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post #13861 of 13940 Old 07-12-2019, 11:14 AM
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You don't see it most of the time, but it can be notable in some extended dark periods. It would be better if they had real 16x9 panels for cinema projectors. In my own opinion for these HT units it would probably be better if they masked the panel, it serves no useful purpose with consumer sources.

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The extra light for those of us not using a TV AR screen is nice.
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The extra light for those of us not using a TV AR screen is nice.
With a DCR lens the extra light is great. No complaints here.
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Appreciate your correction, however I still wish JVC would fix the yellowing issue when the DI function is engaged. Otherwise the DI feature is still flawed and many owners have stated that they are not using the DI because it introduces yellowing into the picture which negates the use of this feature.
I don't see it any more on my RS3000, than I did on my RS600 and RS640. In other words, almost never.
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You missed a point in the conversation. The discussion is around lens memory/installation modes with zoom while using a CIH setup, not an A lens. With an A lens you would not use zoom as you are filling the height of the panel and would crop information.


Ahhhhhhhhh. I’m a moron. You’re right. I missed that part. Sorry fellas!
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Supply has not caught up in France yet? When did you order?
Actually It is not quite a new order, I exchange my new x7900 (+ some money !) with a friend's N7 almost new too ( 10 hours on the clock and manuf date May) as he changed his mind for personal reasons, the only problem is that we do not live next to each other and do not want to send our projectors, so we agreed to meet somewhere in between, and it should happen next tuesday, but making the calendar arrangements was not easy in this summer vacation period, we both live in the sunny but very hot South of France next to the Mediterranean coast.
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Ahhhhhhhhh. I’m a moron. You’re right. I missed that part. Sorry fellas!
All good. This thread still moves at a good clip and it's easy to miss something here and there.

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Hey guys, if it helps anyone, I created an online pronto code generator so you can plug in your JVC hex code and get a pronto code out of it for your IR automation.

https://www.convertthisfile.com/tool...code-generator

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It's basically a front end to makehex.
Following up here:

Here's what I've discovered, using the code for Lens Memory 1 as an example:

Here is the code that I copied directly out of the Control4 Interface, for Lens Memory 1, which I have confirmed works properly:

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0000 006c 0000 0023 013f 00a0 0014 003c 0014 003b 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 0014 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 02e1 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 0014 0014 003c 0014 003c 0014 02e1
Here is the code for that same Lens Memory 1, which is the same for both markmon1's generator, and the JVC PDF which has been mentioned:

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0000 006D 0001 0011 0141 00A0 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 0014 0014 003C 0014 003C 0014 02E6
The code that is working obviously has many more numbers in it (74 groups of 4, vs 40 groups of 4, if I counted right).

This suggests some type of format difference? If so, how does one translate from one to the other? Anything else that would account for this difference?

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I'm glad to say that my RS3000 has been producing great video with no projector artifacts for over 100 hours now. My setup is UB820 > Denon X7200WA > RS3000. I've also successfully tried my Roku 4 and my Home Theater PC. Next will be calibration after a few more hours of operation.
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The extra light for those of us not using a TV AR screen is nice.
I think it is a false argument though, there isn't any extra light. If those areas of the panel were masked, you could use a different lens arrangement within the optical block to tighten the focus of the available light within the used panel area.

The NX5 vs DLA-X5900 is a good example. Everyone who isn't using something like a DCR lens, or scaling digitally to fill the panel width, is getting less light on the NX5 vs X5900.

Same for the NX7 vs DLA-X7900.

The only projector that has an output benefit over the previous range is the NX9, and it isn't because of the 17:9 panels, it is because of the 100mm lens.
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I think it is a false argument though, there isn't any extra light. If those areas of the panel were masked, you could use a different lens arrangement within the optical block to tighten the focus of the available light within the used panel area.



The NX5 vs DLA-X5900 is a good example. Everyone who isn't using something like a DCR lens, or scaling digitally to fill the panel width, is getting less light on the NX5 vs X5900.



Same for the NX7 vs DLA-X7900.



The only projector that has an output benefit over the previous range is the NX9, and it isn't because of the 17:9 panels, it is because of the 100mm lens.


But the projector can’t adjust its optical block, so in reality for us it is more light.

And for people like me who are limited by throw distance it also allows a larger sceen.


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It is a digital mask and not a physical light blocking "internal" mask. The mask areas are bright enough to light up quite a lot of things - like the dark AT masks on something like my Screen Research electric masking screen.

You don't see it most of the time, but it can be notable in some extended dark periods. It would be better if they had real 16x9 panels for cinema projectors. In my own opinion for these HT units it would probably be better if they masked the panel, it serves no useful purpose with consumer sources.

