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Could someone buy (2) RS2000 and stack them for increased light output & greater HDR impact? Is it possible to align them 100%?

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Could someone buy (2) RS2000 and stack them for increased light output & greater HDR impact? Is it possible to align them 100%?


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Doesn't it lose 40% light in BT.2020 mode with laser on high? Also this projector is double the cost of my proposition.

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I was curious if anyone had a link they could send me in regards to figuring out how much vertical lens shift is needed for my setup.

Right now I am looking at jumping into the RS2000, currently have a RS500 and want to see if I will have to lower my projector at all. Or if I can simply swap the two out and not make any adjustments to the mount.

Seems like some folks are having to do this and others haven't.
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I was curious if anyone had a link they could send me in regards to figuring out how much vertical lens shift is needed for my setup.

Right now I am looking at jumping into the RS2000, currently have a RS500 and want to see if I will have to lower my projector at all. Or if I can simply swap the two out and not make any adjustments to the mount.

Seems like some folks are having to do this and others haven't.
Where is the info?

Screen size?
Ceiling height where projector is mounted?
Vertical distance from ceiling (where projector is mounted) to top of image?
Throw distance?
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I was curious if anyone had a link they could send me in regards to figuring out how much vertical lens shift is needed for my setup.

Right now I am looking at jumping into the RS2000, currently have a RS500 and want to see if I will have to lower my projector at all. Or if I can simply swap the two out and not make any adjustments to the mount.

Seems like some folks are having to do this and others haven't.
Try this Sir...according to this, I end up with a different vertical lens shift than my rs600...

http://www.reviewtranslations.com/pr...ulator_en.html

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Where is the info?

Screen size?
Ceiling height where projector is mounted?
Vertical distance from ceiling (where projector is mounted) to top of image?
Throw distance?
Sorry. I didn't include that info since I was just looking for a link to the info.

Screen size = 115" wide, 2:35 ratio.
Ceiling Height = 8 feet tall
*Projector is mounted as flush as it can be to the ceiling, 3" to the top of the lens.
Vertical distance = screen is 22" from the ceiling(screen itself, not the frame)
Throw distance = 14.7 feet.

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What's the recommended ceiling (drop ceiling if that matters) mount for the NX5? All the mounts I've seen do like 30lbs max..
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I was curious if anyone had a link they could send me in regards to figuring out how much vertical lens shift is needed for my setup.

Right now I am looking at jumping into the RS2000, currently have a RS500 and want to see if I will have to lower my projector at all. Or if I can simply swap the two out and not make any adjustments to the mount.

Seems like some folks are having to do this and others haven't.
You will definitely be able to make it work, only one way to know for 100% sure is to buy one. If you have to get a shorter or longer pipe it will be worth the effort
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You might be able to build a box and never buy a mount ever again. <<< Click Here >>> to be linked to pics and details.....

You will definitely be able to make it work, only one way to know for 100% sure is to buy one. If you have to get a shorter or longer pipe it will be worth the effort
If I can determine before I order one, then I can plan accordingly and not have to wait until after it gets here.
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I’ve been watching Stranger Things on my NX7.

The picture is often incredible, so many breathtaking/like looking out a window moments. Recommend it.

I read a lot of 4K content isn’t filmed in 4K, but Netflix new stuff is. Maybe that’s the reason.


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Sorry. I didn't include that info since I was just looking for a link to the info.

Screen size = 115" wide, 2:35 ratio.
Ceiling Height = 8 feet tall
*Projector is mounted as flush as it can be to the ceiling, 3" to the top of the lens.
Vertical distance = screen is 22" from the ceiling(screen itself, not the frame)
Throw distance = 14.7 feet.

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Need more info on how your projector is mounted to the ceiling?
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Sorry. I didn't include that info since I was just looking for a link to the info.

Screen size = 115" wide, 2:35 ratio.
Ceiling Height = 8 feet tall
*Projector is mounted as flush as it can be to the ceiling, 3" to the top of the lens.
Vertical distance = screen is 22" from the ceiling(screen itself, not the frame)
Throw distance = 14.7 feet.

