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I had a weird thing I posted in the Panamorph thread. But here is what needs to be done with my machine and you may want to check yours. My RS2000 has to be on for more than an hour for convergence to set in all the way. We know that they should be on for more than 30MN but mine does not settle in untile 90MN or so. I would check it at different time points to be sure.
Yep. My first RS4500 was this way. My current RS4500 settles in convergence in about 30 min.

Here is what you can do to live with it:
Set up convergence after 15 minutes then go to lens memory and clone set 1 to set 2. Rename set 1 to "cold" and set 2 to "warm". Select set 2 and after 90 min, adjust convergence again. When you power on you can set set 1 and when 90 min or so elapses you can switch to set 2.

For me, I have an HTPC so I just automated all this so I never had to set anything.

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So... should I start to be worried that my NX7 pre-order from October is still not shipped? The situation exceeded ridiculousness several months ago and now I'm starting to get a little pissed off. I've been pretty patient until now; enjoying getting extra information about these projectors before reaching the no-cancellation point. But now WTF, JVC?
Perhaps your dealer for some reason is very low on the list?

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And only 4 months away from the releases of the new models (possibly) . . .
There's no way new models are *shipping* on 9/9/2019. Absolutely no way.
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I just set up my NX9 and it's looking very good with my 100” Studio Tek130 G3. I did a quick calibration for SDR and HDR and the color points on both SDR and HDR are fantastic out of the box. I know there has been some talk of a yellowish look when viewing auto iris in HDR as well as banding. What can you recommend for checking this?
I'd recommend not checking for it. Since it's not something you replace your projector to fix, and you're asking "how to check it" means you didn't notice it already, you should just be happy and move on. Nothing to be gained by looking for problems you dont notice.
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Hello, RS640 vs RS2000? Majority of my current content is in 720P and few 1080P. So which one will give me a better picture? My current setup is 120" screen using RS50 and I know either one will be better than what I have currently. But wondering if I am loosing something by going with RS2000 in terms of lower contrast and brightness! Has there been any comparisons between these two? And any with 720P/1080P content? I appreciate any thoughts and suggestions. Thanks.
If you're planning to keep watching 720p / 1080p content and just send it as 720p or 1080p to the projector, then an RS540 / RS640 would in some cases look better due to better black performance and a much lower black floor. However, if you're going to pass all that through something like madVR that upscales it to 4K SDR for you, then you'd notice the improved sharpness on the new models. I think in your case, I'd just get the RS640 if that's cheap enough or an RS540, or anyone's used RS500 or better.

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I have the 540 and love the projector. However I did see an NX7 playing 1080P content and it just had more depth and sharpness then I can remember getting from my projector.
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If you're planning to keep watching 720p / 1080p content and just send it as 720p or 1080p to the projector, then an RS540 / RS640 would in some cases look better due to better black performance and a much lower black floor. However, if you're going to pass all that through something like madVR that upscales it to 4K SDR for you, then you'd notice the improved sharpness on the new models. I think in your case, I'd just get the RS640 if that's cheap enough or an RS540, or anyone's used RS500 or better.
Currently I am sending content direct but I am thinking about upgrading. Thank you
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Hello, RS640 vs RS2000? Majority of my current content is in 720P and few 1080P. So which one will give me a better picture? My current setup is 120" screen using RS50 and I know either one will be better than what I have currently. But wondering if I am loosing something by going with RS2000 in terms of lower contrast and brightness! Has there been any comparisons between these two? And any with 720P/1080P content? I appreciate any thoughts and suggestions. Thanks.
If you're planning to keep watching 720p / 1080p content and just send it as 720p or 1080p to the projector, then an RS540 / RS640 would in some cases look better due to better black performance and a much lower black floor. However, if you're going to pass all that through something like madVR that upscales it to 4K SDR for you, then you'd notice the improved sharpness on the new models. I think in your case, I'd just get the RS640 if that's cheap enough or an RS540, or anyone's used RS500 or better.
When watching 1080P content on the NX7 it just looked better to me then my 790. And I upscale my material before it gets to the projector and the 1080P material I saw on the NX7 was upscaled by the projector.

Everything on the NX7 just looked sharper and calmer then my 790. Kind of hard to explain it but the difference is there. Maybe this was due to many different factors but if money were not an issue I would hands down go with the NX7 over a 540 or 640.
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Off topic question for the dealers...

Since I have my NX7 now, I sold my Panasonic AE8000 on ebay, and I was wondering what the cheapest way to ship projectors is. Like, which carrier. You can PM me if you want to keep it out of the thread.
Not that big and not that heavy, so would use UPS ground. Double boxed and insured.
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In the case of the Blue Bars issue....it's becoming painfully apparent that most units that have that issue only exhibit such after being operated for a few hours viewing time.
Not true. It has occurred on mine within a few minutes of the start of viewing. It appears to depend on the material being viewed, but the actual occurrence of the problem is largely random, so it is hard to determine the conditions under which it occurs.

