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post #13981 of 18057 Old 07-17-2019, 03:42 PM
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If you find someone in Canada that just sells the plate, please let me know...
I was going to order the plate from Peerless website as I couldn't find anyone with it in stock. However since they don't ship internationally I ordered the PRG-JVC-DLA kit from B&H Photo Video which comes with the PRG-UNV and JVC Plate for the same price

Also note the kit didn't come with the 2 #10-32 x 3/4" screws required to screw the plate to the connection block that slides into the UNV mount, it maybe an oversight. But I reused the ones from my previous kit.
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same... just got some 25mm screws from the hard ware store, same length as the screwed feet jvc come with
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same... just got some 25mm screws from the hard ware store, same length as the screwed feet jvc come with
Interesting, my Chief JVC mounting plate came with an additional small bag with four 3/4" long mounting screws in addition to the shorter screws.
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will the 115" wide AT screen (soundmax 4K, 1.1 gain) be bright enough for NX5 ? in light controlled with dark walls and not bat cave ?
How about sitting 18 feet away on a 150 inch diagonal screen. There are at least three settings I can use to boost brightness I am in a semi light controlled room and have zero issues watching mostly Sports off an android box

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Just to reiterate what others have said about mounting a peerless. I to agreed the screws that came with it seem a little short but I used them anyways 300 hours and three months no issues. When I picked it up off the floor I gave it a bit of a wiggle and it seemed to hold strong . Used on a 18 ft ladder and it slides in and was easy to mount. The adjusting screws on the side seems stiff when it's on the floor but hanging in the air they work fine
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Thanks man, I turned off Bravia sync on the Sony which is their CEC...all CEC already disabled on 1120...same result, unfortunately...

Does CEC need to be turned off on the pj side or is there even a CEC setting on the N7?
The problem is that the HDMI EDID is still broadcast when the projector is in standby. If the two devices have identical video parameters then it's not such a problem but if one has different capabilities, you can have issues.

One option I've used in the past is putting the displays on a wifi controlled smart plugs and toggled the plugs off when switching devices. This is equivalent to unplugging the device from the wall, which will stop its EDID transmission.

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The problem is that the HDMI EDID is still broadcast when the projector is in standby. If the two devices have identical video parameters then it's not such a problem but if one has different capabilities, you can have issues.

One option I've used in the past is putting the displays on a wifi controlled smart plugs and toggled the plugs off when switching devices. This is equivalent to unplugging the device from the wall, which will stop its EDID transmission.
Thanks man...So is the issue that when the pj is in standby, it can’t recognize the Edid coming in over HDMI and if it can’t recognize the edid, no video is broadcast via the other monitor out to the tv?

I have the pj hardwired to a wall switch...I turned the switch off last night, thereby killing standby, and the tv came on, but it was fairly inconsistent, sometimes I got video to tv with the switch off, sometimes not...when the switch is off (ie no power) should the tv work consistently via the other monitor out or could it be an issue with the the 4K settop tv box connected to the avr with passthru to tv?

Both the tv (2018 Sony 900F) and the N7 have very similar capabilities...also would it have anything to do with the active fibre cable going from monitor out to pj?

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Well.....I'm posting this inquiry on this Thread because the need for dependable 4K Certified HDMI on the newer JVCs also applies for the older models as well.


Up to this point, except for using a Integra DRC-R1.1's built-in Balen and separate Receiver for a NX9 install, all the installs I've done had 25' or less HDMI runs, so sourcing an affordable Certified Cord was no issue.


In my current case, I have a 82 yr old HT owner who has a x750r that refuses to Handshake over a 35' high quality (but not Certified) HDMI. The UHD Player employed is a Sony UBD-X800. Tried going direct and bypassing the ONKYO TX-RZ830 Receiver....no joy to be had there. Turned off HDR on the Sony....still nothing. A older Samsung UBD-K8500 worked until the Receiver was upgraded, so perhaps it is a Pass-Through issue. The Receiver is accepting the Audio Codex.....so I'm certain it is a Video handshake issue.



