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Just updated firmware v2.07 to my N5 (orig. v2.05).
I used the oldest USB stick in my home with only 128MB FAT32. Before update projector told it should take 15 min, actual time was about 10 min. Update was smooth and successful.
It took couple of minutes more time compared to normal startup to get D-ILA screen visible after first restart. I didn't do any factory reset (yet), I'll check first if everything works OK.
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Just updated firmware v2.07 to my N5 (orig. v2.05).
I used the oldest USB stick in my home with only 128MB FAT32. Before update projector told it should take 15 min, actual time was about 10 min. Update was smooth and successful.
It took couple of minutes more time compared to normal startup to get D-ILA screen visible after first restart. I didn't do any factory reset (yet), I'll check first if everything works OK.
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Have any other users loaded 2.07 and had the blue bars reappear? I am trying to decide if it is worth upgrading to 2.07.
I think that for most users it could take several days to show up. The only reason that I saw it so soon was because I have a test clip that will cause it within a few trys. Since installing 2.07 I have not seen it at all in normal usage
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I think that for most users it could take several days to show up. The only reason that I saw it so soon was because I have a test clip that will cause it within a few trys. Since installing 2.07 I have not seen it at all in normal usage
About that test clip... are you sure there is nothing wrong with the stream that can cause this issue? I also have one clip that will crash the Shield every single time but it will not crash any other player (hardware or software). If I check that clip in eac3to there is a single video glitch that causes the crash but it is NOT visible on any other player. If I remux the exact same clip with a different app the video glitch is gone and it will no longer crash the Shield.
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About that test clip... are you sure there is nothing wrong with the stream that can cause this issue? I also have one clip that will crash the Shield every single time but it will not crash any other player (hardware or software). If I check that clip in eac3to there is a single video glitch that causes the crash but it is NOT visible on any other player. If I remux the exact same clip with a different app the video glitch is gone and it will no longer crash the Shield.
The material in that clip is on the front of a LOT of videos that I have and play a lot. It's never caused a problem with anything before and did not cause a problem on the original firmware (1.17). As soon as as I installed 1.20 the problem showed up big time. I've since taken to strip that portion from the videos so I can play them without a problem.

I also see the problem on other movies/videos (albeit a lot less frequently) so I'm sure that it is not anything wrong with the stream.
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I think that for most users it could take several days to show up. The only reason that I saw it so soon was because I have a test clip that will cause it within a few trys.
Yours is the first anyone has been able to deliberately and repeatedly trigger the vertical bars problem with a specific piece of content. I hope you've passed this information on to JVC so they can test it for themselves. Hopefully that will help them get to the bottom of the issue.

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Yours is the first anyone has been able to deliberately and repeatedly trigger the vertical bars problem with a specific piece of content. I hope you've passed this information on to JVC so they can test it for themselves. Hopefully that will help them get to the bottom of the issue.
Yes, I've passed it on to my dealer and he's in contact with JVC. They have asked for pictures and I'm going to do that as soon as I have time. I'm not sure whether he's passed the clip on to JVC yet. It would certainly be interesting to see if they can reproduce the problem with it.

The most frustrating part of this problem is that, because it happens so sporadically, it is so easy to think that the problem is fixed when it really isn't.
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Sorry, but the whole N/NX series is a joke!!
You're right, I chuckle every time I fire mine up and enjoy the best picture I've seen in my space by a fair margin... Your posts are so constructive! Why don't you just sell yours off (If you haven't already) and head on out of here if they are bothering you so much.

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Thanks.

I am still trying to figure out apart from running ARC, double checking placement of speakers, levels at the main listening position, what else is there in audio calibration.

I dont know if there is a way to upload custom audio curve to my Anthem receiver.

Ultimately to decide whether to spend money on Audio calibration as well.
Oh audio calibration can go soo much deeper than that. With any AutoEQ system like ARC, with the exception perhaps of trinnov, additional work will always yield better results. Anything from dialing in your own "House curve" on the bass which is totally to your own preference, to introducing a slight bump in dB in surrounds for a more immersive effect, to shallow rolloff of the high freqs a la Harman curve theory. That's a rabbit hole that goes quite deep honestly but ultimately depends on what actually sounds best to you.

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Oh audio calibration can go soo much deeper than that. With any AutoEQ system like ARC, with the exception perhaps of trinnov, additional work will always yield better results. Anything from dialing in your own "House curve" on the bass which is totally to your own preference, to introducing a slight bump in dB in surrounds for a more immersive effect, to shallow rolloff of the high freqs a la Harman curve theory. That's a rabbit hole that goes quite deep honestly but ultimately depends on what actually sounds best to you.