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So that spells out an incompatibility between Firmware and Hardware that renders the installed Firmware ineffectual. And...the fact that some affected individuals must actually have the PJ unit replaced to resolve the issue speaks of a more serious issue than simply inadequate Firmware.
I have not seen any case where the firmware fix did NOT fix it. There were cases where JVC replaced the projector but that seems to have been before the problem was fully understood (and where the firmware fix was not tried).
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Since I have my NX7 now, I sold my Panasonic AE8000 on ebay, and I was wondering what the cheapest way to ship projectors is. Like, which carrier. You can PM me if you want to keep it out of the thread.
When double boxing, I would put some type of material between each box as well. The smaller the outer box is the less you will be charged so about 1-2" all the way around is where you want to be. Make sure that new owner powers up his unit the day he gets it, not 3 months from now after his theater room is complete You want to file those claims asap, not 2 days, 2 weeks, or 2 months down the road, at some point the insurance vanishes without notice.

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There's no way new models are *shipping* on 9/9/2019. Absolutely no way.
Would it not be great to be at Cedia or CES and hear, these products we are displaying today are available today throughout the US. They just landed thru our distribution channels yesterday

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I contacted JVC about my issue as I reported it last week to them and they said they will email me the firmware sometime today. We will see if that actually happens.
If you have an issue, JVC will work with you to get it fixed. I was only referring to people that do not have an issue and just wanting 2.05. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
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When double boxing, I would put some type of material between each box as well. The smaller the outer box is the less you will be charged so about 1-2" all the way around is where you want to be. Make sure that new owner powers up his unit the day he gets it, not 3 months from now after his theater room is complete You want to file those claims asap, not 2 days, 2 weeks, or 2 months down the road, at some point the insurance vanishes without notice.

Would it not be great to be at Cedia or CES and hear, these products we are displaying today are available today throughout the US. They just landed thru our distribution channels yesterday
Like that will ever happen.
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I've been thinking of going with a projector and have been slowly trying to educate myself on this format. I'm particularly interested in the NX7. I have room for a projection surface of 74"x130" which I guess is ~ 150" screen. However, there is a light in the ceiling that is exactly where I would want to mount the projector.

Question 1: If I mount the projector with a -16'ish throw, I will be close to max zoom out to fill the 150" 16:9. Are there any anomalies that occur as you approach the ends of the zoom?

Question 2: Although my personal OCD may not allow me to do it, I could mount the projector a few feet off center which would allow the zoom to be less extreme. Are there uniformity issues on the NX7 that would come into play if I wasn't dead center. i.e. more brightness to one side or keystone stuff?

Thanks for any insight.

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Hopefully this is a quick question. RS1000 paired with ub820. What should I be outputting from the player SDR.2020 or HDR?
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I'd really suggest trying the 820 with basic luminance, HDR BT.2020, Optimizer on(all settings zero'd). JVC in HDRPQ, auto tonemapping on and then adjust the overall mapping to get the brightness where you want it (I'm at +2). Make sure you use a title with good meta data to set the overall mapping level on the JVC.

So far this combo has shined with every title I've thrown at it that has metadata. The ones without, thanks Disney, I just use the Panasonic optimizer to correct.

I use the color filter on my setup, but that basic config should work without as well.
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Some drives it does not like.

Also be sure to format it in windows as Fat 32 file system.

I had a odd time with FW as well. Cant remember what i did. I think i looked in the manual to see the specifics. There is one detail that escapes me but im sure i found it in the manual since i completed the update.

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I've been thinking of going with a projector and have been slowly trying to educate myself on this format. I'm particularly interested in the NX7. I have room for a projection surface of 74"x130" which I guess is ~ 150" screen. However, there is a light in the ceiling that is exactly where I would want to mount the projector.

Question 1: If I mount the projector with a -16'ish throw, I will be close to max zoom out to fill the 150" 16:9. Are there any anomalies that occur as you approach the ends of the zoom?

Question 2: Although my personal OCD may not allow me to do it, I could mount the projector a few feet off center which would allow the zoom to be less extreme. Are there uniformity issues on the NX7 that would come into play if I wasn't dead center. i.e. more brightness to one side or keystone stuff?

Thanks for any insight.
1) Your image will actually be the brightest possible when the projector is as close as possible, but you will get slightly less contrast.
Moving the projector farther back means the image will be darker but have slightly more contrast.