I've made note on this thread that a few have stated they found 30-35'ers that worked for them....non Fiber Optic. Considering that this fellow might upgrade to a NX5 before he passes on (I say that with affection....) so I do want to give him a fully workable solution, but obviously there is the costs involved in making what he has now workable.


So if one of the successful 30'-35' HDMI adopters could relate the Brand / source of such, either that or a FO-Hybrid Cable that is affordable, that would be of a tremendous help....please.

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Thanks man...So is the issue that when the pj is in standby, it can’t recognize the Edid coming in over HDMI and if it can’t recognize the edid, no video is broadcast via the other monitor out to the tv?

I have the pj hardwired to a wall switch...I turned the switch off last night, thereby killing standby, and the tv came on, but it was fairly inconsistent, sometimes I got video to tv with the switch off, sometimes not...
No it's more that the Anthem just sends one signal. The two HDMI outputs are tied together. So the linked HDMI signal needs to be such that both devices are satisfied, but this may not always be possible. It can end up with one device working the other not. Yea, you may need to power off the switch on the wall for the JVC then power on the TV, then power cycle the anthem.


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when the switch is off (ie no power) should the tv work consistently via the other monitor out or could it be an issue with the the 4K settop tv box connected to the avr with passthru to tv?

Both the tv (2018 Sony 900F) and the N7 have very similar capabilities...also would it have anything to do with the active fibre cable going from monitor out to pj?
Ya it could be cable issues and issues with source devices also for sure. Your best bet is trying to isolate things.

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Well.....I'm posting this inquiry on this Thread because the need for dependable 4K Certified HDMI on the newer JVCs also applies for the older models as well.


Up to this point, except for using a Integra DRC-R1.1's built-in Balen and separate Receiver for a NX9 install, all the installs I've done had 25' or less HDMI runs, so sourcing an affordable Certified Cord was no issue.


In my current case, I have a 82 yr old HT owner who has a x750r that refuses to Handshake over a 35' high quality (but not Certified) HDMI. The UHD Player employed is a Sony UBD-X800. Tried going direct and bypassing the ONKYO TX-RZ830 Receiver....no joy to be had there. Turned off HDR on the Sony....still nothing. A older Samsung UBD-K8500 worked until the Receiver was upgraded, so perhaps it is a Pass-Through issue. The Receiver is accepting the Audio Codex.....so I'm certain it is a Video handshake issue.



I've made note on this thread that a few have stated they found 30-35'ers that worked for them....non Fiber Optic. Considering that this fellow might upgrade to a NX5 before he passes on (I say that with affection....) so I do want to give him a fully workable solution, but obviously there is the costs involved in making what he has now workable.


So if one of the successful 30'-35' HDMI adopters could relate the Brand / source of such, either that or a FO-Hybrid Cable that is affordable, that would be of a tremendous help....please.
The problem is the Onkyo. According to Onkyo, they do not recommend using an HDMI cable longer than 12'. I have tried multiple HDMI cables, including Ruprio. Your best bet is to go to HD Base T.
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No it's more that the Anthem just sends one signal. The two HDMI outputs are tied together. So the linked HDMI signal needs to be such that both devices are satisfied, but this may not always be possible. It can end up with one device working the other not. Yea, you may need to power off the switch on the wall for the JVC then power on the TV, then power cycle the anthem.



Ya it could be cable issues and issues with source devices also for sure. Your best bet is trying to isolate things.
Thanks, I wonder if an hdfury device (Integral or Linker or...) would help with EDID resolution...

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The problem is that the HDMI EDID is still broadcast when the projector is in standby. If the two devices have identical video parameters then it's not such a problem but if one has different capabilities, you can have issues.