Thanks - but how does the calibrator actually do this? Is there a way for a receiver like Anthem MRX 720 to load custom EQ curves? Or does one need a specialized equipment in middle of receiver and amp?



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Yes, I've passed it on to my dealer and he's in contact with JVC. They have asked for pictures and I'm going to do that as soon as I have time. I'm not sure whether he's passed the clip on to JVC yet. It would certainly be interesting to see if they can reproduce the problem with it.

The most frustrating part of this problem is that, because it happens so sporadically, it is so easy to think that the problem is fixed when it really isn't.
It has been sent to a JVC engineer.

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Thanks - but how does the calibrator actually do this? Is there a way for a receiver like Anthem MRX 720 to load custom EQ curves? Or does one need a specialized equipment in middle of receiver and amp?



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Both sort of. The anthem's tone controls can be used in many cases, as well as the speaker trim levels. Most subwoofers have some adjustment to them to dial in a house curve but a simple bump in level may be all it takes for you.

You don't really want to just wing it with these types of adjustments without some way to measure, at the very least a standard SPL meter will help you out, but you REALLY want to see what's going on you have to get a measurement microphone like a UMIK-1 (With REW (Free software)) or Omnimic. That way you can actually see what's going on with your response as you make fine adjustments.

Another thing to mention is that auto cal's very rarely get the speaker to subwoofer transition right. They don't even measure to test and see in most cases. ARC doesn't even test for distances period so this area often takes some manipulation to get dialed in. Even with the Audyssey suite, manual adjustment (SDT or subwoofer distance tweak) is needed to get the best response over the crossover area. I could go on for a long time about all these things but all this info is readily available on several threads right here on AVS.

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Sure a lot easier now than when I had an RS600 !
Hardest part was finding that serial cable.

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You're right, I chuckle every time I fire mine up and enjoy the best picture I've seen in my space by a fair margin...

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RS 1000 appears in the Harmony Elite database, but there's hardly any buttons and it won't power on with it either. Anybody else getting this issue? It's like it's just there but nothing works.

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Yes, I've passed it on to my dealer and he's in contact with JVC. They have asked for pictures and I'm going to do that as soon as I have time. I'm not sure whether he's passed the clip on to JVC yet. It would certainly be interesting to see if they can reproduce the problem with it.



The most frustrating part of this problem is that, because it happens so sporadically, it is so easy to think that the problem is fixed when it really isn't.


Could you share the file so other owners could give it a try?


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Could you please share the specifics of subwoofer measurement using a (Radio Shack) SPL meter? I know how to set it to measure (and calibrate) typical home theater speakers, but I've never found a way to make it useful for subwoofers. Thanks!
C'mon man, take the audio discussion to the appropriate thread or pm. This is completely off topic here.
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It has been sent to a JVC engineer.


It’s nice to see you and Mike take an interest and being a liaison between the customers and Jvc. Much appreciated
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It’s nice to see you and Mike take an interest and being a liaison between the customers and Jvc. Much appreciated
We all just want great 4K projectors that never have any bugs. We do whatever we can do to help. My RS4500 has been trouble free for 27 months. That's what we all want for all projectors ( JVC or not ) right on down to the RS1000.

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C'mon man, take the audio discussion to the appropriate thread or pm. This is completely off topic here.
My post was meant to be a P.M. and has been deleted, but why pick on that one among the many previous postings about audio calibration on this thread?
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My post was meant to be a P.M. and has been deleted, but why pick on that one among the many previous postings about audio calibration on this thread?
I apologize. I saw those posts as well and then I read yours last. I posted to you because yours was simply the last one. Before it got out of hand I just asked you if you could post in the appropriate thread or PM. Thanks!
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I'm looking for some remote codes. I just installed my RS2000 and am working through my oh-so-favorite choir of programming a RF/IR remote. I have to re-train myself every time I upgrade my electronics and go through this......