2) Since the horizontal shift is not necessary in your setup, you will gain no benefit from doing so other than a slight amount of contrast.
You want as much brightness as possible at your screen size, so mount the projector as close as possible and as centered as possible.
As far as uniformity issues from being off-center using horizontal shift, on an older JVC at least, not really uniformity so much but there can be some fringing on HTPC text, not very noticeable in movies. However, this could be more detrimental to a 4k image, so no reason to do it. Simply stay with your first idea and mount the projector centered as possible IMO.

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Hopefully this is a quick question. RS1000 paired with ub820. What should I be outputting from the player SDR.2020 or HDR?
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1) Your image will actually be the brightest possible when the projector is as close as possible, but you will get slightly less contrast.
Moving the projector farther back means the image will be darker but have slightly more contrast.

2) Since the horizontal shift is not necessary in your setup, you will gain no benefit from doing so other than a slight amount of contrast.
You want as much brightness as possible at your screen size, so mount the projector as close as possible and as centered as possible.
As far as uniformity issues, on an older JVC at least, not really uniformity so much but there can be some fringing on HTPC text, not very noticeable in movies.
However, this could be more detrimental to a 4k image, so no reason to do it. Simply stay with your first idea and mount the projector centered as possible IMO.
Thanks, so the only real problem with max zoom is lower contrast? I guess I was thinking in terms of camera zoom where you start to expose the weakness of the lens as you approach the ends of their ratio. I actually think I would prefer the "brighter" image anyhow as long as it doesn't cause focus issues, fuzzy edges or fisheye.
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Thanks, so the only real problem with max zoom is lower contrast? I guess I was thinking in terms of camera zoom where you start to expose the weakness of the lens as you approach the ends of their ratio. I actually think I would prefer the "brighter" image anyhow as long as it doesn't cause focus issues, fuzzy edges or fisheye.
No focus issues when you mount the PJ horizontally centered and at closest throw...

For JVC projectors, there is very little lens difference between max throw and closest throw, usually mid-throw to 'almost closest' is sharpest, but it varies on every lens sample.

For my specific JVC, about mid-throw is sharpest, but the difference is minimal, using horizontal shift hurts the picture more than anything else.
I am forced to use H-shift, so I know. It's not horrible having to use h-shift, but you avoid it whenever possible.

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No focus issues when you mount the PJ horizontally centered and at closest throw...

For JVC projectors, there is very little lens difference between max throw and closest throw, usually mid-throw to 'almost closest' is sharpest, but it varies on every lens sample.

For my specific JVC, about mid-throw is sharpest, but the difference is minimal, using horizontal shift hurts the picture more than anything else.
I am forced to use H-shift, so I know. It's not horrible having to use h-shift, but you avoid it whenever possible.
Thanks for the feedback!
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Watched "a few good men" on UHD, picture is absolute gorgeous.....but man the blowout whites when using the DI is killing with that movie.....those white uniforms light up!
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I have also noticed that the activation of low-level CDM leads to a more stable image and in my opinion even more detailed. On my NX5 I didn't notice any artifact added by the CMD, in my opinion JVC with the latest NX series even in this function has made considerable progress.
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mine is set to hdr
Same. Although Are you watching an HDR disc or an SDR disc?

Im pretty sure it just auto detects and plays the best possible content its being fed

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mine is set to hdr
Same. Although Are you watching an HDR disc or an SDR disc?

Im pretty sure it just auto detects and plays the best possible content its being fed
Correct, sdr disc show up as sdr signal and hdr as hdr signal. It’s nice the projector knows to automatically switch to the hdr profile and vice versa.

I learned for the Apple TV you want it as SDR or the main page will display as hdr and no matter what you watch will play in hdr. If sdr is set everything is that unless it’s hdr content
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mine is set to hdr
Thats how i have it now, but only played with it for a few minutes last night for the first time.

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Would it not be great to be at Cedia or CES and hear, these products we are displaying today are available today throughout the US. They just landed thru our distribution channels yesterday
Do you think JVC will even announce new projectors this CEDIA? I'm thinking the issues they had with the NX5,NX7,NX9 might have put a stop to their research and development for their next line of projectors. I would hope not though, as I'm looking forward to see what improvements they can make... especially with the black levels and contrast.
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Do you think JVC will even announce new projectors this CEDIA? I'm thinking the issues they had with the NX5,NX7,NX9 might have put a stop to their research and development for their next line of projectors. I would hope not though, as I'm looking forward to see what improvements they can make... especially with the black levels and contrast.
Z3, successor to the Z1 announced at CEDIA this year.

Just my guess lol. I have 0 real evidence, just rumors from people who claim to know. Other people who claim to know have also told me that its not likely at all.

But still my guess.
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