One option I've used in the past is putting the displays on a wifi controlled smart plugs and toggled the plugs off when switching devices. This is equivalent to unplugging the device from the wall, which will stop its EDID transmission.
it must be an anthem thing then because with my marantz av8802a and 10 year old pioneer kuro (1080p) and jvc (4k hdmi 2.0 hdcp2.2) with the marantz output on the auto setting... ie both hdmi out active.... as long as pioneer kuro is in standby I will get 4k on the jvc. if jvc is on stand by i will get 1080p at the kuro(all it can do). if have both displays going I will naturally get 1080p on both
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it must be an anthem thing then because with my marantz av8802a and 10 year old pioneer kuro (1080p) and jvc (4k hdmi 2.0 hdcp2.2) with the marantz output on the auto setting... ie both hdmi out active.... as long as pioneer kuro is in standby I will get 4k on the jvc. if jvc is on stand by i will get 1080p at the kuro(all it can do). if have both displays going I will naturally get 1080p on both
Good to know, thanks

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May I share one observation that I have noticed with the operation of the iris/aperture. When projector is firing up from standby, the aperture closes nearly all the way with only a tiny round opening (c2mm) left open. This is until the D-ILA logo appears on screen during which the aperture opens to about 75mm. It stays that way even with no source inputting the projector. This leaves unnecessary stray light on the screen during a fade to black scene or instances like example between trailers or logos. Whilst I am not expecting that aperture closes 100 per cent, I think that in this condition it is not working properly. Even tried reducing aperture to -15 in manual mode, and revert back to auto, did not reduce the size of the aperture further. Any thoughts about this will be appreciated.
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Also please note that at the minimum state of the aperture, c75mm, the shape is squarish not as may be expected, a circle. Aperture has a round shape when fully opened or as described before, when firing up from standby. Projector is N7/RS2000, firmware 2.07

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The problem is that the HDMI EDID is still broadcast when the projector is in standby. If the two devices have identical video parameters then it's not such a problem but if one has different capabilities, you can have issues.



One option I've used in the past is putting the displays on a wifi controlled smart plugs and toggled the plugs off when switching devices. This is equivalent to unplugging the device from the wall, which will stop its EDID transmission.


Same solution as me...using WiFi based smart plugs with Google Assistant or Alexa. Turn on/off when desired. This is the best solution for me at this point.



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Hi guys,

Quick question—- I have a 1080p plasma tv and my 4K jvc projector being fed from different sources through an anthem 1120 receiver. After watching a movie on the projector and then powering down after I’m done, when I switch to watching plasma tv from my cable box the tv will not accept signal (just get blank blue screen). If I unplug the projector and pull out and reattach hdmi cable from tv box to receiver I get the picture on the plasma. All CEC turned off on all components except for some reason forgot to turn it off on plasma tv. CEC on plasma tv now off but haven’t had chance to test. Any ideas why this might be happening—-I’m new with all this stuff so I need explanations in simple language. Thanks!

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Hi guys,

Quick question—- I have a 1080p plasma tv and my 4K jvc projector being fed from different sources through an anthem 1120 receiver. After watching a movie on the projector and then powering down after I’m done, when I switch to watching plasma tv from my cable box the tv will not accept signal (just get blank blue screen). If I unplug the projector and pull out and reattach hdmi cable from tv box to receiver I get the picture on the plasma. All CEC turned off on all components except for some reason forgot to turn it off on plasma tv. CEC on plasma tv now off but haven’t had chance to test. Any ideas why this might be happening—-I’m new with all this stuff so I need explanations in simple language. Thanks!

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Exact same issue I’m having with Anthem 1120, tv, and pj...a bunch of plug and unplug

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Still getting to grips with the N7 menu as I am a JVC newbie. Trying to understand lens memory as its quite a bit different from Sony. While I can select the 'installation mode' and assign it an appropriate name, I don't see any specific option to 'Save'. Do I select a Mode, make the lens adjustments required, and this is all saved when I name the mode? If so, and I make an additional adjustment/tweak, how do I save again?

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Exact same issue I’m having with Anthem 1120, tv, and pj...a bunch of plug and unplug


As pointed out in the Anthem owner thread, there is a cheap HDMI switch that will put out 4K on one output and 1080p on the other, doing away with this problem.