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For economic reasons, the panels are 17:9. If JVC and Sony made 16:9 panels the cost would go up considerably, because they would have tooling and manufacturing for 17:9 and 16:9, because they have to make 17:9 for the commercial side.
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For economic reasons, the panels are 17:9. If JVC and Sony made 16:9 panels the cost would go up considerably, because they would have tooling and manufacturing for 17:9 and 16:9, because they have to make 17:9 for the commercial side.
So 17:9 is good option if you have space for it ? I am deciding between screen and not sure which way to go. I am thinking 16:9 and then have a manual panel masking for scope screen, that way I will be covered in both ways.

Also should I target 30FL's for my screen ? that way I can decide the size ?
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For economic reasons, the panels are 17:9. If JVC and Sony made 16:9 panels the cost would go up considerably, because they would have tooling and manufacturing for 17:9 and 16:9, because they have to make 17:9 for the commercial side.
I realise that, although it isn't clear that there are any commercial D-cinema projectors using this size 17:9 D-ILA chips (are you aware of any?). Or are you just talking about folk using the NX9 in pro applications like in screening rooms for D-Cinema screenings?

In any case, I'm not talking about new panels. I'm talking about masking the panel areas that aren't required, and changing the focus of the light engine. That they haven't done it I guess either means it isn't that simple, or they don't see a benefit that enough folk would appreciate to justify the costs.

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But the projector can’t adjust its optical block, so in reality for us it is more light.

And for people like me who are limited by throw distance it also allows a larger sceen.
No it doesn't. Throw on the new series is the same as previous if you are using whole panel width for a scope screen, worse if you are using the 16:9 portion. You only get better throw for both on the the NX9, and that is only because of the new 100mm lens, not because of the 17:9 panel.
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All good. This thread still moves at a good clip and it's easy to miss something here and there.


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Here’s something that rarely gets mentioned...

Ive been into HT pj’s for 20 years...it’s started with a Toshiba 720p pj in 2001 to an Epson 1080ub to an Epson 5030 to a JVC x500 to a JVC x750 to a JVC x950 to a Sony 85”900F and now a JVC N7...

I’m a little technical but not like some of you...I have to say I could not have done any of this without the folks on these boards!! I’ve asked lots of stooooopid questions and have always been answered promptly...

We have lotsa personalities on these boards and we don’t always agree but we welcome all opinions...

Sooooooooooo kudos to all of you and AVSForum...answers are always timely and prompt...it’s a HUGE resource to all of us that I couldn’t begin to put a price on...

Thanks to all...it’s a phenomenal community!!!!
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Actually It is not quite a new order, I exchange my new x7900 (+ some money !) with a friend's N7 almost new too ( 10 hours on the clock and manuf date May) as he changed his mind for personal reasons, the only problem is that we do not live next to each other and do not want to send our projectors, so we agreed to meet somewhere in between, and it should happen next tuesday, but making the calendar arrangements was not easy in this summer vacation period, we both live in the sunny but very hot South of France next to the Mediterranean coast.
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Many owners are quite happy with their NXx/RSx000 while utilizing DI. You exhibit a significant amount of angst with DI in this product series, are you considering other JVC series or manufactures? It’d be great to see you find a setup that works for you.
I didn't know Jmouse007 actually bought a JVC. I think he gets some sort of perverse satisfaction by coming into this thread to criticize JVC whenever he feels it is warranted (which is apparently often).
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I didn't know Jmouse007 actually bought a JVC. I think he gets some sort of perverse satisfaction by coming into this thread to criticize JVC whenever he feels it is warranted (which is apparently often).
He needs to buy an RS4500 then. Over 1400 hours and no problems. Then he could own JVC that's " whine free ". Although he could complain about the cost till the cows come home.
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I didn't know Jmouse007 actually bought a JVC. I think he gets some sort of perverse satisfaction by coming into this thread to criticize JVC whenever he feels it is warranted (which is apparently often).
But does he really own one?
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The only times the panel is in 4096x2160 mode (outside the settings focus screen patterns) is when either you have enabled zoom in the projector or you are sending a 4096x2160 resolution image to the projector.

If you send it 1920x1080, 1280x720, or 3840x2160 by default it will mask the sides internally and you cant even tell it's not just a 16x9 projector. This is also how I run mine on my 16x9 screen and forget that it's even a 17x9 projector at all.
What those folks with the NX9 need (or even you with your beastly 4500) is an ISCO 1.25 and a cineslide.
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You should test with an 18 Gbps signal from the UB820.

- In the UB820 HDMI settings change the 4K60 setting to 4:4:4 instead of 4:2:0. Just attempting to do so will have the UB820 test 4K60 4:4:4 output to the projector.

