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My RS-2000 hasn't had any of the vertical stripes thankfully, so far. I still have slow start up times though, about 2.20 minutes. It did get down to about 1.25 minutes after the 2.01 firmware update but, then seemed to go back to the 2 minute mark. I actually switch the input on my Yamaha RX-A1080 and then the D-ILA logo seems to appear. I did put in my new spare bulb and am running with it now for about 4 hours.

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Sorry, but the whole N/NX series is a joke!!
How do you make that inference? There are hundreds if not thousands who are not on AVS and are perfectly happy with their projector.

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Can I ask how is the audio calibration he does different from running ARC on my Anthem? Is he able to create some form of custom EQ and calibration that ARC cannot do?
Mine was done with Chad B. It is far beyond that, with audio calibration you are looking at around 8 hours of him being there working. I do not know all the ins and outs, I know each speaker is tuned and tested individually.
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Unless there was a running change in the hardware, it definitely feels like v2.0x firmware related. I had 120 hours on my original RS3000, using v1.17 and 1.19 (I think, whatever they publicly made available) without issue.

I only just ended up with a replacement - which reproduced this issue after only 5 hours total lamp time - as my lamp wouldn't strike and when I went to put in my replacement the connector was lose and couldn't connect. The connector has a flange and is behind another piece of plastic and so pulls tight against that to let the connector disconnect but the retaining clip (I'm guessing) had come loose and so was free to push back and never could reconnect.
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Concerning my red and yellow bars and ghosting my Canadian JVC rep did not indicate there was any immediate fix and needs to see the machine to possibly duplicate the issue. I think I'll wait before sending it in since he doesn't know what will cause it or how to exactly fix it. I would suggest there's no real fix yet unless there's a 2.06. But I'm having the bars and input 2 not working
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How do you make that inference? There are hundreds if not thousands who are not on AVS and are perfectly happy with their projector.
Not sure your statement makes sense. if there are issues being reported on AVS by multiple members than there are inherent issues for all JVC owners. Just because they don't post on AVS doesn't mean their units are not working or working, it just means they don't post on AVS. IE if "X" percent of all units are having issues than that applies across the board for all owners all over the world. I would say there is enough evidence on this thread that these projectors have issues...there is plenty of documentation that this should not be a point of discussion..it is a fact. Whether those will all be resolved with future firmware updates remains to be seen. The power of this community is sharing information and helping JVC make a better product going forward.
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Spare Bulb Storage

I got notification of shipment today, barely 2 weeks after I mailed in the form. I don't think there is an issue storing the bulb in its packaging in the attic but wanted to make sure if extreme temps are an issue (attics in Texas can get pretty hot in the summer)
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I got notification of shipment today, barely 2 weeks after I mailed in the form. I don't think there is an issue storing the bulb in its packaging in the attic but wanted to make sure if extreme temps are an issue (attics in Texas can get pretty hot in the summer)
Hmm, unlikely that it gets as hot in your attic as it does in the projector when turned on.

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I got notification of shipment today, barely 2 weeks after I mailed in the form.
I don't think there is an issue storing the bulb in its packaging in the attic but wanted to make sure if extreme temps are an issue
(attics in Texas can get pretty hot in the summer)
Just as a Heads-Up i (Suggest) not storing that extra Lamp-Assembly in your attic in Texas.
I live in Franklin, TN. and even here in mid-summer it can and does reach plus 100-degrees.
And the temperature in the attic is way-way higher than the outside that's for sure.
Anyway, years and years ago I use to store different things in the attic and below is what actually took place.
Anything that was in a box the Constant-HEAT deteriorated and the box simply turned Brittle and when Touched broke into shreds instantly.

Don't do it .............

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Hmm, unlikely that it gets as hot in your attic as it does in the projector when turned on.

That was my thought as well but, why does it have to be in the attic? It's such a small box I would just put it on the shelf in a closet unless he's really strapped for storage space.
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Concerning my red and yellow bars and ghosting my Canadian JVC rep did not indicate there was any immediate fix and needs to see the machine to possibly duplicate the issue. I think I'll wait before sending it in since he doesn't know what will cause it or how to exactly fix it. I would suggest there's no real fix yet unless there's a 2.06. But I'm having the bars and input 2 not working
I've had the same issue, but so far has only occurred while watching movies on AppleTV. I contacted JVC and they had me send an email to their projector tech department. We'll see what they say. While this issue was occurring the resolution display box that appears in the upper right corner was also shaking.
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Do we have users in the EU with the vertical lines issues? Considering we have different voltage output over here. Just a long shot. Also do you get the issue even with fiber optic hdmi cabling?

