, but well see what happens a Cedia......

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Come on - you know you want an RS4500. It's not that much more expensive !
I would get the RS3000. To many people say it is VERY close to the RS4500.
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Hello, RS640 vs RS2000? Majority of my current content is in 720P and few 1080P. So which one will give me a better picture? My current setup is 120" screen using RS50 and I know either one will be better than what I have currently. But wondering if I am loosing something by going with RS2000 in terms of lower contrast and brightness! Has there been any comparisons between these two? And any with 720P/1080P content? I appreciate any thoughts and suggestions. Thanks.
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Hello, RS640 vs RS2000? Majority of my current content is in 720P and few 1080P. So which one will give me a better picture? My current setup is 120" screen using RS50 and I know either one will be better than what I have currently. But wondering if I am loosing something by going with RS2000 in terms of lower contrast and brightness! Has there been any comparisons between these two? And any with 720P/1080P content? I appreciate any thoughts and suggestions. Thanks.
Can you find an RS640 ?
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The best come's to those who wait they say

I doubt that, but well see what happens a Cedia......

I would get the RS3000. To many people say it is VERY close to the RS4500.
I'll stick with laser thanks. If you can add a Lumagen, the HDR tone mapping is even better.
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Can you please explain a bit more about how you are "calibrating" these DV sources? What is your test pattern content? How are you measuring this "calibration"?

Calibrating the Display....not the source. and as stated elsewhere, nothing is consistent across content / source.

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I contacted JVC about my issue as I reported it last week to them and they said they will email me the firmware sometime today. We will see if that actually happens.
If you have an issue, JVC will work with you to get it fixed. I was only referring to people that do not have an issue and just wanting 2.05.
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You will see it when you see it. I wouldn’t go about looking for it. It will ruin Auto Iris for you till JVC gives a fix.

If you can’t notice it - let it be. If you are using BT2020 color profile there is no yellow DI


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As tommarra recommended, don’t go looking for it...you’ll notice it if it does occur. Just enjoy it.


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With a 100" ST130 screen, he probably has the iris closed enough, that it will never be a problem.
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Question for existing rs3000 owners: may you please comment if you hear any clicking sounds from your projector when the DI is set to auto2 and it is making adjustments? Can you hear the DI from your main listening position?


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I hear a clicking noise when my nx5 first starts up fo about 3 seconds that’s it.
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Question for existing rs3000 owners: may you please comment if you hear any clicking sounds from your projector when the DI is set to auto2 and it is making adjustments? Can you hear the DI from your main listening position?
There were some reports of this earlier in the thread around Jan/Feb. I've not heard it on my RS3000.
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Can you find an RS640 ?
I was thinking of an used one! But not sure ...
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I hear a clicking noise when my nx5 first starts up fo about 3 seconds that’s it.
Same (NX-7).
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[QUOTE=readthis13;58018698] I use a Shield for 99% of my viewing, and will kick over to an Apple TV for Netflix/Amazon streaming.

With an incoming RS2000 and currently using Shield to stream everything, was curious why you switch over to Apple TV for Netflix/Amazon streaming? Any advantage I'm missing for the projector using the Shield versus Apple TV? Thanks.
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There were some reports of this earlier in the thread around Jan/Feb. I've not heard it on my RS3000.
What about any quacking sounds?
I guess I better *duck* after that joke.
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I use a Shield for 99% of my viewing, and will kick over to an Apple TV for Netflix/Amazon streaming.

With an incoming RS2000 and currently using Shield to stream everything, was curious why you switch over to Apple TV for Netflix/Amazon streaming? Any advantage I'm missing for the projector using the Shield versus Apple TV? Thanks.
The shield will output direct pass through audio when using Plex (so I can get full Atmos, DTS, etc). However, the shield doesn't have support for Atmos on Netflix and Amazon, nor does it support Dolby Vision for either.

Because I use plex for nearly all my movies and standard TV (except Netflix and Amazon), I'm sort of stuck using both.

I like the Apple TV overall, but it's missing one critical item unfortunately.
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The shield will output direct pass through audio when using Plex (so I can get full Atmos, DTS, etc). However, the shield doesn't have support for Atmos on Netflix and Amazon, nor does it support Dolby Vision for either.

Because I use plex for nearly all my movies and standard TV (except Netflix and Amazon), I'm sort of stuck using both.

I like the Apple TV overall, but it's missing one critical item unfortunately.


I’m in a similar situation. I had an htpc with madvr set up to stream my rips from my server. I ended up ditching that to go with Apple TV 4k as it had all of the apps I needed to watch tv (dtvnow) and stream my content. Trying to make things all in one device and WAF. Now I’m debating getting a shield but I would still need atv4k for my movies I have on iTunes that don’t transfer to MA and to watch dtvnow as there is no native app for Android tv. Thinking what else I need besides a panny ub820 when I get my nx5
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I would get the RS3000. To many people say it is VERY close to the RS4500.
Having both, i disagree..
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I use a Shield for 99% of my viewing, and will kick over to an Apple TV for Netflix/Amazon streaming.

With an incoming RS2000 and currently using Shield to stream everything, was curious why you switch over to Apple TV for Netflix/Amazon streaming? Any advantage I'm missing for the projector using the Shield versus Apple TV? Thanks.


I would never switch to AppleTv given its proclivity to mess up HDR meta data. Shield IMO is the best streamer out there


Only thing Shield can't do that Apple TV does is Atmos on Netflix.

For Amazon Video you get Atmos on Shield as well.

I have never missed Atmos on Netflix TBH - my Anthem does a very good scaling up to Heighy using Dolby Surround or DtS-X upscaling

The issues with HDR you may get with AppleTV are enough of a reason to just use Shield as the streamer and HTPC for movie rips

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Off topic question for the dealers...

Since I have my NX7 now, I sold my Panasonic AE8000 on ebay, and I was wondering what the cheapest way to ship projectors is. Like, which carrier. You can PM me if you want to keep it out of the thread.

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Question: I was watching Mortal Engines - a terrible terrible movie but amazing visuals.

I noticed slight frame stuttering in some scenes and end credits . My source was setup to 23p to match the movie frameste. So I turned on the CMD and the stuttering disappears.

Now I am planning to just leave the CMD to Low. Am I doing something wrong? Will there be any negative impact to image quality?




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Since I have my NX7 now, I sold my Panasonic AE8000 on ebay, and I was wondering what the cheapest way to ship projectors is. Like, which carrier. You can PM me if you want to keep it out of the thread.


If it’s heavy Freight might be best. UPS or Fedex otherwise ... provided you pack it nicely


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Since I have my NX7 now, I sold my Panasonic AE8000 on ebay, and I was wondering what the cheapest way to ship projectors is. Like, which carrier. You can PM me if you want to keep it out of the thread.
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Hello, RS640 vs RS2000? Majority of my current content is in 720P and few 1080P. So which one will give me a better picture? My current setup is 120" screen using RS50 and I know either one will be better than what I have currently. But wondering if I am loosing something by going with RS2000 in terms of lower contrast and brightness! Has there been any comparisons between these two? And any with 720P/1080P content? I appreciate any thoughts and suggestions. Thanks.
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Can you find an RS640 ?
I have the 540 and love the projector. However I did see an NX7 playing 1080P content and it just had more depth and sharpness then I can remember getting from my projector.
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