- Then, if you have a Netflix 4K plan see if you get 4K60 4:2:2 HDR from Netflix HDR titles.
- Or if you have the Billy Lynn UHD disc that is encoded at 4K60, try it. (It's a horrible movie but is a great source for testing your HDMI cables, especially if you can watch it all the way to the end without any HDMI video drop outs.)
Thanks Claw, I can only do the 1st test as I don’t have Netflix or Billy Lynn...with 4k60 on the Panny set to 4:4:4 and 24p output set to auto here is what I get from the Panny when I press playback info...on the third line where it says HDMI video it says 4K/24p HD(PQ)/BT2020 YCbCr4:4:4/12 bit

Does that prove anything?

Edit: ok I turned 24 p off and the 3rd line now says 4K/60p blah blah blah 4:2:2/12 bit

Me thinks this doesn’t support what we want it to support? Am I correct or is there another setting on the Panny or Pj or AVR I need to play with?

Thanks

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Thanks Claw, I can only do the 1st test as I don’t have Netflix or Billy Lynn...with 4k60 on the Panny set to 4:4:4 and 24p output set to auto here is what I get from the Panny when I press playback info...on the third line where it says HDMI video it says 4K/24p HD(PQ)/BT2020 YCbCr4:4:4/12 bit

Does that prove anything?

Edit: ok I turned 24 p off and the 3rd line now says 4K/60p blah blah blah 4:2:2/12 bit

Me thinks this doesn’t support what we want it to support? Am I correct or is there another setting on the Panny or Pj or AVR I need to play with?

Thanks

Edit 2 can’t get the fecking pic to display properly using iPad
I turned 24 p off and the 3rd line now says 4K/60p blah blah blah 4:2:2/12 bit

4K60 4:2:2 12-bit is a 17.8 Gbps signal so if you are getting a picture your cable should be good.
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I turned 24 p off and the 3rd line now says 4K/60p blah blah blah 4:2:2/12 bit

4K60 4:2:2 12-bit is a 17.8 Gbps signal so if you are getting a picture your cable should be good.
Thanks, I always assumed that we should run with 24p on for uhd blu Ray...is that correct?

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Having been very badly burned by SONY Corp with a previous high-end projector, I had been seriously considering purchasing the NX7 months before its release. I already have the necessary funds, and had every intention on doing so.

That all changed after the mysterious, never explained, entire NX series line shut down/production delay, coupled with the ongoing litany of seeming never-ending "issues", problems, "damaged in shipping", yellowing, vertical lines, DI clicking, clunking, overly loud fan noise in high lamp mode, real world performance native contrast specs that don't come anywhere near JVC's advertised specs... etc cropping up.

Frankly, ON PAPER the JVC NX7, or NX9 would have been everything I need and could have hoped for (except for the very lackluster native contrast specs compared to the previous generation of e-shift projectors, which blow this generation away).

However, thus far this FIRST GENERATION of JVC NX Series 4K lamp based projectors hasn't, according to owners and reviewers (Arrow A/V, for one) consistently performed reliably, or anywhere near JVC's advertised performance specs. There have been too many ongoing "issues" being reported by owners and respected reviewers alike to instill confidence.

And until JVC gets its collective act together and verifiably solves and FIXES these defects there is no point in my, or anyone else with common sense paying $8,000 to $18,000 cash (in my case) for a projector that has unfixed, malfunctioning yellowing DI "issues" right out of the box, along with a potential myriad of other problems that have been manifesting out of the blue, with use, over time.

Believe me, if the NX7 performed AS ADVERTISED, and didn't exhibit these ongoing issues, I would have ordered one months ago, and still could. But the ongoing reported "issues" from owners does not instill any confidence whatsoever.

As an informed consumer, with literally decades of A/V equipment experience, I refuse to play the fool, or to any longer serve as an unpaid, "early adopter", "real world" beata tester, guinea pig at my own expense to the tune of thousands and tens of thousands of dollars for any multi-billion dollar A/V company, including JVC.

I will wait until JVC learns all of the "real world", "in the wild lessons" gleaned from all of these "issues", problems, lower than advertised performance specs, being reported by early adopters and FIXES THEM in the next generation release or two.

When JVC proves they have permanently fixed the myriad of "issues" being experienced and reported by owners, when they have EARNED back my trust as a consumer, then I will gladly lay down the $8,000 to $18,000 of my hard earned money to purchase an NX7 or NX9.

It just seems like this whole mess could have been avoided if JVC had spent more time in R&D, and in TESTING BEFORE RELEASE.

Given the "problems", the NX launch/rollout unfortunately feels like it was rushed.
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Thanks, I always assumed that we should run with 24p on for uhd blu Ray...is that correct?


I watch movies - BR and UHD BR @ 24p myself.