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I got notification of shipment today, barely 2 weeks after I mailed in the form. I don't think there is an issue storing the bulb in its packaging in the attic but wanted to make sure if extreme temps are an issue (attics in Texas can get pretty hot in the summer)
Thermal cycling is often used as a means of accelerating the life time of a part or material in reliability engineering studies. Putting it in your attic would be very similar to this.
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Do we have users in the EU with the vertical lines issues? Considering we have different voltage output over here. Just a long shot. Also do you get the issue even with fiber optic hdmi cabling?
I still hope that my unit won't be affected.
Just yesterday a NX9 owner sent me a picture as evidence. Some days prior I was told there are three known cases. So that makes it four in my country.

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Concerning my red and yellow bars and ghosting my Canadian JVC rep did not indicate there was any immediate fix and needs to see the machine to possibly duplicate the issue. I think I'll wait before sending it in since he doesn't know what will cause it or how to exactly fix it. I would suggest there's no real fix yet unless there's a 2.06. But I'm having the bars and input 2 not working
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I've had the same issue and, but so far has only occurred while watching movies on AppleTV. I contacted JVC and they had me send an email to their projector tech department. We'll see what they say. While this issue was occurring the resolution display box that appears in the upper right corner was also shaking.
Listen guys, i've been there and, yes, my OSD was "shaking" too. This is NOT hardware fault is a firmware bug. I've had the very same issues, Jvc japan look at the video i've sent by email (my dealer sent) and they say: firmware update. After 2.05 install issue is gone. Now i have the "blue vertical bars" tough but that's a whole different thing.

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I'm in Europe and i have the blue vertical bars bug. I now other european owners who experienced this bug, too. I'm on fiber optic hdmi cabling. The issue has NOTHING to do with voltage, sources or cables. Is a bug and can happen also with nothing attached and projector under a voltage conditioner.
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Listen guys, i've been there and, yes, my OSD was "shaking" too. This is NOT hardware fault is a firmware bug. I've had the very same issues, Jvc japan look at the video i've sent by email (my dealer sent) and they say: firmware update. After 2.05 install issue is gone. Now i have the "blue vertical bars" tough but that's a whole different thing.



I'm in Europe and i have the blue vertical bars bug. I now other european owners who experienced this bug, too. I'm on fiber optic hdmi cabling. The issue has NOTHING to do with voltage, sources or cables. Is a bug and can happen also with nothing attached and projector under a voltage conditioner.
Thanks locutus2k. Hopefully they will email me firmware 2.05 It is not available on the website to download yet.
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Would the RS1000 be a massive upgrade over my RS400?
Considering the improvements in HDR, and the native 4K, I'd say it would be a big improvement. " Massive " is hard to define !

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Considering the improvements in HDR, and the native 4K, I'd say it would be a big improvement. " Massive " is hard to define !
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Would the RS1000 be a massive upgrade over my RS400?
Contrast and black level about the same. Big leap in clarity, sharpness, image noise/calmness. And of course, the auto tone mapping.
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Would the RS1000 be a massive upgrade over my RS400?

No. Unless you are very close to the screen and / your screen is huge.

Light output, contrast, etc are very similar. Dynamic tone mapping is a new feature, but can be easily fixed by clicking the Picture brightness setting under Gamma.

To me its not worth $3000 or so difference.

It would be a lateral upgade and not an upward upgrade.

IMO.

But if you are bothered by the eShift noise, then it would definitely be an upgrade.
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No. Unless you are very close to the screen and / your screen is huge.

Light output, contrast, etc are very similar. Dynamic tone mapping is a new feature, but can be easily fixed by clicking the Picture brightness setting under Gamma.

To me its not worth $3000 or so difference.

It would be a lateral upgade and not an upward upgrade.

IMO.

But if you are bothered by the eShift noise, then it would definitely be an upgrade.
Wow, so you're saying my 4 or 5 year old projector is on par with the new RS1000?

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No. Unless you are very close to the screen and / your screen is huge.

Light output, contrast, etc are very similar. Dynamic tone mapping is a new feature, but can be easily fixed by clicking the Picture brightness setting under Gamma.

To me its not worth $3000 or so difference.

It would be a lateral upgade and not an upward upgrade.

IMO.

But if you are bothered by the eShift noise, then it would definitely be an upgrade.
For an alternative opinion, I find my NX7 to be significantly better than my x750, if for no other reason than the auto HDR switching and tone mapping with my Panasonic UB9000. I am very happy with the upgrade.

