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post #12421 of 20794 Old 06-05-2019, 06:14 PM
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"the DCR design allows the shortest throw which allows the maximum available light output."

I'm pretty sure an ISCOIII allows the shortest throw. My projector is 13ft from a 133 2:35 inch screen and I cannot even zoom out to fill that screen. Projected zoomed out image is about 4 inches from the border and i'm guessing in order for a DCR to work it needs to be far enough back so the image touches the border before it's compressed.

If that's the case I would need to move my projector back for a DCR lens.

I do think you'll need to move your projector back with either anamorphic lens. If your screen is 122" wide you'll need to be minimum 14ft for the Paladin DCR at 1.4 throw, with the ISCO if it is 1.6 throw then 16 feet is the minimum throw range. I have a 122" wide screen like yours, my projector with ISCO is mounted at 17ft, any closer I started to see distortion creep in. Anyway, I'm pretty sure the Paladin is 1.4X throw, one of the shortest there is in fact, at least compared to the common ones most are familiar with. The ISCO also shows softness and distortion towards the edges, just like the Paladin DCR, when you get close to the minimums you'll start seeing it as I did in my setup . Bottom line , either one will have to be mounted at the correct distance to avoid unwanted edge distortion. The ISCO has pin cushion distortion (wider on the ends, narrow in the middle) , the Paladin DCR being vertical compression has barrel distortion ( wider in the middle ). The DCR is best suited for a flat screen, whereas the ISCO best suited for a curved screen . The Paladin DCR will require 1.24X stretch to access the full 17:9 panel, the ISCO will require 1.33X stretch but will only utilize 16:9 portion of the panel, so you are cropping about 14% of light and detail . Lastly, Sony can stretch for 1.24X and 1.33X, JVC can only do 1.33X unless they have updated . So, unless you have an external scaler you are loosing the additional benefit the Paladin offers .

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What is meant is that as it is a VC (Vertical Compression) lens it works at the shorter throw / max zoom and so with more light being input into the lens than an HE lens, for a given distance from the screen. For example, using the zoom method I measured a 7% increase in total light when zooming an RS600 (haven't checked my RS3000) to fill the scope screen compared to the total light at the unzoomed 16:9. So the DCR starts with 7% more light into it than if I had continued to use the UH480.
Except I have already pointed out, the above is not correct. The ISCO and the Prismasonic lens both work at shorter throws than the DCR lens. Both of these, go below 1.4 throw ratio.
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The ISCO IIIL actually has, according to their own literature, an unlimited throw ratio capability depending on projector. The JVC falls under the "Unlimited" throw ratio range. You will need a curved screen on the lower end though. I tested it as low as 1.0 and it produced a perfectly sharp image...with a pincushion that would need an almost 90-degree screen though...lol

BTW, this is from the Schneider fact sheet but they are using the same ISCO fact sheet since the lenses are identical.
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Well, after saying my nx9 is perfect after over 100 hours.
This evening all of a sudden blue vertical bars and in the white area spots of yellow.
I turned it off for 10 minutes and back on and back to normal.
I am on version 2,04. I did down load 2.07 but have not installed it.
What solves this problem, other then a reboot.
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Well, after saying my nx9 is perfect after over 100 hours.
This evening all of a sudden blue vertical bars and in the white area spots of yellow.
I turned it off for 10 minutes and back on and back to normal.
I am on version 2,04. I did down load 2.07 but have not installed it.
What solves this problem, other then a reboot.
2.07 I believe.
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Well, after saying my nx9 is perfect after over 100 hours.
This evening all of a sudden blue vertical bars and in the white area spots of yellow.
I turned it off for 10 minutes and back on and back to normal.
I am on version 2,04. I did down load 2.07 but have not installed it.
What solves this problem, other then a reboot.
At any time and the last few hours did you switch your input signal to a different device that may be less stable with its video output
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Well, after saying my nx9 is perfect after over 100 hours.
This evening all of a sudden blue vertical bars and in the white area spots of yellow.
I turned it off for 10 minutes and back on and back to normal.
I am on version 2,04. I did down load 2.07 but have not installed it.
What solves this problem, other then a reboot.
At 50 hours My NX9 has been perfect. It is on 2.04. Should I install the update? I downloaded it but did not install. I have watched Apolled 11 with no problems.
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At 50 hours My NX9 has been perfect. It is on 2.04. Should I install the update? I downloaded it but did not install. I have watched Apolled 11 with no problems.
If you have no issues, then no, I would not install.
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All received my replacement NX9 due to faulty input 1 - got the new one and it seems to function well other than the convergence was noticeably off. See pick. I was able to adjust it with on click on blue and two on red, but I have had a lot of JVC projectors including the NX9 its replacing and never had to use the convergence adjustment. Is this normal to be this far off out of the box even if its adjustable? is this a problem or acceptable tolerance?