I use URC's CCP software to program a MX1200 remote. I am currently using the RS6710 pre-programmed IR data within the software, but it's missing discrete commands for anamorphic A, B, and C.
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C'mon man, take the audio discussion to the appropriate thread or pm. This is completely off topic here.
Tom is correct. Please keep.the discussion on topic. No one is saying the topic can't be discussed, but in the appropriate forum (and thread) or take it to PM. Why? So other researching for answers on this projector do t have to wade through discussions concerning audio topics.
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RS 1000 appears in the Harmony Elite database, but there's hardly any buttons and it won't power on with it either. Anybody else getting this issue? It's like it's just there but nothing works.
It fully programmed my harmony one. I see all the commands. I'm using the "My Harmony" app to update the remote.
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About that test clip... are you sure there is nothing wrong with the stream that can cause this issue? I also have one clip that will crash the Shield every single time but it will not crash any other player (hardware or software). If I check that clip in eac3to there is a single video glitch that causes the crash but it is NOT visible on any other player. If I remux the exact same clip with a different app the video glitch is gone and it will no longer crash the Shield.
There should be nothing your source can send to your projector that would cause your projector to only work if power cycled.
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I'm looking for some remote codes. I just installed my RS2000 and am working through my oh-so-favorite choir of programming a RF/IR remote. I have to re-train myself every time I upgrade my electronics and go through this......

I use URC's CCP software to program a MX1200 remote. I am currently using the RS6710 pre-programmed IR data within the software, but it's missing discrete commands for anamorphic A, B, and C.
Anamorphic A=23h
Anamorphic B=2Bh
Anamorphic C=33h

You can use makehex.exe to make pronto codes for these if you need those.

Here's the pronto code for anamphpic A: (Device Code: 115 Function: 35):
0000 006D 0001 0011 0141 00A0 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 030E


Here's the pronto code for anamporhic B (Device Code: 115 Function: 43):
0000 006D 0001 0011 0141 00A0 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 02E6

Here's the pronto code for anamorphic C (Device Code: 115 Function: 51):
0000 006D 0001 0011 0141 00A0 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 02E6

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Turn ECO mode off.


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Official JVC RS3000/NX9 - JVC RS2000/NX7/N7 - JVC RS1000/NX5/N5 - Owners Thread

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I'm sorry to report that the 2.07 update does NOT fix the vertical bars problem. Note that the problem normally might not show up for quite a while so it might appear to be fixed when it is not. In my case it had not shown up for several days, but as soon as I tried a file that had caused it in the past, it came right up. I power cycled it and got the problem again.


Can we have that media file to test it out?

Edit: pls ignore since jmonier already forward that clip to his dealer to JVC team to check it out.


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Yours is the first anyone has been able to deliberately and repeatedly trigger the vertical bars problem with a specific piece of content. I hope you've passed this information on to JVC so they can test it for themselves. Hopefully that will help them get to the bottom of the issue.


Exactly that’s what need to be done for JVC team to know what exactly is the problem here.

I also believed that it is media dependent. For the most part, I don’t see vertical lines for past 2 months or so. The last one I have was when I m still on 1.19.


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The mention of the PXLDRIVE in this review is actually what made me jump in.
If you look at the white paper from their web site, they claim to have a much better design compared to other boosters (like the Gigabit Accelerator, I suppose) - loss detection, full re-clocking past EQ to remove both existing and EQ-induced jitter.

I have a cable that’s at the very end of their mentioned uncorrected passive 18 Gps support range (12 m/22 AWG), but it was listed by the manufacturer as supporting 10.2 Gbps (that was before HDMI 2.0 existed).
So according to the test report in the white paper, other accelerators wouldn’t help my cable, because it’s not lossy enough, so they would apply too much gain. A thinner cable would actually perform better when boosted.
Their solution claims to be one-size-fits-all.
They were announced at Cedia 2016 and their booster is THX-certified for cables, I guess that’s something (they list the THX certification tests in the white paper).

Anyway, I bought a PIXLDRIVE, and we’ll see.
I almost bought a Sony projector that only supported 10.2 Gbps, so if I only get that, it’s not the end of the world, and I still have other options.

The link to this product is under the video on YouTube.
I finally set up my new NX7. It was delayed by a couple weeks by JVC for “QC issues”, and came with firmware 2.06 (I upgraded to 2.07), with a “QC verified by JVC USA” wrap.
I am running 12m HDMI cables from 2007 (!), which an Internet archive search shows were rated for 10.2 Gbps. The key thing is that they use some (not all) 22AWG connectors, which apparently is key.
Indeed, from my 4K TV box, I can get 4K30, but nothing at all at 4K60.
With the PXLDRIVE box however, I get 4K60 flawlessly, and can successfully enable optional settings in the Apple TV 4K (4:2:2, 4:4:4).
So the PXLDRIVE HDMI booster does work with 12m (40 ft) cables from 2007.

I’ll post my impressions about the pj separately, but so far, so good, except:
- I got hit by the flashing green light issue, apparently I accidentally hit the Hide button when trying to switch inputs, thanks to the person who posted about this
- Auto-switching to HDR never switches back to SDR automatically, how to fix this?

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