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Need more info on how your projector is mounted to the ceiling?
If you remove the feet from the projector and place the projector against the ceiling, then the lens center is 4" from the ceiling. A 45" high image allows 13.5" of vertical lens shift, if no horizontal lens shift is used. That gives you 17.5" max + whatever your mounting system adds. So you will have to add a drop tube. What I do not understand is how your existing setup works. If it is 22" from the ceiling to the image and the lens is only 3" down from the ceiling, then the math says your existing setup will not work, so something is wrong with the info provided.
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If you remove the feet from the projector and place the projector against the ceiling, then the lens center is 4" from the ceiling. A 45" high image allows 13.5" of vertical lens shift, if no horizontal lens shift is used. That gives you 17.5" max + whatever your mounting system adds. So you will have to add a drop tube. What I do not understand is how your existing setup works. If it is 22" from the ceiling to the image and the lens is only 3" down from the ceiling, then the math says your existing setup will not work, so something is wrong with the info provided.
I have attached two pictures of how my projector is mounted.

It looks like the center of the lens is approximately 6" from ceiling.
After remeasuring the screen distance from the ceiling, it looks like the start of the screen material is 21" from the ceiling.

Now, I am not 100% if my current setup is "ideal" but it has looked great to me and Chad has never mentioned that I was at the threshold of the lens shift. Guess maybe I could improve upon my picture if I used less lens shift or had the projector closer to the screen.

Definitely appreciate the input.
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Doesn't it lose 40% light in BT.2020 mode with laser on high? Also this projector is double the cost of my proposition.
Dont use the filter? Looks great without the filter.

It's going to be impossible to align those two projectors at the 4K pixel resolution. I bet the optics move slightly after warming up also.
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I have attached two pictures of how my projector is mounted.

It looks like the center of the lens is approximately 6" from ceiling.
After remeasuring the screen distance from the ceiling, it looks like the start of the screen material is 21" from the ceiling.

Now, I am not 100% if my current setup is "ideal" but it has looked great to me and Chad has never mentioned that I was at the threshold of the lens shift. Guess maybe I could improve upon my picture if I used less lens shift or had the projector closer to the screen.

Definitely appreciate the input.
You either have the projector angled down some your projector has slightly more lens shift than specced. You really should lower the projector a little bit. Per specs, you have a 49" high image (115" wide 2.35) 49" x 0.3 = 14.7". 14.7" + 6" = 20.7" and you said your image is 21" down. I would get a mount and 3" drop tube.
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Wow - that is some hot bass. I had to brace and vibration dampen my shelf prior to the RS4500, to keep things from moving under extreme LFE too. You don't really want the projector moving in relation to the screen during a movie anyway.

Now I can't wait to get my copy of Alita:Battle Angel and see how much LFE it cranks out !
The Alita UHD disc has some weird HDR metadata.

MaxDML (maximum display monitor luminance) is 1000 nits; nothing out of the ordinary there.

But MaxCLL and MaxFall are both 10,000 nits. That is going to give HDR displays fits if they emphasize either value in their tone mapping. Might be why some other threads are reporting disappointment with the HDR.

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The Alita UHD disc has some weird HDR metadata.



MaxDML (maximum display monitor luminance) is 1000 nits; nothing out of the ordinary there.



But MaxCLL and MaxFall are both 10,000 nits. That is going to give HDR displays fits if they emphasize either value in their tone mapping. Might be why some other threads are reporting disappointment with the HDR.


I’ll have the new Lumagen tone mapping firmware installed before I get the disc, so we will see.


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The Alita UHD disc has some weird HDR metadata.

MaxDML (maximum display monitor luminance) is 1000 nits; nothing out of the ordinary there.

But MaxCLL and MaxFall are both 10,000 nits. That is going to give HDR displays fits if they emphasize either value in their tone mapping. Might be why some other threads are reporting disappointment with the HDR.
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The Alita UHD disc has some weird HDR metadata.

MaxDML (maximum display monitor luminance) is 1000 nits; nothing out of the ordinary there.

But MaxCLL and MaxFall are both 10,000 nits. That is going to give HDR displays fits if they emphasize either value in their tone mapping. Might be why some other threads are reporting disappointment with the HDR.
Watched it on my 1000 nit Sony tv last night...definitely some dim scenes where I was questioning how it would look on a pj...