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For an alternative opinion, I find my NX7 to be significantly better than my x750, if for no other reason than the auto HDR switching and tone mapping with my Panasonic UB9000. I am very happy with the upgrade.

But as always, YMMV.
I'm leaning heavily towards the NX7, but I'm having a conundrum. I have a 22.5' x 18.5' x 10.2' room.
The room can pretty much do black out if I need too.
I want to go scope and I can do 150" or 180" or whatever the supported size around 180" is.
I'm have to choose between doing my HDMI/Power drop to support a 20' throw, needed to do 180"
Or, 16' throw which would restrict the size of the screen to the 150's with a very extreme zoom.

Obviously the brightness will be better at 16'. But I'm kind of doing this for size so I'd rather mount at 20'.
Big caveat ... I don't have experience with projectors and I live in the sticks so no access to places with projectors to look at.

Do you think I'll get sufficient brightness for good HDR pop at 180" from a 20' throw? I know it is subjective and you don't know me. Just general thoughts would be appreciated.
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Mine was done with Chad B. It is far beyond that, with audio calibration you are looking at around 8 hours of him being there working. I do not know all the ins and outs, I know each speaker is tuned and tested individually.
Thanks.

I am still trying to figure out apart from running ARC, double checking placement of speakers, levels at the main listening position, what else is there in audio calibration.

I dont know if there is a way to upload custom audio curve to my Anthem receiver.

Ultimately to decide whether to spend money on Audio calibration as well.

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I'm leaning heavily towards the NX7, but I'm having a conundrum. I have a 22.5' x 18.5' x 10.2' room.
The room can pretty much do black out if I need too.
I want to go scope and I can do 150" or 180" or whatever the supported size around 180" is.
I'm have to choose between doing my HDMI/Power drop to support a 20' throw, needed to do 180"
Or, 16' throw which would restrict the size of the screen to the 150's with a very extreme zoom.

Obviously the brightness will be better at 16'. But I'm kind of doing this for size so I'd rather mount at 20'.
Big caveat ... I don't have experience with projectors and I live in the sticks so no access to places with projectors to look at.

Do you think I'll get sufficient brightness for good HDR pop at 180" from a 20' throw? I know it is subjective and you don't know me. Just general thoughts would be appreciated.

What is your screen and screen gain? Without knowing that impossible to answer if you will get close to 100 nits for HDR or not.

You can always tonemap but you will crush some highlights.

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For an alternative opinion, I find my NX7 to be significantly better than my x750, if for no other reason than the auto HDR switching and tone mapping with my Panasonic UB9000. I am very happy with the upgrade.
If you use SDR2020 on the UB9000, the x750 will have a better contrast ratio than the NX7 for watching HDR movies.
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Wow, so you're saying my 4 or 5 year old projector is on par with the new RS1000?
No that is not what I am saying. You asked if it would be a 'massive' upgrade.

IMO it would not be a 'massive' upgrade. It would for sure be an upgrade for reasons others have pointed out (auto tone mapping, native 4K, auto HDR mode switching)

But when you are really watching a movie on a well calibrated setup, the key difference is contrast, light output. On these two measure NX5 and 440 (X5900) are quite similar.

For me personally not worth the extra $2K - $3K you pay. If you were going to NX7 or NX9, I would certainly say that the upgrade would be 'massive'.

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What is your screen and screen gain? Without knowing that impossible to answer if you will get close to 100 nits for HDR or not.

You can always tonemap but you will crush some highlights.
That is an excellent question. I don't have a screen picked, so I can choose a gain level to make up some brightness. This is one of those areas where my ignorance comes into play. According to the project calculator I'd need to go with a very high gain screen from 20' (1.6 or more) to get 100 nits. And I'm assuming that is an uncalibrated estimate which means another 20% loss or so. So I doubt I can get 100 nits on a 180" screen. Is the 100 nits the major driver for good perceived HDR then?
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No that is not what I am saying. You asked if it would be a 'massive' upgrade.

IMO it would not be a 'massive' upgrade. It would for sure be an upgrade for reasons others have pointed out (auto tone mapping, native 4K, auto HDR mode switching)

But when you are really watching a movie on a well calibrated setup, the key difference is contrast, light output. On these two measure NX5 and 440 (X5900) are quite similar.

For me personally not worth the extra $2K - $3K you pay. If you were going to NX7 or NX9, I would certainly say that the upgrade would be 'massive'.
Ah, gotcha. It's not the 440 I have but the 400. Thanks for the info!
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