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Ive been into HT pj’s for 20 years...it’s started with a Toshiba 720p pj in 2001 to an Epson 1080ub to an Epson 5030 to a JVC x500 to a JVC x750 to a JVC x950 to a Sony 85”900F and now a JVC N7...
Only 20 years????? I'm not sure how many here are old enough to remember my 1st front PJ, the 75 pounds "PORTABLE" 3 gun CRT, 4:3 aspect ratio, 350/400i resolution, Kloss Novabeam Model 2 with a reported output of 150 lumens (based on the earlier Advent model) which I purchased in early 1981. In order to view the image you tilted a mirror up (about 45 degrees) which reflected the upwards pointing RGB cathode ray tubes onto the 4'x 3' screen which was located about 4-5 feet away from the PJ. I can still remember constructing a rolling cart stand to wheel it into a closet when not in use. We've all come a long way, baby.

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It uses all available pixels so a bit of increased brightness or for someone like me teetering on the edge of throw distance it allows me to actually fill my 2.35 screen by using the bit of extra area.
I'm not sure how much difference it makes in brightness. For one thing, the brightness at the edge of the screen is lower than at the middle. For the other, if you're zooming out I think you lose a little lumens as your max lumens are on max zoom. So it possibly gets close to a wash either way.

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Having been very badly burned by SONY Corp with a previous high-end projector, I had been seriously considering purchasing the NX7 months before its release. I already have the necessary funds, and had every intention on doing so.

That all changed after the mysterious, never explained, entire NX series line shut down/production delay, coupled with the ongoing litany of seeming never-ending "issues", problems, "damaged in shipping", yellowing, vertical lines, DI clicking, clunking, overly loud fan noise in high lamp mode, real world performance native contrast specs that don't come anywhere near JVC's advertised specs... etc cropping up.

Frankly, ON PAPER the JVC NX7, or NX9 would have been everything I need and could have hoped for (except for the very lackluster native contrast specs compared to the previous generation of e-shift projectors, which blow this generation away).

However, thus far this FIRST GENERATION of JVC NX Series 4K lamp based projectors hasn't, according to owners and reviewers (Arrow A/V, for one) consistently performed reliably, or anywhere near JVC's advertised performance specs. There have been too many ongoing "issues" being reported by owners and respected reviewers alike to instill confidence.

And until JVC gets its collective act together and verifiably solves and FIXES these defects there is no point in my, or anyone else with common sense paying $8,000 to $18,000 cash (in my case) for a projector that has unfixed, malfunctioning yellowing DI "issues" right out of the box, along with a potential myriad of other problems that have been manifesting out of the blue, with use, over time.

Believe me, if the NX7 performed AS ADVERTISED, and didn't exhibit these ongoing issues, I would have ordered one months ago, and still could. But the ongoing reported "issues" from owners does not instill any confidence whatsoever.

As an informed consumer, with literally decades of A/V equipment experience, I refuse to play the fool, or to any longer serve as an unpaid, "early adopter", "real world" beata tester, guinea pig at my own expense to the tune of thousands and tens of thousands of dollars for any multi-billion dollar A/V company, including JVC.

I will wait until JVC learns all of the "real world", "in the wild lessons" gleaned from all of these "issues", problems, lower than advertised performance specs, being reported by early adopters and FIXES THEM in the next generation release or two.

When JVC proves they have permanently fixed the myriad of "issues" being experienced and reported by owners, when they have EARNED back my trust as a consumer, then I will gladly lay down the $8,000 to $18,000 of my hard earned money to purchase an NX7 or NX9.

It just seems like this whole mess could have been avoided if JVC had spent more time in R&D, and in TESTING BEFORE RELEASE.

Given the "problems", the NX launch/rollout unfortunately feels like it was rushed.

Maybe you should go look at one, because I don't think anybody would pick an RS540/640 over an RS2000. And it is no contest between an RS540/640 and the RS3000. You are welcome to wait all you want, but it seems like you are trying very hard to get others to do so also. Meanwhile I will be enjoying my RS3000. I have not even turned my RS640 on, other than to set it up in its new location, once the RS3000 arrived.

Funny story. I happened to think, I had not checked out 8K E-shift on my projector. I kind of forgot all about it. So I go to turn it on and discovered it was already on. That was a surprise, since I did not hear any E-shift noise. Toggling it off and on, I thought I saw a slight improvement with it on, so left it that way.
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... there is no point in my, or anyone else with common sense paying $8,000 to $18,000 cash (in my case) for a projector...
Ok, so you’re not here to make friends. And why the emphasis on having the cash? It’s admirable, but hardly a differentiator.

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...I refuse to play the fool...
I’m thinking something that I think I shouldn’t say.

But, as a matter of observing human behavior, I’m still mildly intrigued with deciphering the genesis of your extensive animosity toward JVC.
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Thanks, I always assumed that we should run with 24p on for uhd blu Ray...is that correct?
Of course, unless it's one of the few 4K60 UHD discs. I only suggested this to test the capabilities of your new HDMI cable. Better to know sooner than later if your cable is good for whatever you might throw at it.
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