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definitely some dim scenes where I was questioning how it would look on a pj...
Honestly...... it looked just fantastic....
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I have no doubt on a laser and MadVR that it would look fantastic...I have not graduated to that level yet...my comment was more focused on how it would look on my bare bones stock N7...

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I needed a rest api so I could send commands to my n7 from my (javascript) remote control app so I wrote https://github.com/3ll3d00d/pyjvcpj (based on an existing python impl of most of the commands then updated for the specifics of the N5/7/9 range) . If it's useful to anyone then you can get a windows exe from https://github.com/3ll3d00d/pyjvcpj/releases (linux could be built easily enough).

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You either have the projector angled down some your projector has slightly more lens shift than specced. You really should lower the projector a little bit. Per specs, you have a 49" high image (115" wide 2.35) 49" x 0.3 = 14.7". 14.7" + 6" = 20.7" and you said your image is 21" down. I would get a mount and 3" drop tube.
I guess it is possible that the projector is angled down some, didn't think about that.

If the only thing I would need to do is add a 3"-6" pole, then that is much easier than having to remount the projector.

Any suggestions on where to pick up the poles for the Chief mounts?
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I guess it is possible that the projector is angled down some, didn't think about that.



If the only thing I would need to do is add a 3"-6" pole, then that is much easier than having to remount the projector.



Any suggestions on where to pick up the poles for the Chief mounts?


If that’s all you need, just get a 3” or 6” long 1 1/2” pipe nipple from Home Depot for a couple of bucks. Paint it black if you want.


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I guess it is possible that the projector is angled down some, didn't think about that.

If the only thing I would need to do is add a 3"-6" pole, then that is much easier than having to remount the projector.

Any suggestions on where to pick up the poles for the Chief mounts?
Stick a level on your projector and find out, well at least that would give you some type of clue anyway but your projector case may or may not be parallel with the lens assembly. You will not know for sure until you try different things once you get your new projector, we can give an educated guess all day, but you will not know for sure until you mount it.

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Stick a level on your projector and find out, well at least that would give you some type of clue anyway but your projector case may or may not be parallel with the lens assembly. You will not know for sure until you try different things once you get your new projector, we can give an educated guess all day, but you will not know for sure until you mount it.
Especially that there is no flat place where to put a spirit level at least when it is upright on its feet, the top of the PJ is rounded all around.

Suggestion to JVC : why not put some form of electronic horizon relative to the lens asm, would not cost an arm and would be so handy to adjust it, even my Nikon camera has one that I can see thru the view finder, I never have another leaning picture.

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If that’s all you need, just get a 3” or 6” long 1 1/2” pipe nipple from Home Depot for a couple of bucks. Paint it black if you want.


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That is a great idea! I guess what is sold online wouldn't be any different than what you are recommending, assuming they make one that has both sides threaded.

I'll check it out today or tomorrow.

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Finally received my NX7 today, having placed my order in January. Installed on a Chief mount. Firmware v2.08. Built July 2019. Perfect boxing. OOTB no strange colors, perfect pixel alignment cold and hot. Great picture. Another of the lucky ones, I guess.
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I have no doubt on a laser and MadVR that it would look fantastic...I have not graduated to that level yet...my comment was more focused on how it would look on my bare bones stock N7...
Before I went the RS4500 route I would go (which I did) NX7 with a DCR lens and a VERY good screen and Panni 820. All reusable with whatever projector you have and will help all of them.

HDR and all looked great with that on mine. Then I went to MadVR and could not believe what an improvement that was for HDR. More work but honestly after I got it all set up with a HTPC and NAS, I buy the movie rip the movie for MadVR and also have the digital rights for other screens and Apple TV.

I have been thinking about this, where I actually think HTPC's may start coming back in fashion especially with us cord cutters. With Hulu, Disney's new service, HBO on and on the set top DVR may not have all the apps needed to do what you want let alone the video and audio capabilities. It will be interesting.

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That is a great idea! I guess what is sold online wouldn't be any different than what you are recommending, assuming they make one that has both sides threaded.



I'll check it out today or tomorrow.



Thank,


Yes - the pipe nipples are threaded on both ends. I have several here myself.


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