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Let's concentrte on the Netflix APP built into the UB9000 under main menu " NETWORK SERVICE" . Now go to SETUP on your UB9000. The following is my settings.

PLAYER SETTINGS

Resolution - AUTO
4k/60 Output - 4k/60p 4-4-4
24p Output - AUTO
HDMI (Video) Output Mode - AUTO
HDR10+ Setting - ON

ADVANCED SETTINGS

Color Mode - YCbCr (AUTO)
Deep Color Output - AUTO (12 bit priority)
25p/50p Output - OFF

I suspect that your4k/60 Output is something different from mine???
Hi roger these are my settings, the only difference I notice is in the Color Mode - YCbCr (AUTO)...I will try later, every else seems the same.

Video Format: Automatic
4K(50p/60p) Output: 4K(50p/60p) 4:4:4
24p Output: Automatic
HDMI(VIDEO) Output Mode: Automatic
HDMI(AUDIO) Output Mode: Audio Only
Dolby Vision Setting: Off
HDR10+ Setting: On

Colour Mode: YcbCr (4:4:4)
Deep Colour Output: Auto(12bit Priority)
HDR/Colour Gamut Output: HDR/BT.2020 (Auto)
SDR/HDR Conv. (Network Service): Off
HLG / PQ Conversion: Off
HDR Display Type: Basic Luminance Projector
HDCP Output Setting: Automatic
Content Type Flag: Automatic
Audio Output: Off
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All received my replacement NX9 due to faulty input 1 - got the new one and it seems to function well other than the convergence was noticeably off. See pick. I was able to adjust it with on click on blue and two on red, but I have had a lot of JVC projectors including the NX9 its replacing and never had to use the convergence adjustment. Is this normal to be this far off out of the box even if its adjustable? is this a problem or acceptable tolerance?


also very sorry about the previous post. Not sure what all the characters are I think I tried to post the picture the wrong way. I have tried several times to delete it but I keep getting a db error so hopefully the moderator can delete it.
Adjusting convergence is both fine and expected which is why the convergence adjustment exists in the first place. I bet you have to readjust it again after a couple days of acclimation.
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Kind request to delete that long post. Took me almost two days to scroll through that.
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At any time and the last few hours did you switch your input signal to a different device that may be less stable with its video output
No, i was watching a 3d movie on y oppo
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Kind request to delete that long post. Took me almost two days to scroll through that.
It took three of us almost as long to get rid of it.

If it happens, again, use the Report Post function as we don't read every post in every thread. (Someone else DID use RP or we wouldn't have known).
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Received an RS1000 and Panasonic UB9000 to play with, but found out the 50' fiber optic HDMI that I installed ahead of time was defective. AVR started acting up at the same time, so was not sure what the problem was and took me a day to determine. A hard reset of the AVR solved that problem and new cable arrives today. Have had the projector hear for a week and have not been able to use it.
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All received my replacement NX9 due to faulty input 1 - got the new one and it seems to function well other than the convergence was noticeably off. See pick. I was able to adjust it with on click on blue and two on red, but I have had a lot of JVC projectors including the NX9 its replacing and never had to use the convergence adjustment. Is this normal to be this far off out of the box even if its adjustable? is this a problem or acceptable tolerance?


also very sorry about the previous post. Not sure what all the characters are I think I tried to post the picture the wrong way. I have tried several times to delete it but I keep getting a db error so hopefully the moderator can delete it.
In a few days correct and for mine you need to have it on 60-90 Minutes before you even look at it. 30 is not enough.

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Received an RS1000 and Panasonic UB9000 to play with, but found out the 50' fiber optic HDMI that I installed ahead of time was defective. AVR started acting up at the same time, so was not sure what the problem was and took me a day to determine. A hard reset of the AVR solved that problem and new cable arrives today. Have had the projector hear for a week and have not been able to use it.
Bummer!

What brand cable? Was it just a defective sample? Ordering another of the same, or going to a different brand?