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Still getting to grips with the N7 menu as I am a JVC newbie. Trying to understand lens memory as its quite a bit different from Sony. While I can select the 'installation mode' and assign it an appropriate name, I don't see any specific option to 'Save'. Do I select a Mode, make the lens adjustments required, and this is all saved when I name the mode? If so, and I make an additional adjustment/tweak, how do I save again?


When you make adjustments to a lens memory, it’s automatically saved. Threw me off the first time too.


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Any insider hints on when the next firmware release is? My projector came with 2.06 and works fine, so I figured I would wait for the next update to release before making any firmware changes. However, there are definitely a few things left to fix with these projectors.
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Thanks man, I turned off Bravia sync on the Sony which is their CEC...all CEC already disabled on 1120...same result, unfortunately...

Does CEC need to be turned off on the pj side or is there even a CEC setting on the N7?
Same thing happen to me with pre Marantz 8805 N9 and LG Oled tv. The only workaround i've found is to temporarily unplug the hdmi from the Mrantz (vpr or tv depending on where is the issue).
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So my NX7 just arrived. My screen has not been set-up, as the plan is to install the projector first and project at max zoom to work out the largest scope screen I can accommodate. Everything working ok so far, even though I am projecting onto my speakers – this will be an AT screen.

Initially, the max zoom was smaller than I expected. Switched from Auto to Zoom mode to engage the full 17:9 panel, and got a nice big 140” wide scope image.

Played a demo disc on the Panasonic 820 for a few minutes. So far so good. Looking forward to having the screen installed and projecting on a proper screen.

I am stepping up from a 54” plasma in my living room to a dedicated “batcave” HT so really looking forward to this. This thread has been a really useful source of information, and am glad to say I can now officially post here as an owner.
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Same thing happen to me with pre Marantz 8805 N9 and LG Oled tv. The only workaround i've found is to temporarily unplug the hdmi from the Mrantz (vpr or tv depending on where is the issue).
Even if cycling the HDMI OUT button on the 8805 itself ?
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Same thing happen to me with pre Marantz 8805 N9 and LG Oled tv. The only workaround i've found is to temporarily unplug the hdmi from the Mrantz (vpr or tv depending on where is the issue).
I would suggest something askew with the hdcp on the LG oled in that case ? as I woudl expect the 8805 to be identical in working as the av8802a. have you for sure switched off hdmi CEC control ?

ps by the way be wary of unplugging plugging hdmi while powered. hot swapping hdmi is not recommenced its far too easy to blow a hdmi board doing this. be very careful as will be an expensive fix and a nuisance ot have to ship in and back to get fixed.
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Even if cycling the HDMI OUT button on the 8805 itself ?
if cycling;ling the hdd out it should work exactly same as on the av8802a.... ie synchs to one or other depending on output selected and if both it will provide lowest common denominator.

ps one caveat in this is source is programmed adequately for HDCP. I know the oppo 203 for instance when it was first released ... it was screwed in this regard. and it took an update to fix. this got screwed up again in a subsequent update and they fixed it again thankfully.....the pana players have been solid in this regard always ... ie the 900 and 9000 players i have owned. the oppo 205 from day one was perfect.

with hdcp the entire signal path has to work and without issue ie source, AVR/processor to display. any buggy hdcp programming and will fall over.

i have one device with failed hdcp programming. and it is well known for this for that I use a cheap hdmi switcher... these can be bought from eBay cheaply and all inadvertently strip hdcp and you use them in the path with these problematic devices...

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As pointed out in the Anthem owner thread, there is a cheap HDMI switch that will put out 4K on one output and 1080p on the other, doing away with this problem.


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Thanks, my TV is 4K...is there a switch that can handle dual 4K out?

Edit: what I may end up doing is just bypassing the Anthem for tv...I don’t need HT sound for casual tv (just connect TV set top directly to tv) watching and use the single Monitor out for the pj (critical movie watching)

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