First I've personally heard of a fiber optic cable failing the test.

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Bummer!

What brand cable? Was it just a defective sample? Ordering another of the same, or going to a different brand?

First I've personally heard of a fiber optic cable failing the test.
Have read and spoken to several people that have had bad fiber optic HDMI cables. I tried this one, because it looked like it was protected pretty good. Updated fiber with braided jacket.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...0?ie=UTF8&th=1
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Have read and spoken to several people that have had bad fiber optic HDMI cables. I tried this one, because it looked like it was protected pretty good. Updated fiber with braided jacket.
I am sure you have an easy pull or conduit.

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All received my replacement NX9 due to faulty input 1 - got the new one and it seems to function well other than the convergence was noticeably off. See pick. I was able to adjust it with on click on blue and two on red, but I have had a lot of JVC projectors including the NX9 its replacing and never had to use the convergence adjustment. Is this normal to be this far off out of the box even if its adjustable? is this a problem or acceptable tolerance?
Glad to see your new one is a OK.
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I just don't like 3D. I don't watch it at home or at a commercial theater. I've tried watching it a couple of times when someone brings a disc and glasses over. My feeling is " meh ". 4K is where it's at for me. I own zero 3D content and that's they way it's going to stay. I do have quite a few new 4K discs on the radar though.
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I just don't like 3D. I don't watch it at home or at a commercial theater. I've tried watching it a couple of times when someone brings a disc and glasses over. My feeling is " meh ". 4K is where it's at for me. I own zero 3D content and that's they way it's going to stay. I do have quite a few new 4K discs on the radar though.
Right there with ya. I don't begrudge anyone liking it, but the few theatrical outings and experiences with it in other's home theaters left me underwhelmed. Still I'm glad that for those that enjoy it the projector manufacturers keep supporting it.

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I just don't like 3D. I don't watch it at home or at a commercial theater. I've tried watching it a couple of times when someone brings a disc and glasses over. My feeling is " meh ". 4K is where it's at for me. I own zero 3D content and that's they way it's going to stay. I do have quite a few new 4K discs on the radar though.
Like a lot of things in HT I think it’s very much a personal thing. I do find 3D a little bit fake (it’s more like layers of 2D than actual 3D), but I do like the effect sometimes, it does create a little more immersion on occasion. What I don’t like is my eyes feeling like I’ve been awake for three weeks straight, after watching a 3D movie!
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Glad to see your new one is a OK.
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Hi roger these are my settings, the only difference I notice is in the Color Mode - YCbCr (AUTO)...I will try later, every else seems the same.

Colour Mode: YcbCr (4:4:4)

Change this to YcbCr (AUTO) and you will see HDR on Nefflix movies. I tried your setting and did not get HDR. You need the auto setting. It will work.

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Let's concentrte on the Netflix APP built into the UB9000 under main menu " NETWORK SERVICE" . Now go to SETUP on your UB9000. The following is my settings.

PLAYER SETTINGS

Resolution - AUTO
4k/60 Output - 4k/60p 4-4-4
24p Output - AUTO
HDMI (Video) Output Mode - AUTO
HDR10+ Setting - ON

ADVANCED SETTINGS

Color Mode - YCbCr (AUTO)
Deep Color Output - AUTO (12 bit priority)
25p/50p Output - OFF

My setup is NX9 fed by the UB9000 via Marantz 8805 Pre-Pro
Hi Roger, you are the man!!! The problem was the color mode that needed to be set in AUTO....thanks !!!
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Mount?

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My RS2000 arrives Monday but looking to see what mount/plates i should get? I will be dropping the projector down with an extension pole.

Eventually I will add a Panamorph DCR if that is a factor as well.

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Originally Posted by colleycol View Post
My RS2000 arrives Monday but looking to see what mount/plates i should get? I will be dropping the projector down with an extension pole.
Eventually I will add a Panamorph DCR if that is a factor as well.
The Chief RPM(A/B/C)-281 (RPM Elite mount with the SLM281 bracket) is usually recommended, and is what I use with the RS3000. The DCR then comes with its own XM2 mount that connects directly to mounting holes on the projector itself.

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Well at 82 hours, my NX7 just did the blue vertical line error. Haven't had an issue at all with the projector until now. A reboot fixed it, but thought I escaped it. Looks like it's time to upgrade to 2.07. was on 2.04, that's what came with mine fyi.
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